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cabin
Buffalo Sabres
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Nov 10 @ 4:23 PM ET
This is Tim Murray were talking about here he was not gonna leave The draft without a center

Let's not forget we had stud defense prospects back then

- GERBE!!!75PTS




I give up

I need a beer
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San Jose Sharks
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Nov 10 @ 4:24 PM ET
doesn't that imply they were NOT tanking?
- prock

That's what I'm saying that we tanked the year before

before Jack too
GERBE!!!75PTS
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Nov 10 @ 4:25 PM ET


I give up

I need a beer

- cabin


there was no way he was gonna leave the draft without a center

We had no one in the system
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
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Nov 10 @ 4:25 PM ET
This is Tim Murray were talking about here he was not gonna leave The draft without a center

Let's not forget we had stud defense prospects back then

- GERBE!!!75PTS


You mean the same guy who went BPA this year instead of drafting a d-man? Nobody was passing on Ekblad
gordong
Location: NY
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Nov 10 @ 4:25 PM ET
yawn...........
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
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Nov 10 @ 4:27 PM ET
there was no way he was gonna leave the draft without a center

We had no one in the system

- GERBE!!!75PTS



They would have just moved Zadorov plus for a centre...
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San Jose Sharks
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Nov 10 @ 4:28 PM ET
Few things:

Ekblad is miles ahead of anyone in that draft class

Leon has 2 more pts in 1 extra game, the other Sam has less in 1 more game, Virtanen is back in the minors again I believe. The only ones that have "significant" points more than him are Ehlers and Nylander so it isn't like he's getting blown out of the water by his own class at all.

He did his best with Jack. Jack is not there. Samson is a playmaker, he creates with vision. With Jack not being here there was going to be a regression...

- RhinoFan



The point of this I did not know we drafted a complementary player that he needs a player like Jack to be Good

He was drafted second overall to make the players around him better
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Nov 10 @ 4:30 PM ET
You mean the same guy who went BPA this year instead of drafting a d-man? Nobody was passing on Ekblad
- Sabresfan-365


He said after the draft lottery The player that he was going to draft would automatically be there or something like that

He was never going to draft Ekblad first overall

Sabresfan-365
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Nov 10 @ 4:31 PM ET
The point of this I did not know we drafted a complementary player that he needs a player like Jack to be Good

He was drafted second overall to make the players around him better

- GERBE!!!75PTS



Here's the thing, he actually is. He's basically carried everyone hes played with possession wise (yes that matters).
Sabresfan-365
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Nov 10 @ 4:33 PM ET
He said after the draft lottery The player that he was going to draft would automatically be there or something like that

He was never going to draft Ekblad first overall

- GERBE!!!75PTS



Yea because a gm would never say something like that.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
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Nov 10 @ 4:34 PM ET
there was no way he was gonna leave the draft without a center

We had no one in the system

- GERBE!!!75PTS

And ? Whats the problem ? We drafted the best center on the list .
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
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Nov 10 @ 4:34 PM ET
Yea because a gm would never say something like that.
- Sabresfan-365


He is as gullable as a 13yo girl
Sabresfan-365
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Nov 10 @ 4:34 PM ET
And ? Whats the problem ? We drafted the best center on the list .
- cabin



He obviously thought Reinhart was going to be a 100 point centre
prock
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Nov 10 @ 4:35 PM ET
there was no way he was gonna leave the draft without a center

We had no one in the system

- GERBE!!!75PTS



I'm shocked you don't recall everyone laughing that as soon as anyone played well, during the McEichel year, they traded them.

Are all of those conversations stricken from your memory?
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Nov 10 @ 4:35 PM ET
And ? Whats the problem ? We drafted the best center on the list .
- cabin


He isn't producing like one
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Nov 10 @ 4:36 PM ET
I'm shocked you don't recall everyone laughing that as soon as anyone played well, during the McEichel year, they traded them.

Are all of those conversations stricken from your memory?

- prock



I'm talking about the Sam one where everyone said we didn't tank
prock
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Nov 10 @ 4:36 PM ET
He said after the draft lottery The player that he was going to draft would automatically be there or something like that

He was never going to draft Ekblad first overall

- GERBE!!!75PTS



A rebuilding team needs a little more than one high end player at each position. The idea that they would have up and dumped their second overall pick because they were 'stuck' with Ekblad is patently absurd.
cabin
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Nov 10 @ 4:37 PM ET
He obviously thought Reinhart was going to be a 100 point centre
- Sabresfan-365

And they said (even him) that it was a weak draft class and the better one was the year after.
prock
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Nov 10 @ 4:37 PM ET
I'm talking about the Sam one where everyone said we didn't tank
- GERBE!!!75PTS



They didn't. They sucked, and tried to recoup some assets on expiring contracts, at the deadline.

Miller and Vanek were the major trades, no? And they were both expiring contracts, no?
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Nov 10 @ 4:39 PM ET
He obviously thought Reinhart was going to be a 100 point centre
- Sabresfan-365


I was thinking he was going to be like jonathan toews a franchise changing player
cabin
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Nov 10 @ 4:40 PM ET
I was thinking he was going to be like jonathan toews a franchise changing player
- GERBE!!!75PTS

How long did that take him ? Sam just turned 21 the other day.
Sabresfan-365
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Nov 10 @ 4:40 PM ET
He isn't producing like one
- GERBE!!!75PTS


Go look at Landeskog, Ryan and Staal's stats.
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Nov 10 @ 4:41 PM ET
They didn't. They sucked, and tried to recoup some assets on expiring contracts, at the deadline.

Miller and Vanek were the major trades, no? And they were both expiring contracts, no?

- prock


Look at the roster compared to the one to the Jack Year ..

The tank started when they got rid of Vanek IMO
Sabresfan-365
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Nov 10 @ 4:41 PM ET
I was thinking he was going to be like jonathan toews a franchise changing player
- GERBE!!!75PTS



That's a you problem.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Nov 10 @ 4:42 PM ET
They would have just moved Zadorov plus for a centre...
- Sabresfan-365

There's no way they would ever do that.... Wait.
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