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Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Jul 6 @ 7:34 PM ET
Can he fit?
- Cape Breton Bruins


i have a big trunk.
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Jul 6 @ 9:01 PM ET
i have a big trunk.
- Gramps28

-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jul 7 @ 12:32 AM ET
Puddy will appreciate the company!
- Cape Breton Bruins



puddy and i go way back


bet he loves me
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jul 7 @ 12:34 AM ET
I'm gonna bump this for Dopps

I'm neutral here but it's rare that Monkey posts so I'd be curious to see Dopps' response

- Crimsoninja



he

doesn't

respond

to

reality




give up
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 7 @ 12:35 AM ET
Well the answer to that question is that the overwhelming majority of homeless people suffer from serious mental health issues and are incapable of working either due to the illness itself, the medication they take or a combination of both. For example my uncle suffers from paranoid schizophrenia and his medication causes him to sleep between 12-14 hours per day. Even if the medication were enough for him to be coherent, which it isn't, he wouldn't have enough hours left in the day to reasonably be expected to work a job with which to support himself.

My uncle got lucky as my grandparents were well off and left him with enough money to buy a small condo and pay for his basic needs, most people are not so lucky and end up homeless. The reason we have homeless people is that we do not provide the support needed to the people who need it and we don't provide this support because it brings in far too few votes for the money investments needed.

So next time you see this Catherine, instead of filling her head with misguided ideals such as homeless people being lazy, please inform her that the best way to help the homeless is to provide them with the social, mental as well as financial help they need. Doing so will not only help these people find homes but also make it possible for people with light to moderate illnesses to become productive members of society.

- Monkey

i feel like this post may have gotten lost in the shuffle so i wanted to bump it for dopps

i try to stay neutral in here but monkey seems like a smart guy so id be interested in dopps' response to this
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 7 @ 6:18 AM ET
he

doesn't

respond

to

reality




give up

- -davies-

Wrong, he responds to being called a idiot.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 7 @ 8:16 AM ET
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 7 @ 9:12 AM ET


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SourceS.V.P.
St Louis Blues
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Joined: 04.20.2014

Jul 7 @ 9:20 AM ET


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- D0PPELGANGER

pretty boy Trud'oh sure looks the part
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 7 @ 9:29 AM ET
see?
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Jul 7 @ 9:58 AM ET
Axis & Allies is a series of World War II strategy board games. Originally designed by Larry Harris and published by Nova Game Designs in 1981,[1][2] the game was republished by the Milton Bradley Company in 1984 as part of the Gamemaster Series of board games. This edition has been retroactively named Axis & Allies: Classic to differentiate it from later revisions. In 1996, Axis & Allies: Classic was inducted into the Academy of Adventure Gaming Arts & Design Adventure Gaming Hall of Fame.[3] Games magazine also has inducted Axis & Allies into their buyers' guide Hall of Fame, an honor the magazine extends to "games that have met or exceeded the highest standards of quality and play value and have been continuously in production for at least 10 years; i.e., classics."[4]

Axis & Allies: Classic was the most successful of the five Gamemaster Series of board games. Long after the Gamemaster name was retired, A&A: Classic lives on having been moved to the Avalon Hill lineup following the acquisition of Milton Bradley Company and Avalon Hill by Hasbro. The game itself has gone through several revisions, most recently in 2013. The object of the game and its spinoffs is to win the war by capturing enough critical territories to gain the advantage over the enemy in a recreation of World War II.

After acquiring Milton Bradley (1984) and Avalon Hill (1998), Hasbro transferred the Axis & Allies: Classic (1984) board game from the Milton Bradley division to the Avalon Hill division in 1999. In 1999, Hasbro acquired Wizards of the Coast. In 2004, Hasbro made Avalon Hill a subsidiary of Wizards of the Coast (WotC).

The Axis & Allies (1984–present) board game series is currently produced by WotC under the Avalon Hill label. Hasbro is the parent company. There are a total of 11 board games in the Axis & Allies series, 8 of which are currently available from many game resellers. The two out-of-print A&A board games, Axis & Allies: Classic (1984) and Axis & Allies: 50th Anniversary Edition (2008) can be found on various auction websites.

The original Axis & Allies: Classic board game has been followed by ten spinoff games using more or less the same mechanics: in 1999, Axis & Allies: Europe was released, with slightly updated rules and focus on the European theater of World War II; this was followed in 2001 by Axis & Allies: Pacific with similar rules and focus shifted to the Pacific theater. Axis & Allies: D-Day (2004) focused on the Allied liberation of France. In 2004, the first major revision to the core game, Axis & Allies: Revised was released, with elements taken from A&A: Europe and A&A: Pacific, also celebrating the 20th anniversary of Axis & Allies itself. Axis & Allies: Battle of the Bulge (2006) focused on the Battle of the Bulge in Europe while Axis & Allies: Guadalcanal (2007) focused on the Solomon Islands Campaign in the Pacific. In 2008, Axis & Allies: 50th Anniversary Edition was released as one of the three games celebrating the 50th anniversary of its publisher, Avalon Hill (the other two games were Acquire and Diplomacy). This was followed by Axis & Allies: 1942 in 2009, the second major revision to the core game, with mechanics taken from the anniversary edition, also celebrating the 25th anniversary of Axis & Allies itself. Axis & Allies: Pacific 1940 was released in December 2009 and Axis & Allies: Europe 1940 was released in the second half of 2010.

The 11th A&A board game in the series, Axis & Allies: Europe 1940 was released in August, 2010. The game can be combined with Pacific 1940 to form a Global game of World War II on a combined 175x80 cm (70" x 32") map. All nine major powers of World War II, China, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the Soviet Union, the United Kingdom, the United States and the ANZAC forces, are represented in the combined global game with unique units and colors. To streamline the game and correct balance issues, Global 1940 was revised and a new rule set was released on the Axis & Allies forums in January 2011.

Axis & Allies is not a strict historical wargame, due to its streamlining for ease of play and balancing so that both sides have a chance to win. For instance, the economic model is simplistic, with each territory producing a number of Industrial Production Certificates (IPCs) for the purchase of new units. Moreover, the game is supposed to start in the spring of 1942, but Japan is immediately in position to attack Hawaii again, while Germany is pressed well into the Soviet Union with an initially superior force. If the game were truer to history, the Axis empires would be at their climax in 1942, about to be pushed back by the Allies.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 7 @ 10:10 AM ET
Axis & Allies is a series of World War II strategy board games. Originally designed by Larry Harris and published by Nova Game Designs in 1981,
- Cape Breton Bruins[1][2] the game was republished by the Milton Bradley Company in 1984 as part of the Gamemaster Series of board games. This edition has been retroactively named Axis & Allies: Classic to differentiate it from later revisions. In 1996, Axis & Allies: Classic was inducted into the Academy of Adventure Gaming Arts & Design Adventure Gaming Hall of Fame.[3] Games magazine also has inducted Axis & Allies into their buyers' guide Hall of Fame, an honor the magazine extends to "games that have met or exceeded the highest standards of quality and play value and have been continuously in production for at least 10 years; i.e., classics."[4]

Axis & Allies: Classic was the most successful of the five Gamemaster Series of board games. Long after the Gamemaster name was retired, A&A: Classic lives on having been moved to the Avalon Hill lineup following the acquisition of Milton Bradley Company and Avalon Hill by Hasbro. The game itself has gone through several revisions, most recently in 2013. The object of the game and its spinoffs is to win the war by capturing enough critical territories to gain the advantage over the enemy in a recreation of World War II.

After acquiring Milton Bradley (1984) and Avalon Hill (1998), Hasbro transferred the Axis & Allies: Classic (1984) board game from the Milton Bradley division to the Avalon Hill division in 1999. In 1999, Hasbro acquired Wizards of the Coast. In 2004, Hasbro made Avalon Hill a subsidiary of Wizards of the Coast (WotC).

The Axis & Allies (1984–present) board game series is currently produced by WotC under the Avalon Hill label. Hasbro is the parent company. There are a total of 11 board games in the Axis & Allies series, 8 of which are currently available from many game resellers. The two out-of-print A&A board games, Axis & Allies: Classic (1984) and Axis & Allies: 50th Anniversary Edition (2008) can be found on various auction websites.

The original Axis & Allies: Classic board game has been followed by ten spinoff games using more or less the same mechanics: in 1999, Axis & Allies: Europe was released, with slightly updated rules and focus on the European theater of World War II; this was followed in 2001 by Axis & Allies: Pacific with similar rules and focus shifted to the Pacific theater. Axis & Allies: D-Day (2004) focused on the Allied liberation of France. In 2004, the first major revision to the core game, Axis & Allies: Revised was released, with elements taken from A&A: Europe and A&A: Pacific, also celebrating the 20th anniversary of Axis & Allies itself. Axis & Allies: Battle of the Bulge (2006) focused on the Battle of the Bulge in Europe while Axis & Allies: Guadalcanal (2007) focused on the Solomon Islands Campaign in the Pacific. In 2008, Axis & Allies: 50th Anniversary Edition was released as one of the three games celebrating the 50th anniversary of its publisher, Avalon Hill (the other two games were Acquire and Diplomacy). This was followed by Axis & Allies: 1942 in 2009, the second major revision to the core game, with mechanics taken from the anniversary edition, also celebrating the 25th anniversary of Axis & Allies itself. Axis & Allies: Pacific 1940 was released in December 2009 and Axis & Allies: Europe 1940 was released in the second half of 2010.

The 11th A&A board game in the series, Axis & Allies: Europe 1940 was released in August, 2010. The game can be combined with Pacific 1940 to form a Global game of World War II on a combined 175x80 cm (70" x 32") map. All nine major powers of World War II, China, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the Soviet Union, the United Kingdom, the United States and the ANZAC forces, are represented in the combined global game with unique units and colors. To streamline the game and correct balance issues, Global 1940 was revised and a new rule set was released on the Axis & Allies forums in January 2011.

Axis & Allies is not a strict historical wargame, due to its streamlining for ease of play and balancing so that both sides have a chance to win. For instance, the economic model is simplistic, with each territory producing a number of Industrial Production Certificates (IPCs) for the purchase of new units. Moreover, the game is supposed to start in the spring of 1942, but Japan is immediately in position to attack Hawaii again, while Germany is pressed well into the Soviet Union with an initially superior force. If the game were truer to history, the Axis empires would be at their climax in 1942, about to be pushed back by the Allies.




many years ago, I used to play Risk with friends, two who were brothers ...... and the games almost always ended up with them coming to blows.

They graduated to Axis & Allies, but the outcome was always the same, fist fights and wrestling...........
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 7 @ 10:16 AM ET




http://www.cnsnews.com/ne...record-153168000-employed
SourceS.V.P.
St Louis Blues
Location: GOTTA GO FAST, QC
Joined: 04.20.2014

Jul 7 @ 10:17 AM ET
many years ago, I used to play Risk with friends, two who were brothers ...... and the games almost always ended up with them coming to blows.

They graduated to Axis & Allies, but the outcome was always the same, fist fights and wrestling...........

- D0PPELGANGER

go play Axis & Allies with him and DT99999 and Gramps28
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 7 @ 10:19 AM ET
go play Axis & Allies with him and DT99999 and Gramps28
- SourceS.V.P.



Why, will they end up fighting?
SourceS.V.P.
St Louis Blues
Location: GOTTA GO FAST, QC
Joined: 04.20.2014

Jul 7 @ 10:22 AM ET
Why, will they end up fighting?
- D0PPELGANGER

they were scheduling a game on here yesterday

don't know about the fighting part
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 7 @ 10:37 AM ET
they were scheduling a game on here yesterday

don't know about the fighting part

- SourceS.V.P.


One of the main reasons I played Risk/Axis & Allies with the brothers, was their Hot sister.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 7 @ 10:39 AM ET
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jul 7 @ 10:39 AM ET
many years ago, I used to play Risk with friends, two who were brothers ...... and the games almost always ended up with them coming to blows.

They graduated to Axis & Allies, but the outcome was always the same, fist fights and wrestling...........

- D0PPELGANGER

I CALL BULLpoop
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jul 7 @ 10:41 AM ET
One of the main reasons I played Risk/Axis & Allies with the brothers, was their Hot sister.
- D0PPELGANGER

davies is going on the trip too
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 7 @ 11:00 AM ET

- D0PPELGANGER

Yup. It's unfortunate the Harper government screwed the pooch so hard, that it lead to the current situation. And yet here we are, forced to pay out a settlement to this guy, rather than throwing millions of dollars into a civil suit that would have likely still resulted in a massive payout.

Not the first time a liberal government has had to pay for conservative screw-ups.


But by all means, continue being a brainwashed twat.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jul 7 @ 11:15 AM ET
Yup. It's unfortunate the Harper government screwed the pooch so hard, that it lead to the current situation. And yet here we are, forced to pay out a settlement to this guy, rather than throwing millions of dollars into a civil suit that would have likely still resulted in a massive payout.

Not the first time a liberal government has had to pay for conservative screw-ups.


But by all means, continue being a brainwashed twat.

- Feeling Glucky?




So your boy, Tru-D'Oh!, slinks of to Europe, makes sure he gets lots of Photo Ops for the Sheeple, like you, at home (Queen, GLobal Citizen concert etc) and leaves his ministers to do his dirty work today.

Why, if progressives, and the sheeple, like you, who feel that Khadr deserves this money and the apology, don't you demand the Prime Minister issue the apology, in person? He did it for the first Nations, and others.

Why has the money already been paid?

I'll tell you why, because it circumvents any legal efforts by the Widow of Cpl Speer, to prevent him from receiving compensation.

This must be a proud day for you, and your fellow progressives.


Tru-D'Oh! proved himself a coward today .

Without a single court order forcing payment to Omar Khadr he agreed to pay the terrorist with your money and offer an apology.
Worse, he made sure he did all this while Parliament wasn't sitting and he was at an international summit with no political or media scrutiny. Such a coward.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 7 @ 11:21 AM ET
i was hoping you'd respond to Monkey's post
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jul 7 @ 11:29 AM ET
So your boy, Tru-D'Oh!, slinks of to Europe, makes sure he gets lots of Photo Ops for the Sheeple, like you, at home (Queen, GLobal Citizen concert etc) and leaves his ministers to do his dirty work today.

Why, if progressives, and the sheeple, like you, who feel that Khadr deserves this money and the apology, don't you demand the Prime Minister issue the apology, in person? He did it for the first Nations, and others.

Why has the money already been paid?

I'll tell you why, because it circumvents any legal efforts by the Widow of Cpl Speer, to prevent him from receiving compensation.

This must be a proud day for you, and your fellow progressives.


Tru-D'Oh! proved himself a coward today .

Without a single court order forcing payment to Omar Khadr he agreed to pay the terrorist with your money and offer an apology.
Worse, he made sure he did all this while Parliament wasn't sitting and he was at an international summit with no political or media scrutiny. Such a coward.

- D0PPELGANGER


Probably because if they didn't pay him this they would have had to pay him $20 million on top of all the added legal costs you (frank)ing imbecile.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 7 @ 11:36 AM ET
So your boy, Tru-D'Oh!, slinks of to Europe, makes sure he gets lots of Photo Ops for the Sheeple, like you, at home (Queen, GLobal Citizen concert etc) and leaves his ministers to do his dirty work today.

Why, if progressives, and the sheeple, like you, who feel that Khadr deserves this money and the apology, don't you demand the Prime Minister issue the apology, in person? He did it for the first Nations, and others.

Why has the money already been paid?

I'll tell you why, because it circumvents any legal efforts by the Widow of Cpl Speer, to prevent him from receiving compensation.

This must be a proud day for you, and your fellow progressives.


Tru-D'Oh! proved himself a coward today .

Without a single court order forcing payment to Omar Khadr he agreed to pay the terrorist with your money and offer an apology.
Worse, he made sure he did all this while Parliament wasn't sitting and he was at an international summit with no political or media scrutiny. Such a coward.

- D0PPELGANGER

Okay, I'm (frank)ing sick of the idiocy and done with writing a diatribe every single time a friend posts about how they're upset that Trudeau is giving a terrorist $10m. You people are.... wilfully ignorant and hypocritical. Here's why. (And I thoroughly suggest reading the entire post. If you know me, you know I'm neither stupid, nor an apologist. I am pure (frank)ing science, and this post is such. Read it before making an ass of yourself by posting about how we just gave a terrorist money).

The story (the facts we know).
* Canadian born Khadr was taken to Afghanistan at 15 years old, by his father. We don't know if he wanted to go, and we don't know why they went. There has been zero evidence put forth to suggest the trip had anything to do with terrorism. Regardless, as he was only 15, he had no choice in the matter.
(EDIT: He was actually taken to Afghanistan at 9 years of age. He was taken to Gitmo at 15)
* Khadr was found in critical condition following a firefight. The mission debrief report filed by the US troops stated that a middle aged man threw a grenade, which killed one US soldier. The grenadier was shot in the head and confirmed killed.
* Khadr was taken to Guantanamo Bay prison. No charges were filed against him at that time.
* Several years later, formal charges were filed. These charges were technically not even charges of war crimes, as if they were true, Khadr would be considered an enemy combatant during a time of war, and thus everything he was accused of doing, was legal under rules of engagement. He was denied access to a lawyer at this point and no trial date was set. He was held in detention and tortured for nearly 10 years.
* Nearly a decade later, an addendum to the original mission debrief was submitted, which identified the grenadier as Khadr by name. The description was updated to match that of a 15 year old Khadr. The original report was not rescinded. No one knows who made the addendum. No US personnel present during the firefight confirms the addendum.
* A week later, Khadr is offered a plea deal. The terms of the deal were to admit guilt to all charges and serve a few more years in a Canadian prison, or refuse to admit guilt and be denied trial indefinitely.
* Khadr takes the plea deal, is transferred to Canada.
* Khadr sues the Canadian government for their involvement in his illegal detention, torture, and lack of a trial.

All of the above is true as far as anyone knows. That is the official story, from both the Canadian and US governments. They have said straight out that Khadr would not be offered a trial unless he took the plea deal. Just let that sink in for a moment.

Now let me ask you a question.
As a Canadian, what do you stand for? Do you believe that you, as a Canadian, have the right to be presumed innocent, until proven guilty, as well as the right to a fair and quick trial? I know this is hard for many of you to consider without jumping to "oh, but he's a terrorist, so (frank) him, he's a traitor and doesn't deserve anything", but we'll get to that in a minute. Seriously consider this. Do you believe you have, as a Canadian, the inalienable right to everything laid out in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms?

If you do, but still think Khadr does not, because he is a terrorist, let me ask you; "How do you know he is guilty?" There was no trial for 10 years, and he was only offered a trial on the condition that he plead guilty. How do we, as Canadians, determine guilt? Have you read and understood the Chart of Rights and Freedoms? It's entire purpose is precisely to ensure that what happened to Khadr, is not allowed to happen. Period.

Now I know many of you still can't get past the "but he's a traitor so he doesn't deserve a trial" even though neither you, nor me, nor the US or Canadian government were able to provide ANY evidence whatsoever, of his guilt (no evidence was submitted during his trial, presumably because none exists), but that doesn't matter. Let me explain the problem to you.

You are worried that terrorists are trying to take away your freedoms as a Canadian right? They're trying to force Sharia law upon us and we as Canadians, won't stand for that right?

Do you see where I'm going here? Presuming Khadr's guilt, with no evidence and without trial, is precisely what the terrorists want to do to Canada. Isn't that your concern? Does it not strike you then, that by saying that Khadr doesn't deserve a fair trial because he is a terrorist, with absolutely no evidence, nor a trial to prove the charges, that you are doing precisely what you are worried the terrorists are trying to do do us? A presumption of guilt, no trial, a decade of detention and torture. Is that not Sharia law?

At this point, I don't think any of us should even be concerned about Khadrs innocence or guilt. He is inconsequential at this point. The REAL concern for all Canadians, is that our government denied a Canadian citizen his inalienable rights, guaranteed to him under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. They did EXACTLY what you are worried the terrorists are trying to do. If Khadr was guilty, a trial probably would have proven such, so why was he denied a trial?

For your information, the Canadian government did not simply offer up an apology and $10m for no reason. They were sued. The Canadian Supreme Court found in favour of Khadr, in that the Canadian government was in breach of Canadian and International law. That money will mostly be covering his legal fees. But here's where you should be more concerned about the money. The Canadian government spent $120m of your money, defending itself for committing what is legally, war crimes. Seriously. Your government, was just successfully sued, for war crimes. Crimes they committed not only against Khadr, but against the entire Canadian public. They assured us that we would all be given a fair trial, but now we know that is not true. They assured us that we will always be presumed innocent until proven guilty. We know that is not true. They took your money, money which could have been spent on building half a hospital or something, and spent it instead, on committing war crimes, and crimes directly against the Charter on which our country was founded.

In summation:
If you believe Khadr did not deserve a fair and quick trial, you are not Canadian. You do not stand for what Canada stands for. You are saying very clearly, that you don't care about evidence, treating people (who we presume are innocent until proven guilty) with basic decency, or your own or anyone else's right to a fair trial. You are, quite literally, openly supporting about half of Sharia law. You (frank)wits.
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