Good news! The Sixers won.

Good news! The Sixers won.
- Doc_Sarcasm

2016 is a weird time to be alive

So obviously the Flyers have to do something about the goaltending and defense.

My radical inner self would like to trade Gostisbehere before his stock plummets any further – perhaps for a goalie or pick(s). I'd definitely think about bringing Morin into the fold for some games.

Cousins is toast IMO. He's just not a NHL-calibre skater.

We all thought VdV was going to be scratched tonight but clearly that wasn't happening. He cost the Flyers a goal on that delay of game. I understand he's a big body who can skate (somewhat) and usually makes the safe play and kills penalties but it's pretty clear he's out of his depth in the NHL.

Shultz also looks pretty cooked IMO. He can block shots and he's a big body to help clear the crease and tie-up along the boards but he really just looks like an old man from an older era with all these youngsters flying by.
- Pixote Andolini

Id like to hang on to Ghost. Flyers problems are many, but again you ain't winning poop with the worst goaltending in the league. As of now that's what the flyers have.

Also I have to say it - but Giroux is getting matched up against 5-on-5 by every team and rendering him ineffective. He's putting up some great numbers but he's starting to turn into a PP specialist only - similar to how Briere's career went as he got older.

I feel like the Flyers should do a big move and shakeup the roster bringing in another top talent to skate on Giroux's unit at even strength.

Also I have to say it - but Giroux is getting matched up against 5-on-5 by every team and rendering him ineffective. He's putting up some great numbers but he's starting to turn into a PP specialist only - similar to how Briere's career went as he got older.

I feel like the Flyers should do a big move and shakeup the roster bringing in another top talent to skate on Giroux's unit at even strength.
- Pixote Andolini

Interesting thoughts.

I feel like the biggest holes are goaltending and 3C. The goalies you just have to hope get better and make a move in the offseason. I would not trade assets for a guy right now. Don't think it's the year to do that. Frustrating as we expected steps forward this year but what are you going to do.

3C is a tough position. Cousins if only was a bit faster or bigger would be okay but I feel this a big hole on the team. Not sure how to fix that.

The defense is a long standing issue. Morin hopefully gets some games and they continue to improve. Streit and Schultz are stop gaps unfortunately. Getting sick of "stop gaps". Sigh.

Id like to hang on to Ghost. Flyers problems are many, but again you ain't winning poop with the worst goaltending in the league. As of now that's what the flyers have.
- flyer_nutter

The Flyers goaltending was the one thing last season that was consistently stellar throughout the season. They're a mess this season. Personnel changes aside, I think the Flyers should really address a solution before Thanksgiving.

Gostisbehere: He looks slower. He looks like the book is out on him and his lack of speed and size is really getting exposed this season. His shot is phenomenal, no question, but I think the Flyers need more from him than that.

The Flyers goaltending was the one thing last season that was consistently stellar throughout the season. They're a mess this season. Personnel changes aside, I think the Flyers should really address a solution before Thanksgiving.

Gostisbehere: He looks slower. He looks like the book is out on him and his lack of speed and size is really getting exposed this season. His shot is phenomenal, no question, but I think the Flyers need more from him than that.
- Pixote Andolini

Ghost is a little dude. Hell I can see that from his Facebook page. He needs figure out how to win with his mind and hockey IQ. I think he is smart enough to make that happen.

Hope so anyway.

So obviously the Flyers have to do something about the goaltending and defense.

My radical inner self would like to trade Gostisbehere before his stock plummets any further – perhaps for a goalie or pick(s). I'd definitely think about bringing Morin into the fold for some games.

Cousins is toast IMO. He's just not a NHL-calibre skater.

We all thought VdV was going to be scratched tonight but clearly that wasn't happening. He cost the Flyers a goal on that delay of game. I understand he's a big body who can skate (somewhat) and usually makes the safe play and kills penalties but it's pretty clear he's out of his depth in the NHL.

Shultz also looks pretty cooked IMO. He can block shots and he's a big body to help clear the crease and tie-up along the boards but he really just looks like an old man from an older era with all these youngsters flying by.
- Pixote Andolini

can't give up on a sophomore defender

Neither of the Flyers goalies can stop a beach ball at the moment.

At what point do they think about bringing Stollie up? Surely he can't do worse than these guys are doing.

My radical inner self would like to trade Gostisbehere before his stock plummets any further – perhaps for a goalie or pick(s). I'd definitely think about bringing Morin into the fold for some games.
- Pixote Andolini

Um. No. No x 5000. Take your radical self and lock him in the basement. Then have your normal self come back and re-read this.

Cousins is toast IMO. He's just not a NHL-calibre skater.

He actually was quite good tonight on both sides of the ice, and the line, even with VDV, was pretty effective at ES. Honestly, buried in a tough game to evaluate, they weren't an issue at all. Cousins looked good. It's PEB and his line that got their teeth kicked in.

>trade ghost

>trade ghost
- Giroux_Is_God

This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a trade ghost.

Was at the game tonight and here's a couple of thoughts:

The Flyers were actually outplaying the Leafs most of the game but just couldn't find a way to seal the deal on a shaky Anderson which seems to be a big trend this season so far. You just can't go into 3rd periods with a one goal lead and double the shots on a team and lose 6-3.

Mason was absolutely brutal, you can say what you want about the defense missing coverages and playing sloppy in their own end because they were far from perfect but at a point in the third I'm almost certain Mason may have let in 4 goals on something like 7 shots and you just can't do that as an NHL goaltender. Time to give the reigns to Neuvirth and hopefully he turns things around because with how Mason looked tonight he has zero confidence in his game.

Also haven't been too a Flyers game in a couple of years and seeing Vandevelde live just amplifies how much of nothing he really does out there. Every time he touched the puck tonight it was basically a turn over. The Flyers have so many better options than him the fact that he continues to have a regular spot in the lineup really puzzles me.

Time to give the reigns to Neuvirth and hopefully he turns things around because with how Mason looked tonight he has zero confidence in his game.
- FreshFlyer

This is literally verbatim what everyone said about Mason after Neuvy completely poop the bed in his last game in worse fashion. Tonight, I'd like to say Mason should have had a couple back, and the 6th one was pure mental at that point. But the defense bled prime chances. Fact is, neither has any confidence and they both show no signs of sustaining good play when they have a good game.

I'm sure Neuvirth starts tomorrow, but after that, who knows. It's almost nearing the time to carry a 3rd goalie in Stolarz and see what he can do if afforded the opportunity.

This is literally verbatim what everyone said about Mason after Neuvy completely poop the bed in his last game in worse fashion. Tonight, I'd like to say Mason should have had a couple back, and the 6th one was pure mental at that point. But the defense bled prime chances. Fact is, neither has any confidence and they both show no signs of sustaining good play when they have a good game.

I'm sure Neuvirth starts tomorrow, but after that, who knows. It's almost nearing the time to carry a 3rd goalie in Stolarz and see what he can do if afforded the opportunity.
- Mononoke

Not sure if you even want to put Stolarz in there though with how the defense has played. He has one terrible game and that's how you ruin a young goalie's confidence forever. I'm not sure if it is just me but from the games I have seen this season the team seems to play a lot better defensively for Neuvirth and this is one of the main reason's why I'd have him in there over Mason. Also when Mason lets a bad goal in you can really see it affect him, Neuvirth just seems to be calm about things and settle down, I'd rather have that in net than a guy who constantly gives bad body language every time a goal goes in, definitely is not a confidence booster for the guys playing in front of him.

That Brayden Schenn extension may have been a mistake on the Flyers part, really haven't seen him do much of anything at all this season so far and I'm kind of thinking they may have been better off just trading him instead of resigning him.

That Brayden Schenn extension may have been a mistake on the Flyers part, really haven't seen him do much of anything at all this season so far and I'm kind of thinking they may have been better off just trading him instead of resigning him.
- FreshFlyer

I was Team Trayden Schenn

I was Team Trayden Schenn
- Mononoke

As was I

Not sure if you even want to put Stolarz in there though with how the defense has played. He has one terrible game and that's how you ruin a young goalie's confidence forever. I'm not sure if it is just me but from the games I have seen this season the team seems to play a lot better defensively for Neuvirth and this is one of the main reason's why I'd have him in there over Mason. Also when Mason lets a bad goal in you can really see it affect him, Neuvirth just seems to be calm about things and settle down, I'd rather have that in net than a guy who constantly gives bad body language every time a goal goes in, definitely is not a confidence booster for the guys playing in front of him.
- FreshFlyer

Neuvirth has been calm to the tune of a 3.56 GAA and .859 save% this season. Mason tonight, 6th goal aside, couldn't make a save he needed to make, but they weren't exactly "soft" goals. They were high danger chances on breakaways and a 3on5 and through screens. Neuvy has been actually giving teams goals on mishandles and much softer stuff. If you're basing them playing better because of Neuvy's W-L, well he was pulled numerous times down several goals and they came back with Mason in net so Neuvy didn't get a loss. It's a little deceptive. Really they both have been way below subpar.

DId I really read someone say "let Neuvy take over"

Is that based off his previous 5 starts where he sucked or is that based off the one game that the team gave up 6 goals tonight? Which of those 6 goals should Mason had saved and if you make the case 2 ..great then he should get another 3 games just like Neuvy to see if he can give up more unscreened wristshots from the top of the zone.

Oh wait..its Philly Hockeybuzz..yah..lets trade Ghost because he is struggling in what will be his first full year...Lets trade Giroux because he is only tied for 3rd in the league in points..

14 games in and literally trade everyone..but not Coots ..cause you know fancy stats..damn his 9th on the team in scoring , damn his -2 , damn his turnovers..also not VDV because he is a big body and stuff.. and Ghost,move him..he hasnt played a full season yet but yeah ..get rid of him because no young dman ever struggles ...

As was I
- FreshFlyer

YOu also said this "Time to give the reigns to Neuvirth and hopefully he turns things around because with how Mason looked tonight he has zero confidence in his game."

Meaning you obviously didnt watch the last 5 Neuvirth starts where in each of those games he gave up goals worse then anything Mason did tonight..

Oh wait..its Philly Hockeybuzz..yah..lets trade Ghost because he is struggling in what will be his first full year...Lets trade Giroux because he is only tied for 3rd in the league in points..

14 games in and literally trade everyone..but not Coots ..cause you know fancy stats..damn his 9th on the team in scoring , damn his -2 , damn his turnovers..also not VDV because he is a big body and stuff.. and Ghost,move him..he hasnt played a full season yet but yeah ..get rid of him because no young dman ever struggles ...
- opeth_pa

Literally none of the people using "fancy stats" and defending Coots are in the first group ripping Giroux or making other ridiculous statements. What you said makes no sense and you're conflating two entirely different groups on this blog. The people using "fancy stats" are the patient, evaluative, reasonable ones on this site defending Giroux or Mason (maybe not tonight exactly) or Ghost or whoever time and again. Hence their defending of Couturier's play (and he's been a little sloppy with the turnovers of late and could certainly be more assertive in the o-zone) and seeing the plenty of good despite the scoring totals...which happened exactly the same early last year.

Funny enough, the people who rag on Coots have a much greater overlap with the people who rag on Giroux and make zany statements.

Literally none of the people using "fancy stats" and defending Coots are in the first group ripping Giroux or making other ridiculous statements. What you said makes no sense and you're conflating two entirely different groups on this blog. The people using "fancy stats" are the patient, evaluative, reasonable ones on this site defending Giroux or Mason (maybe not tonight exactly) or Ghost or whoever time and again. Hence their defending of Couturier's play (and he's been a little sloppy with the turnovers of late and could certainly be more assertive in the o-zone) and seeing the plenty of good despite the scoring totals...which happened exactly the same early last year.
- Mononoke

If you asked me to solve the problems this team has..trading Giroux, Coots , Ghost or Schenn are not solutions I come up with.. I hold to what I have said this season..You need more production from your second line center or less turnovers from your player that is supposed to be so sound . Again, not saying I think he is only a 3rd line center but Im saying to this point we need more then a -2 and 9th on the team in scoring from him.

My mini-rant above was more directed at the people talking about trading a young dman that hasnt played a full season, the player tied for 3 in the league in points or giving control to a goalie that literally sucked in 5 games in a row..

The only thing I took from tonight is, if you can't stop goals or defend goals, change the forward lines. When you have a healthy roster, play the weak link and scratch a contributor. I'm not saying this is why we lost but I am saying this goes beyond weak goaltending and a lack luster defense.

wait, they really scratched raffl and manning ??