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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Aug 7 @ 7:40 AM ET
from 2010............

The cost of harboring illegal immigrants in the United States is a staggering $113 billion a year -- an average of $1,117 for every “native-headed” household in America -- according to a study conducted by the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR).

- D0PPELGANGER


This was debunked by Politifact

Trump said, "Illegal immigration costs our country more than $113 billion a year."

Trump presented this figure as a hard fact to make his case, and not as the rough, high-end estimate that it is.

The figure matches a 2013 study by a group that wants to reduce immigration, FAIR.

It’s uncertain how much immigrants in the United States illegally cost taxpayers, but FAIR’s data is largely based on broad estimates and assumptions. Another report by a conservative think tank pegged the amount at about $85 billion a year. Reports by pro-immigration or neutral groups have come in significantly lower, and other reports have been inconclusive.

Estimating the costs of illegal immigration is extremely difficult and produces dramatically different figures, depending on the source. Yes, there are costs. But Trump is selecting the highest of all possible estimates from a range that varies widely.

We rate Trump’s statement Mostly False.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
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Aug 7 @ 8:31 AM ET
This was debunked by Politifact
- PhillySportsGuy

hmm. shocking.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
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Aug 7 @ 8:51 AM ET
hmm. shocking.
- kicksave856

Trump got caught tweeting in reference to a CNN segment today. You know? The Channel he never watches lol.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
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Aug 7 @ 8:59 AM ET
Trump got caught tweeting in reference to a CNN segment today. You know? The Channel he never watches lol.
- Cape Breton Bruins

lol
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
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Aug 7 @ 4:22 PM ET
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
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Aug 7 @ 4:40 PM ET
Caper Take:

Nixon accomplished a lot of pretty good things that get overshadowed because of Water Gayte.

1. Opening China
2. Creating of the EPA
3. Signed the ABM treaty with the Soviets
4. Ended the Draft
5. Signed an anti Gender bias law for Collegiate activities
6. Allocated $100m for the War on Cancer
7. Oversaw Every successful moon landing while in office
8. Lowered the Voting age from 21 to 18
9. First President to give Native Americans right to Tribal Self Determination

kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
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Aug 7 @ 4:47 PM ET
Caper Take:

Nixon accomplished a lot of pretty good things that get overshadowed because of Water Gayte.

1. Opening China
2. Creating of the EPA
3. Signed the ABM treaty with the Soviets
4. Ended the Draft
5. Signed an anti Gender bias law for Collegiate activities
6. Allocated $100m for the War on Cancer
7. Oversaw Every successful moon landing while in office
8. Lowered the Voting age from 21 to 18
9. First President to give Native Americans right to Tribal Self Determination

- Cape Breton Bruins

D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
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Joined: 05.06.2015

Aug 7 @ 4:48 PM ET
Top 10 Ronald Reagan Accomplishments

1. Ending the Cold War.

2. Reaganomics: Reagan’s mix of across-the-board tax cuts, deregulation, and domestic spending restraint helped fuel an economic boom that lasted two decades. Reagan inherited a misery index (the sum of the inflation and unemployment rates) of 19.99%, and when he left office it had dropped to 9.72%. President Obama take note: Under Reaganomics, 16 million new jobs were created.

3. Revitalizing the GOP and the conservative movement..

4. Peace through Strength: The military was diminished during the Carter years, but Reagan reversed that by rebuilding the armed forces. His Peace Through Strength philosophy was manifested by his reviving the B-1 bomber that Carter canceled, starting production of the MX missile, and pushing NATO to deploy Pershing missiles in West Germany. He increased defense spending by more than 40%, increased troop levels, and even got much-needed space parts into the pipeline. Those efforts ensured that America remained a military superpower.

5. Morning in America: It was basically a slogan for Reagan’s 1984 reelection bid, but Morning in America symbolized a new beginning for the country. Reagan’s jaunty optimism and an economic boom was a much-needed tonic for a country that had experienced the malaise of the Carter years and the traumas of Watergate and Vietnam.

6. Star Wars: Reagan’s Strategic Defense Initiative was derided by his opponents as being technologically unfeasible, but the mere threat of the U.S. building the system was instrumental in the Soviet Union’s collapse. The successful use of Patriot missile batteries in the first Gulf War proved the critics wrong, and the missile defense system that ensued has lessened the threat of ballistic missiles.

7. Nuclear weapons cuts: Even as massive demonstrations were held in Europe against Reagan’s hawkish stance on nuclear arms, the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) treaty he signed with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev eliminated an entire class of nuclear weapons. He also laid the framework with Gorbachev for the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START), which reduced both countries’ arsenals of nuclear weapons.

8. Voiced values: Reagan gave voice to the values that had served America well—thrift, patriotism, and hard work—and often recounted the wisdom of the Founding Fathers. He also championed the causes of the pro-life and family-values movements that sought to counter the societal upheavals of the 1960s and 1970s.

9. Tax reform: Not only did he cut tax rates, but the Tax Reform Act of 1986 simplified the income-tax code by eliminating many tax shelters, reducing the number of deductions and tax brackets. Reagan’s dream of tax returns fitting on a postcard has been nullified as Congress has regressed and continued to make the tax code more complex, necessitating a new push for reform.

10. Taking on PATCO: Early in his administration, members of the federal air traffic controllers union (PATCO) went on strike, violating a federal regulation. Declaring the strike a “peril to national safety,” Reagan gave the workers an ultimatum and ended up firing more than 11,000 of the controllers, sending a strong signal that union workers needn’t be coddled.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
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Aug 7 @ 4:49 PM ET
great job, caper.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
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Aug 7 @ 4:51 PM ET
great job, caper.
- kicksave856



I found your hat

kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
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Aug 7 @ 4:52 PM ET
I found your hat


- D0PPELGANGER

keep trotting it out, loser.
Cape Breton Bruins
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Aug 7 @ 5:29 PM ET
great job, caper.
- kicksave856



idle time my man
Cape Breton Bruins
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Aug 7 @ 5:29 PM ET

- kicksave856

LOL
Cape Breton Bruins
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Aug 7 @ 5:31 PM ET
Nixon > Reagan
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Aug 7 @ 6:08 PM ET
Nixon > Reagan
- Cape Breton Bruins


Reagan is the most overrated president in the history of this country
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
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Aug 7 @ 6:16 PM ET
Reagan is the most overrated president in the history of this country
- PhillySportsGuy

I feel that way as well.
TheCat29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.23.2012

Aug 7 @ 7:00 PM ET
Reagan is the most overrated president in the history of this country
- PhillySportsGuy


Trickle down, bro
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
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Aug 7 @ 7:35 PM ET

fairness doctrine repeal was the start of the poopshow we have now
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
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Aug 7 @ 7:49 PM ET
seems like dumbass hit another home run.
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
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Aug 7 @ 8:04 PM ET
Reagan is the most overrated president in the history of this country
- PhillySportsGuy

Kennedy,

(frank)ing guy couldnt even finish one term
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
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Aug 7 @ 8:11 PM ET
Kennedy,

(frank)ing guy couldnt even finish one term

- watsonnostaw

lol
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
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Joined: 07.09.2014

Aug 7 @ 8:27 PM ET
Trickle down, bro
- TheCat29

Not to mention the de-regulation of the trucking industry was a huge mess and still is to this day.
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
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Aug 7 @ 8:32 PM ET
Not to mention the de-regulation of the trucking industry was a huge mess and still is to this day.
- Gramps28

Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
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Aug 7 @ 9:23 PM ET
Kennedy,

(frank)ing guy couldnt even finish one term

- watsonnostaw

watsonnostaw
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Aug 7 @ 10:07 PM ET
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