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cabin
Buffalo Sabres
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Nov 10 @ 12:23 PM ET
The goal was to get a franchise center and he drafted Sam he expected him to be that ..
- GERBE!!!75PTS


Not franchise . Maybe you labeled him that . As all the others you have and were worng about ..

Cody Hodgson
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 10 @ 12:23 PM ET
No, Murray started the tear down for Sam. He was not the main piece of the puzzle but he was a key piece. He will still be a key piece this freak out about Reinhart is very premature. He played very well last night just didn't find the score sheet.

When Reinhart has the puck you can see the vision he has. Most casual fans don't see it.

- Stripes77

Murray did not start the tear down, it was already being torn down that season when Murray took over

Reinhart was the first forward taken in his draft class. Since when is the expectation of the best forward in a draft year not "franchise player"

These ever changing expectations of players on this team is crazy
Frizzlefry
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 10.10.2015

Nov 10 @ 12:24 PM ET
Surgery for Ennis.
- SABRES 89


How are we going to replace all that scoring?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
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Nov 10 @ 12:24 PM ET
You are going absolutely nuts right now why the hell Did we tank then that year ?
He was not going to take the defenseman first overall he was going to take Sam
He said there was a franchise defensemen and a franchise centerman

- GERBE!!!75PTS



He was going to take Sam because of the need of centers.

Not because he was the franchise...

Seriously I cannot fix stupid.
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
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Nov 10 @ 12:24 PM ET
Murray did not start the tear down, it was already being torn down that season when Murray took over

Reinhart was the first forward taken in his draft class. Since when is the expectation of the best forward in a draft year not "franchise player"

These ever changing expectations of players on this team is crazy

- sbroads24


You and I both know that was the weakest draft class in the last decade. Which is why he tanked for McEichel...
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
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Nov 10 @ 12:25 PM ET
Obama care is a mess though.

I am sorry for your sister but it is a complete mess.

Trump says he plans to replace it with something that works...we shall see.

In the mean time I am paying 4 times as much for my health insurance premiums than I was per paycheck in 2014 for the same family plan.

- Stripes77


That is a common mistake: the increase in health care premiums for private insurance plans has nothing to do with the Affordable Care Act. It is a function of the private market.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
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Joined: 02.11.2009

Nov 10 @ 12:26 PM ET
Why the (frank) would you tank that year if he's not a franchise player?

Trade the (frank)ing pick then .

I can't believe everyone is A-OK with a 2nd overall pick being a "good player "
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
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Nov 10 @ 12:27 PM ET
Obama care is a mess though.

I am sorry for your sister but it is a complete mess.

Trump says he plans to replace it with something that works...we shall see.

In the mean time I am paying 4 times as much for my health insurance premiums than I was per paycheck in 2014 for the same family plan.

- Stripes77

Nothing is perfect right away. It needs to be fixed, I agree. I pay a ton for my family health insurance at my job.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
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Nov 10 @ 12:27 PM ET
Why the (frank) would you tank that year if he's not a franchise player?

Trade the (frank)ing pick then .

I can't believe everyone is A-OK with a 2nd overall pick being a "good player "

- GERBE!!!75PTS




The sky is blue . Honest .. Look up.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
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Nov 10 @ 12:28 PM ET
He was going to take Sam because of the need of centers.

Not because he was the franchise...

Seriously I cannot fix stupid.

- Stripes77


When is the first forward in the draft not Considered A franchise player ?
Stripes77
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Nov 10 @ 12:29 PM ET
That is a common mistake: the increase in health care premiums for private insurance plans has nothing to do with the Affordable Care Act. It is a function of the private market.
- Der Kaiser


Which is a direct relation with the cost of medical care in this country (directly related to Obama Care)

Experts note that changes under ACA could ultimately increase the growth rate of health care costs initially, since more people will be covered (and paying for) health plans and treatments. The continued economic recovery is expected to contribute, as well, as more Americans have increased income to spend on health care.
sbroads24
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Nov 10 @ 12:29 PM ET
You and I both know that was the weakest draft class in the last decade. Which is why he tanked for McEichel...
- Stripes77

I thought so at first
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
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Nov 10 @ 12:29 PM ET
When is the first forward in the draft not A franchise player ?
- GERBE!!!75PTS

David Legwand, Yukopov, etc...
Stripes77
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Nov 10 @ 12:30 PM ET
Nothing is perfect right away. It needs to be fixed, I agree. I pay a ton for my family health insurance at my job.
- sbroads24



It was rushed. It does need to be fixed. I believe in the concept just not how it came to be.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
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Nov 10 @ 12:30 PM ET
David Legwand, Yukopov, etc...
- jochfr


But those players were considered franchise players correct ?
Stripes77
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Nov 10 @ 12:31 PM ET
David Legwand, Yukopov, etc...
- jochfr



Facts have NO PLACE
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
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Nov 10 @ 12:31 PM ET
I thought so at first
- sbroads24


It's just people making up excuses now everyone is (frank)ing producing but our player
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
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Nov 10 @ 12:31 PM ET
But those players were considered franchise players correct ?
- GERBE!!!75PTS

No
Stripes77
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Nov 10 @ 12:32 PM ET
I thought so at first
- sbroads24



There are some good picks in that class but none of the experts had them in the top tier.

If junior was expecting a franchise changing player I don't know what to tell him. Reinhart and even Bennett are not those players. Great pieces just not THE GUY.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
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Nov 10 @ 12:32 PM ET
But those players were considered franchise players correct ?
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Nope .. Most expect them to possibly become that. How many later picks turned out to be franchise players . Lots .
Der Kaiser
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Nov 10 @ 12:34 PM ET
Nothing is perfect right away. It needs to be fixed, I agree. I pay a ton for my family health insurance at my job.
- sbroads24



Heres a dirty little secret - health care is expensive because we don't get to negotiate prices before we obtain the services. If you go to the ER in Rochester, you're billed $1,600 just to walk into the ER: it doesn't matter how long you stay, and you're billed separately by the doctor or nurses who treat you, and separately again for any medicines they administer.

This is preposterous.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
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Nov 10 @ 12:34 PM ET
It was rushed. It does need to be fixed. I believe in the concept just not how it came to be.
- Stripes77

And now it will be removed with no replacement...
Fix what's in place and improve upon it.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
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Nov 10 @ 12:34 PM ET
Nope .. Most expect them to possibly become that. How many later picks turned out to be franchise players . Lots .
- cabin


That's my point that's what you expect out of your second overall pick
Stripes77
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Nov 10 @ 12:35 PM ET
And now it will be removed with no replacement...
Fix what's in place and improve upon it.

- jochfr


It won't be removed without something in its place.

Trump at least has said that. We shall see.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
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Nov 10 @ 12:35 PM ET
No
- jochfr


Yes Neil was everyone said he was going to be ov and he was going to be a franchise changing player
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