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Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 6 @ 3:46 PM ET
Part of speech By the POTUS

There are those in the immigrants’ rights community who have argued passionately that we should simply provide those who are

- D0PPELGANGER[here] illegally with legal status, or at least ignore the laws on the books and put an end to deportation until we have better laws. ... I believe such an indiscriminate approach would be both unwise and unfair. It would suggest to those thinking about coming here illegally that there will be no repercussions for such a decision. And this could lead to a surge in more illegal immigration. And it would also ignore the millions of people around the world who are waiting in line to come here legally. Ultimately, our nation, like all nations, has the right and obligation to control its borders and set laws for residency and citizenship. And no matter how decent they are, no matter their reasons, the 11 million who broke these laws should be held accountable.


Except the people covered by DACA were brought here, they didn't come of their own volition, and now they're facing deportation in as little as six months, to countries they have no family in, have no memory of, and where they need a language they may not even know.

As Obama said, they're American in every way, except for their papers.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Sep 6 @ 3:49 PM ET
Except the people covered by DACA were brought here, they didn't come of their own volition, and now they're facing deportation in as little as six months, to countries they have no family in, have no memory of, and where they need a language they may not even know.

As Obama said, they're American in every way, except for their papers.

- Feeling Glucky?



But what about the (quoted) Speech from the POTUS? Did he get something wrong, or do you just disagree with him?
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Sep 6 @ 3:50 PM ET
Except the people covered by DACA were brought here, they didn't come of their own volition, and now they're facing deportation in as little as six months, to countries they have no family in, have no memory of, and where they need a language they may not even know.

As Obama said, they're American in every way, except for their papers.

- Feeling Glucky?

i like that you're disregarding facts.
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Sep 6 @ 3:53 PM ET
You're entitled to your opinion........... but you're also disregarding the fact that DACA is about to expire, and the other fact is that Immigration reform/law is not in the purview of a single person, the POTUS in this case ........... Congress is responsible for Immigration and Immigration law reform .......... so as far as I can see, it's up to Congress to do the right thing and settle this issue, one way or another .............. kicking the can down the road, like your boy Obama did, is not the way to solve this issue.
- D0PPELGANGER

And most importantly, you're not taking into account the amount of time, money and resources it would take to track down, house for a time, and eventually deport millions of people.

its a (frank)ing waste of resources to pander to a small percentage of Americans who are afraid the jobs they have no interest in will be lost. Its a (frank)ing non-issue in the larger scope of things that need to be addressed.

Basically the only ones who care are racists, Let's call it what it is and not hide behind the rule of law bullpoop from a Administration that has been in violation of the Constitution it claims to give two (frank)ing poops about.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Sep 6 @ 3:55 PM ET
And most importantly, you're not taking into account the amount of time, money and resources it would take to track down, house for a time, and eventually deport millions of people.

its a (frank)ing waste of resources to pander to a small percentage of Americans who are afraid the jobs they have no interest in will be lost. Its a (frank)ing non-issue in the larger scope of things that need to be addressed.

Basically the only ones who care are racists, Let's call it what it is and not hide behind the rule of law bullpoop from a Administration that has been in violation of the Constitution it claims to give two (frank)ing poops about.

- Gramps28

but he got to call obama "your boy" for the second time today so it's a big win for him.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Sep 6 @ 3:56 PM ET
i like that you're disregarding facts.
- kicksave856




So do you agree or disagree with the excerpt for the Speech (above) made by the POTUS?




The children who were brought by their parents, into the USA illegally, are not Americans, as they were neither born in the USA, or were born of American Citizens.

This whole thing is a mess, and it should have been taken care of a long long time ago, and both parties, and a number of Presidents are to blame for letting it get to be a much better mess today ............... DACA was not and is not the answer ....... Congress must pass immigration reform, and end this issue one way or another.


As far as I'm concerned, the young, educated adults who are covered by DACA should apply to immigrate to Canada ............ they would be perfect additions to Canada, and would contribute to Canada right away.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
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Joined: 11.26.2008

Sep 6 @ 3:59 PM ET
And most importantly, you're not taking into account the amount of time, money and resources it would take to track down, house for a time, and eventually deport millions of people.

its a (frank)ing waste of resources to pander to a small percentage of Americans who are afraid the jobs they have no interest in will be lost. Its a (frank)ing non-issue in the larger scope of things that need to be addressed.

Basically the only ones who care are racists, Let's call it what it is and not hide behind the rule of law bullpoop from a Administration that has been in violation of the Constitution it claims to give two (frank)ing poops about.

- Gramps28

boom baby
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Sep 6 @ 3:59 PM ET
So do you agree or disagree with the excerpt for the Speech (above) made by the POTUS?




The children who were brought by their parents, into the USA illegally, are not Americans, as they were neither born in the USA, or were born of American Citizens.

This whole thing is a mess, and it should have been taken care of a long long time ago, and both parties, and a number of Presidents are to blame for letting it get to be a much better mess today ............... DACA was not and is not the answer ....... Congress must pass immigration reform, and end this issue one way or another.


As far as I'm concerned, the young, educated adults who are covered by DACA should apply to immigrate to Canada ............ they would be perfect additions to Canada, and would contribute to Canada right away.

- D0PPELGANGER

yeah let me get into a political conversation with a retarded zealot.

let me guess, the fact that you're an bumhole means i brought nothing to the table?


Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 6 @ 4:00 PM ET
You're entitled to your opinion........... but you're also disregarding the fact that DACA is about to expire, and the other fact is that Immigration reform/law is not in the purview of a single person, the POTUS in this case ........... Congress is responsible for Immigration and Immigration law reform .......... so as far as I can see, it's up to Congress to do the right thing and settle this issue, one way or another .............. kicking the can down the road, like your boy Obama did, is not the way to solve this issue.
- D0PPELGANGER

The president can absolutely use his executive authority in the way Obama did, unless you can find something in the constitution that says otherwise. Obama didn't "kick the can down the road"... he kept a group of people who did nothing wrong safe from deportation, while congress gets it's poop together. Perhaps if republicans were willing to actually participate in the political process, and didn't spend 8 years trying to obstruct everything Obama tried to do, the country would be in a better situation than it is now.

But hey, at least they're showing that they actually had a plan all along, right?



With regards to the bolded, how am I disregarding that?
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Sep 6 @ 4:00 PM ET
also it's amazing that you think i clicked your vid. you truly are learning disabled.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Sep 6 @ 4:02 PM ET
oh, man. it looks like you're getting crushed again too.

man, i'm noticing a pattern. it's like every time you open your mouth.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Sep 6 @ 4:03 PM ET
dErp REPEAT dErp REPEAT dErp REPEAT..
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Sep 6 @ 4:06 PM ET
dErp!


EDIT: what happened to the vid you deleted? did it turn out to be satire? did you not know if it was real? (oh wait, that wouldn't have stopped you)

was it that list of easily obtainable jobs??!?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 6 @ 4:10 PM ET
But what about the (quoted) Speech from the POTUS? Did he get something wrong, or do you just disagree with him?
- D0PPELGANGER

I don't think he said anything wrong, I think you're just trying to do your typical strawman poop.

DACA doesn't stop someone from being an illegal immigrant, it's amnesty for people who had a choice made for them - and it's a privilege they need to keep earning, while they, with help from congress, find a path to citizenship.

It allows them to be increasingly valuable members of US society, and improve the economy.

Tell me - outside of making excuses for the toddler in chief - who benefits from getting rid of DACA? How does doing this improve the USA?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 6 @ 4:11 PM ET
And most importantly, you're not taking into account the amount of time, money and resources it would take to track down, house for a time, and eventually deport millions of people.

its a (frank)ing waste of resources to pander to a small percentage of Americans who are afraid the jobs they have no interest in will be lost. Its a (frank)ing non-issue in the larger scope of things that need to be addressed.

Basically the only ones who care are racists, Let's call it what it is and not hide behind the rule of law bullpoop from a Administration that has been in violation of the Constitution it claims to give two (frank)ing poops about.

- Gramps28

yerp
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Sep 6 @ 4:12 PM ET
yerp
- Feeling Glucky?

yErp
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Sep 6 @ 4:13 PM ET
I don't think he said anything wrong, I think you're just trying to do your typical strawman poop.

DACA doesn't stop someone from being an illegal immigrant, it's amnesty for people who had a choice made for them - and it's a privilege they need to keep earning, while they, with help from congress, find a path to citizenship.

It allows them to be increasingly valuable members of US society, and improve the economy.

Tell me - outside of making excuses for the toddler in chief - who benefits from getting rid of DACA? How does doing this improve the USA?

- Feeling Glucky?

d00ps?
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Sep 6 @ 4:14 PM ET
I don't think he said anything wrong, I think you're just trying to do your typical strawman poop.

DACA doesn't stop someone from being an illegal immigrant, it's amnesty for people who had a choice made for them - and it's a privilege they need to keep earning, while they, with help from congress, find a path to citizenship.

It allows them to be increasingly valuable members of US society, and improve the economy.

Tell me - outside of making excuses for the toddler in chief - who benefits from getting rid of DACA? How does doing this improve the USA?

- Feeling Glucky?




So you agree with the POTUS, and what he said in the excerpt of the speech I posted above.


So you also agree with the point made by Trump, in that it's up to Congress, and not an executive order, to reform the laws that govern immigration.


Never thought you'd ever agree with a Republican on anything.




I would suggest that young American adults, who are competing for the jobs that are being taken by illegal immigrants would benefit from rescinding DACA
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Sep 6 @ 4:14 PM ET
So you agree with the POTUS, and what he said in the excerpt of the speech I posted above.


So you also agree with the point made by Trump, in that it's up to Congress, and not an executive order, to reform the laws that govern immigration.


Never thought you'd ever agree with a Republican on anything.

- D0PPELGANGER

You're from Canada, guy.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 6 @ 4:15 PM ET
So you agree with the POTUS, and what he said in the excerpt of the speech I posted above.


So you also agree with the point made by Trump, in that it's up to Congress, and not an executive order, to reform the laws that govern immigration.


Never thought you'd ever agree with a Republican on anything.

- D0PPELGANGER


Congratulations on not answering the question.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Sep 6 @ 4:15 PM ET
Congratulations on not answering the question.
- BINGO!

again
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Sep 6 @ 4:16 PM ET
You're from Canada, guy.
- Cape Breton Bruins

he also once said he doesn't worry about things that are out of his control.

like an election he can't vote in in a country he doesn't live in.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Sep 6 @ 4:18 PM ET
You're from Canada, guy.
- Cape Breton Bruins



I have a lot a family that are Americans.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Sep 6 @ 4:18 PM ET
he also once said he doesn't worry about things that are out of his control.

like an election he can't vote in in a country he doesn't live in.

- kicksave856

lol
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Sep 6 @ 4:19 PM ET
I have a lot a family that are Americans.
- D0PPELGANGER

pretty sure they wish you'd stop telling people.
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