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Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Sep 6 @ 4:19 PM ET
I have a lot a family that are Americans.
- D0PPELGANGER


a lot a family what
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Sep 6 @ 4:20 PM ET
I have a lot a family that are Americans.
- D0PPELGANGER

damn I thought they'd go further than that to escape your presence.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Sep 6 @ 4:20 PM ET
lol
- Cape Breton Bruins

i get it and all but it was like 2 posts after a colossal 20 cartoon obama post. you just gotta be smarter than that. know when something sounds stupid, you know.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Sep 6 @ 4:22 PM ET
Oh by the way .........




There are those in the immigrants’ rights community who have argued passionately that we should simply provide those who are [here] illegally with legal status, or at least ignore the laws on the books and put an end to deportation until we have better laws. ... I believe such an indiscriminate approach would be both unwise and unfair. It would suggest to those thinking about coming here illegally that there will be no repercussions for such a decision. And this could lead to a surge in more illegal immigration. And it would also ignore the millions of people around the world who are waiting in line to come here legally. Ultimately, our nation, like all nations, has the right and obligation to control its borders and set laws for residency and citizenship. And no matter how decent they are, no matter their reasons, the 11 million who broke these laws should be held accountable.





This wasn’t a quote from DJ Trump, or from Attorney General Sessions’ statement rescinding Obama’s executive DACA amnesty.

It was a part of a Barack Hussein Obama speech on immigration on July 1, 2010, two years before he decided to act contrarily to his own speech, and signed an executive order that was DACA
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Sep 6 @ 4:25 PM ET
any, of you ......... guys read that, last post?



is he suggesting it's real, or not?
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Sep 6 @ 4:33 PM ET
So you agree with the POTUS, and what he said in the excerpt of the speech I posted above.


So you also agree with the point made by Trump, in that it's up to Congress, and not an executive order, to reform the laws that govern immigration.


Never thought you'd ever agree with a Republican on anything.




I would suggest that young American adults, who are competing for the jobs that are being taken by illegal immigrants would benefit from rescinding DACA

- D0PPELGANGER


YES! Well, except there are no facts to back that up. Its the ultimate strawman argument.

Again, let's cut through all the bullpoop and look at the real issue at play here. The people who benefited from DACA were asked by the US government to come forward and register under the guise being that information would not be used against them. They did in good faith BECAUSE at its very essence, they are AMERICANS and more importantly, want to be.

To use that information to launch their asses out of a country that is pretty much all they know is (frank)ing criminal. As any rational person would view.

The reality is this shouldn't be too hard to rectify if the politicians have the (frank)ing balls to risk their cushy ass living and do the RIGHT (frank)ING THING.

Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Sep 6 @ 4:35 PM ET
damn I thought they'd go further than that to escape your presence.
- Cape Breton Bruins

OH poop!
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Sep 6 @ 4:35 PM ET
well you're losing again, dErps.


wouldn't it just be easier to (frank)ing kill yourself? i mean, it's not even a big deal. nobody is going to even notice you're gone. they probably won't find your body for weeks.
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Sep 6 @ 4:36 PM ET
*SIGH* Of course you do Dopps. Canada is part of the American continent you hood wearing twit.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 6 @ 5:48 PM ET
Oh by the way .........




There are those in the immigrants’ rights community who have argued passionately that we should simply provide those who are

- D0PPELGANGER[here] illegally with legal status, or at least ignore the laws on the books and put an end to deportation until we have better laws. ... I believe such an indiscriminate approach would be both unwise and unfair. It would suggest to those thinking about coming here illegally that there will be no repercussions for such a decision. And this could lead to a surge in more illegal immigration. And it would also ignore the millions of people around the world who are waiting in line to come here legally. Ultimately, our nation, like all nations, has the right and obligation to control its borders and set laws for residency and citizenship. And no matter how decent they are, no matter their reasons, the 11 million who broke these laws should be held accountable.






This wasn’t a quote from DJ Trump, or from Attorney General Sessions’ statement rescinding Obama’s executive DACA amnesty.

It was a part of a Barack Hussein Obama speech on immigration on July 1, 2010, two years before he decided to act contrarily to his own speech, and signed an executive order that was DACA





You tried to lay some bait, it failed, but you still want credit for it.

Now go back and read my post, and you'll see that this had nothing to do with DACA, and isn't in direct contradiction at all.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 6 @ 5:49 PM ET
So you agree with the POTUS, and what he said in the excerpt of the speech I posted above.


So you also agree with the point made by Trump, in that it's up to Congress, and not an executive order, to reform the laws that govern immigration.


Never thought you'd ever agree with a Republican on anything.




I would suggest that young American adults, who are competing for the jobs that are being taken by illegal immigrants would benefit from rescinding DACA

- D0PPELGANGER

I guess I agree with Obama, not Trump!
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Sep 6 @ 6:01 PM ET
Annnd trump just made a huge split with the GOP.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 6 @ 6:21 PM ET
Annnd trump just made a huge split with the GOP.
- Gramps28

Interesting. The pod save America guys were just talking about how Trump cares more about "wins" than party lines.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 6 @ 6:24 PM ET
Annnd trump just made a huge split with the GOP.
- Gramps28

So what are the arguments for/against raising the debt limit for only 3 months?
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Sep 6 @ 7:03 PM ET
Interesting. The pod save America guys were just talking about how Trump cares more about "wins" than party lines.
- Feeling Glucky?

in this case, the only win is funds for hurricane harvey relief. making money available for recovery quicker. in a way he sort of saved the GOP from itself. no one would be happy with either party using those funds as a political pawn. its more complicated than that obviously but at the crux of this action, that is the main point.
with another hurricane bearing down on Florida, it isn't the time to Richard around with government shutdown games.
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Sep 6 @ 7:06 PM ET
So what are the arguments for/against raising the debt limit for only 3 months?
- Feeling Glucky?


it doesn't really solve anything. it just defers action. like i stated in the above post, the positive is it allows the government to function in the face of one disaster with a possible second one ready to do even more damage.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Sep 6 @ 7:13 PM ET
Deletions have occurred
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Sep 6 @ 7:16 PM ET
Deletions have occurred
- PhillySportsGuy

hmm
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Sep 6 @ 7:19 PM ET
hmm
- twiztedmike

i think it was just dippoop when he deleted a vid he posted.

guy should delete all his posts.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Sep 6 @ 7:20 PM ET
i think it was just dippoop when he deleted a vid he posted.

guy should delete all his posts.

- kicksave856

mmmmm hmmmmmm
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Sep 6 @ 7:23 PM ET
Oh by the way .........


- D0PPELGANGER

President Obama issued the order known as DACA (“deferred action on childhood arrivals”) in 2012 after failing to achieve his hopes of a broader amnesty. Obama himself had repeatedly denounced the concept as beyond presidential power. To quote only one example, from July 2010:

There are those in the immigrants’ rights community who have argued passionately that we should simply provide those who are [here] illegally with legal status, or at least ignore the laws on the books and put an end to deportation until we have better laws ... I believe such an indiscriminate approach would be both unwise and unfair. It would suggest to those thinking about coming here illegally that there will be no repercussions for such a decision. And this could lead to a surge in more illegal immigration. And it would also ignore the millions of people around the world who are waiting in line to come here legally. Ultimately, our nation, like all nations, has the right and obligation to control its borders and set laws for residency and citizenship. And no matter how decent they are, no matter their reasons, the 11 million who broke these laws should be held accountable.

Back when he made those remarks, Obama was hoping to pass a statute, the "Dream Act,” that would fully legalize the people ultimately protected by DACA. But the Dream Act stalled in the new Republican Congress elected in November 2010. Negotiations with Republican leaders to produce a more comprehensive immigration reform failed.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 6 @ 7:47 PM ET
President Obama issued the order known as DACA (“deferred action on childhood arrivals”) in 2012 after failing to achieve his hopes of a broader amnesty. Obama himself had repeatedly denounced the concept as beyond presidential power. To quote only one example, from July 2010:

There are those in the immigrants’ rights community who have argued passionately that we should simply provide those who are

- twiztedmike[here] illegally with legal status, or at least ignore the laws on the books and put an end to deportation until we have better laws ... I believe such an indiscriminate approach would be both unwise and unfair. It would suggest to those thinking about coming here illegally that there will be no repercussions for such a decision. And this could lead to a surge in more illegal immigration. And it would also ignore the millions of people around the world who are waiting in line to come here legally. Ultimately, our nation, like all nations, has the right and obligation to control its borders and set laws for residency and citizenship. And no matter how decent they are, no matter their reasons, the 11 million who broke these laws should be held accountable.

Back when he made those remarks, Obama was hoping to pass a statute, the "Dream Act,” that would fully legalize the people ultimately protected by DACA. But the Dream Act stalled in the new Republican Congress elected in November 2010. Negotiations with Republican leaders to produce a more comprehensive immigration reform failed.



The republican congress since they've had a majority, has basically done what they can to ensure nothing gets passed, and then complains when they're circumvented. And now that they have complete control, they have no idea how to get poop done, because the only thing that's been uniting them until now has been saying "no" to Obama.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 6 @ 7:48 PM ET
i think it was just dippoop when he deleted a vid he posted.

guy should delete all his posts.

- kicksave856

How racist did it look?
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 6 @ 7:53 PM ET
I don't think he said anything wrong
- Feeling Glucky?

bump


man that elaborate trap really did backfire spectacularly
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Sep 6 @ 8:54 PM ET
How racist did it look?
- Feeling Glucky?

lol
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