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D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jun 29 @ 4:19 PM ET
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jun 29 @ 4:23 PM ET
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jun 29 @ 4:24 PM ET
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jun 29 @ 4:25 PM ET
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jun 29 @ 4:31 PM ET
If you bothered to do a little research into early 20th Century American Politics, you might expand your knowledge on today's current political extremes

Obama Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan was so interested in the progressive/socialist movement's history, that she wrote her thesis at Princeton University, and was titled “To the Final Conflict: Socialism in New York City, 1900-1933.”

In it she wrote ......... “In our own times, a coherent socialist movement is nowhere to be found in the United States.” This appears to be a comment on modern-day America, at least as it was in 1981.

Kagan’s verdict, of course, depends on how you define “socialist.” The modern socialist movement calls itself “progressive.”



But the history of the Progressive Party, which ran FDR’s former vice president Henry Wallace as its presidential candidate in 1948, really explains the underpinnings and the the current direction of the Democratic Party.



The Progressive Party was controlled by the Communist Party but efforts to work through the democratic process did not die out with its election defeat in 1948. Communists and “progressives” then targeted the Democratic Party for a takeover from within............. and they succeeded.




In reality, many Communist Party operatives were in control of the Progressive Party. Before it was even formed the Communist Party merged two of its front organizations, the National Citizens Political Action Committee (NC-PAC) and the Independent Citizens Committee of the Arts and Sciences, to form the Progressive Citizens of America (PCA), which became the organizing tool for the Wallace campaign.”


If you bothered to do a background check on Obama's former “Green Czar” , and now CNN political commentator Van Jones, you'd find out that was, and probably still is an anti-capitalist and avowed Communist Van Jones, who while in jail stated

"I met all these young radical people of color -- I mean really radical, communists and anarchists. And it was, like, 'This is what I need to be a part of. I spent the next ten years of my life working with a lot of those people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary. I was a rowdy nationalist on April 28th, and then the verdicts came down on April 29th By August, I was a communist."


And I'm just scratching the surface .......... if you really want to know, what you don't know, you need to inform yourself............ instead of taking what people like Van Jones in the left wing progressive mainstream media tell you what to think and say.

- D0PPELGANGER

communism is great

It means you get an equal education and equal opportunity to not be a jackass like everybody else
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Jun 29 @ 4:44 PM ET
communism is great

It means you get an equal education and equal opportunity to not be a jackass like everybody else

- twiztedmike

hooooooooooly
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 29 @ 5:23 PM ET
8/10 Most federally dependant states are Republican.

"We are trying to help you."

"LOL (frank) YOU CUCK"

- Cape Breton Bruins

Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 29 @ 6:04 PM ET
If you bothered to do a little research into early 20th Century American Politics, you might expand your knowledge on today's current political extremes

Obama Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan was so interested in the progressive/socialist movement's history, that she wrote her thesis at Princeton University, and was titled “To the Final Conflict: Socialism in New York City, 1900-1933.”

In it she wrote ......... “In our own times, a coherent socialist movement is nowhere to be found in the United States.” This appears to be a comment on modern-day America, at least as it was in 1981.

Kagan’s verdict, of course, depends on how you define “socialist.” The modern socialist movement calls itself “progressive.”



But the history of the Progressive Party, which ran FDR’s former vice president Henry Wallace as its presidential candidate in 1948, really explains the underpinnings and the the current direction of the Democratic Party.



The Progressive Party was controlled by the Communist Party but efforts to work through the democratic process did not die out with its election defeat in 1948. Communists and “progressives” then targeted the Democratic Party for a takeover from within............. and they succeeded.




In reality, many Communist Party operatives were in control of the Progressive Party. Before it was even formed the Communist Party merged two of its front organizations, the National Citizens Political Action Committee (NC-PAC) and the Independent Citizens Committee of the Arts and Sciences, to form the Progressive Citizens of America (PCA), which became the organizing tool for the Wallace campaign.”


If you bothered to do a background check on Obama's former “Green Czar” , and now CNN political commentator Van Jones, you'd find out that was, and probably still is an anti-capitalist and avowed Communist Van Jones, who while in jail stated

"I met all these young radical people of color -- I mean really radical, communists and anarchists. And it was, like, 'This is what I need to be a part of. I spent the next ten years of my life working with a lot of those people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary. I was a rowdy nationalist on April 28th, and then the verdicts came down on April 29th By August, I was a communist."


And I'm just scratching the surface .......... if you really want to know, what you don't know, you need to inform yourself............ instead of taking what people like Van Jones in the left wing progressive mainstream media tell you what to think and say.

- D0PPELGANGER


Serious question: how many framed pictures of Joe McCarthy do you have?

Follow up question: how many can you see from your bed?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 29 @ 6:52 PM ET
hooooooooooly
- Cape Breton Bruins

It's clearly not a system that would work... sounds nice on paper, but way too susceptible to corruption, before the communism part actually can even start.

You need to eliminate scarcity and corruption... and the scarcity problem is the easiest of the two to fix


That being said, coming from a family that grew up under one of the worst communist regimes... I struggle to see how US capitalism is superior. You're talking about a system so corrupt where there is an industry built up around imprisoning people for minor offences, with a powerful lobby that influences laws so that they can keep imprissoning more and more people. It's a system where countless families have to pick between poverty or letting infants die, a system where higher education is reserved for those who can afford it- but where many of the jobs that can help you afford it require said education.

It's so embarrassingly broken that it's not hard to see why people would look to communism as an improvement.

It's also a system that is eroding itself. The search for higher profits is leading to more and more automation, and will continue to do so, rendering a massive portion of the population unemployed... and we're not just talking about factory jobs. Computers are already rendering some lawyers obsolete(meh).

We're headed to some pretty (frank)ed up times.
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Jun 29 @ 7:04 PM ET
And were is the proof ..............?????
- D0PPELGANGER

its why they are investigating you dolt. or everyone is lawyering up because they have money to burn.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 29 @ 8:07 PM ET
Could you elaborate, and explain why "ACA was dying and would collapse if everything was left status quo?"
- aschuter82

Dopps, any update here?
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Jun 29 @ 9:21 PM ET
It's clearly not a system that would work... sounds nice on paper, but way too susceptible to corruption, before the communism part actually can even start.

You need to eliminate scarcity and corruption... and the scarcity problem is the easiest of the two to fix


That being said, coming from a family that grew up under one of the worst communist regimes... I struggle to see how US capitalism is superior. You're talking about a system so corrupt where there is an industry built up around imprisoning people for minor offences, with a powerful lobby that influences laws so that they can keep imprissoning more and more people. It's a system where countless families have to pick between poverty or letting infants die, a system where higher education is reserved for those who can afford it- but where many of the jobs that can help you afford it require said education.

It's so embarrassingly broken that it's not hard to see why people would look to communism as an improvement.

It's also a system that is eroding itself. The search for higher profits is leading to more and more automation, and will continue to do so, rendering a massive portion of the population unemployed... and we're not just talking about factory jobs. Computers are already rendering some lawyers obsolete(meh).

We're headed to some pretty (frank)ed up times.

- Feeling Glucky?


*plants a garden*
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 30 @ 7:19 AM ET
aschuter82
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Cypress Creek
Joined: 06.18.2010

Jun 30 @ 7:23 AM ET
If you bothered to do a little research into early 20th Century American Politics, you might expand your knowledge on today's current political extremes

Obama Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan was so interested in the progressive/socialist movement's history, that she wrote her thesis at Princeton University, and was titled “To the Final Conflict: Socialism in New York City, 1900-1933.”

In it she wrote ......... “In our own times, a coherent socialist movement is nowhere to be found in the United States.” This appears to be a comment on modern-day America, at least as it was in 1981.

Kagan’s verdict, of course, depends on how you define “socialist.” The modern socialist movement calls itself “progressive.”



But the history of the Progressive Party, which ran FDR’s former vice president Henry Wallace as its presidential candidate in 1948, really explains the underpinnings and the the current direction of the Democratic Party.



The Progressive Party was controlled by the Communist Party but efforts to work through the democratic process did not die out with its election defeat in 1948. Communists and “progressives” then targeted the Democratic Party for a takeover from within............. and they succeeded.




In reality, many Communist Party operatives were in control of the Progressive Party. Before it was even formed the Communist Party merged two of its front organizations, the National Citizens Political Action Committee (NC-PAC) and the Independent Citizens Committee of the Arts and Sciences, to form the Progressive Citizens of America (PCA), which became the organizing tool for the Wallace campaign.”


If you bothered to do a background check on Obama's former “Green Czar” , and now CNN political commentator Van Jones, you'd find out that was, and probably still is an anti-capitalist and avowed Communist Van Jones, who while in jail stated

"I met all these young radical people of color -- I mean really radical, communists and anarchists. And it was, like, 'This is what I need to be a part of. I spent the next ten years of my life working with a lot of those people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary. I was a rowdy nationalist on April 28th, and then the verdicts came down on April 29th By August, I was a communist."


And I'm just scratching the surface .......... if you really want to know, what you don't know, you need to inform yourself............ instead of taking what people like Van Jones in the left wing progressive mainstream media tell you what to think and say.

- D0PPELGANGER

Look buddy, nice essay. But this really has nothing to do with what I said. Like, actually nothing. Beyond you being a paranoid weirdo.
aschuter82
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Cypress Creek
Joined: 06.18.2010

Jun 30 @ 7:26 AM ET

- D0PPELGANGER

Your meme's are a waste of time, but yes, I agree Trudeau is a poopbag for pulling electoral reform off the table and using fear-mongering tactics to justify it.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Jun 30 @ 8:43 AM ET
Your meme's are a waste of time, but yes, I agree Trudeau is a poopbag for pulling electoral reform off the table and using fear-mongering tactics to justify it.
- aschuter82

It was a very disappointing swerve to say the least, he is not a great policy maker. Or keeper I suppose. Excellent politician however, that much is obvious from how foreign press perceives him.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jun 30 @ 8:50 AM ET
It was a very disappointing swerve to say the least, he is not a great policy maker. Or keeper I suppose. Excellent politician however, that much is obvious from how foreign press perceives him.
- Cape Breton Bruins




It's NOT Tru-D'Oh! who is an "excellent politician"....... it's his two top senior advisors, who used to work for both Dalton and Wynne ......... they're the brains behind this vacuous puppet of a PM.




Once he goes off script, it does not take long before he puts his foot in his mouth.



Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Jun 30 @ 9:23 AM ET
It's NOT Tru-D'Oh! who is an "excellent politician"....... it's his two top senior advisors, who used to work for both Dalton and Wynne ......... they're the brains behind this vacuous puppet of a PM.




Once he goes off script, it does not take long before he puts his foot in his mouth.




- D0PPELGANGER


Every thieving politician under the sun has handlers d00ps you buffoon. Including your knight in shining orange peelings.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 30 @ 9:25 AM ET
Every thieving politician under the sun has handlers d00ps you buffoon. Including your knight in shining orange peelings.
- Cape Breton Bruins

I must say, it looked like his pivot away from Trump almost worked there


Hey Dopps, care to expand on your earlier statement about obamacare?
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jun 30 @ 9:36 AM ET
Every thieving politician under the sun has handlers d00ps you buffoon. Including your knight in shining orange peelings.
- Cape Breton Bruins



I don't know how many times I have to remind people, with short memories, I was in favour of John Kasich for the GOP nominee ......... not DJT.


Just because I don't believe everything the left wing progressive mainstream media says, or gets upset about, when referencing the POTUS, does not make him "my" knight.........

I accept the reality of the day, and American elected DJT with all his warts and shortcomings......... and there are large segments of society that just can't accept that the progressives, as hard as they tried, did not win the election.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jun 30 @ 9:45 AM ET
I must say, it looked like his pivot away from Trump almost worked there


Hey Dopps, care to expand on your earlier statement about obamacare?

- Feeling Glucky?







https://www.forbes.com/si...-we-do-next/#64efca1971fc



http://time.com/money/447...obamacare-providers-2017/



http://www.webmd.com/heal...acare-premiums-for-2017#1



http://money.cnn.com/2016...acare-premiums/index.html



http://www.cnbc.com/2016/...ith-monthly-premiums.html



Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 30 @ 9:55 AM ET




https://www.forbes.com/si...-we-do-next/#64efca1971fc



http://time.com/money/447...obamacare-providers-2017/



http://www.webmd.com/heal...acare-premiums-for-2017#1



http://money.cnn.com/2016...acare-premiums/index.html



http://www.cnbc.com/2016/...ith-monthly-premiums.html

- D0PPELGANGER


So, an opinion piece with a sensationalist headline, and no facts, and then a whole bunch of other articles that don't mention what you said at all.

Good stuff.

Funny, coming from a person who recently asked "where's the proof?" for something with far more supporting evidence.
Monkey
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I've made a Hughes mistake!
Joined: 09.04.2006

Jun 30 @ 10:35 AM ET
I'm still waiting for that list of easily accessible jobs.
drew_doubty
Los Angeles Kings
Location: so know this...I am still talking to sources every day.
Joined: 06.25.2016

Jun 30 @ 10:41 AM ET
I'm still waiting for that list of easily accessible jobs.
- Monkey

He's the dumbest kind of dumb there is.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jun 30 @ 10:52 AM ET
I'm still waiting for that list of easily accessible jobs.
- Monkey

wait you post in non-PVO threads???????
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