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Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Nov 4 @ 3:07 PM ET
Isn't that the "dull" section of the Hero chart?
- buffalofan19



This would be the extreme of the dull section in the shot chart. Its unlikely that trend continues but i found it really odd considering it was mccabe and franson.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Nov 4 @ 3:07 PM ET
Credit where its due, the number of high danger scoring chances against has dropped drastically.

I saw it out there somewhere but when mccabe and franson have been on the ice there have only been 5 scoring chances going either way. Seriously you'd think the puck was just sitting in the neutral zone that whole time but thats pretty good defensively...i think.

- Sabresfan-365


I've noticed in a lot of games (not just ours, but league wide) the amount of time teams spend just trying to get through the neutral zone has been crazy.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Nov 4 @ 3:07 PM ET
hahahaha... I actually brought this up a couple days ago.... I think we are underrated. I don't think we are elite by any means but as a collective team they are doing well.

and Risto is turning into a monster out there, I hope he can keep the upward trend going... he has been fantastic this year.

- gordong



Underrated ? This team is just meh
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Nov 4 @ 3:09 PM ET
Underrated ? This team is just meh
- GERBE!!!75PTS



I think they are doing pretty well for not having there #1 and #4 top goal scorers from last year.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Nov 4 @ 3:10 PM ET
I've noticed in a lot of games (not just ours, but league wide) the amount of time teams spend just trying to get through the neutral zone has been crazy.
- HonkFortheGoose


I give GMTM plenty of crap but a while ago he mentioned something that was absolutely money. Simply put, the offence hasn't caught up to the defence in terms of coaching. Its quite similar to when zone defence became a huge thing in basketball.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Nov 4 @ 3:12 PM ET
I think they are doing pretty well for not having there #1 and #4 top goal scorers from last year.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo


And that's the scary part it shows we can't draft very well IMO
to know that our season could be over with with just one player out it's not good at all
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Nov 4 @ 3:16 PM ET
And that's the scary part it shows we can't draft very well IMO
to know that our season could be over with with just one player out it's not good at all

- GERBE!!!75PTS


But they've played well (well enough) without him so...? That kind of loss would be big on just about any team in the league so i dont really know what you're getting at. If you were going to highlight an example of poor drafting it would have to be when they're healthy but not playing well.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Nov 4 @ 3:21 PM ET
And that's the scary part it shows we can't draft very well IMO
to know that our season could be over with with just one player out it's not good at all

- GERBE!!!75PTS


We haven't even gotten through 1 month of the season yet. We're not in last place in the conference, let alone the league. We're 6th in the league in goals against, and that's without our #1 goaltender for 3 of the 10 games.

You really need to settle down.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Nov 4 @ 3:34 PM ET
And that's the scary part it shows we can't draft very well IMO
to know that our season could be over with with just one player out it's not good at all

- GERBE!!!75PTS

Down 3 atm and doing OK . Not great but ok
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Nov 4 @ 3:34 PM ET
Underrated ? This team is just meh
- GERBE!!!75PTS



Just Meh?

Top point players in NHL (filtered to show players Sabres faced)

3. McDavid - 13 pts (0 points vs Sabres)
6. Giroux - 13 pts (1 assist vs Sabres)
7. Simmonds - 12 points (1 assist vs Sabres)
8. Marchessault - 12 Points (0 points vs Sabres)
15. Voracek - 11 points (0 points vs Sabres)
19. Nylander - 11 points (0 points vs Sabres)
21. Matthews - 10 points (0 points vs Sabres)
24. Shea Weber - 10 points (1 assist vs Sabres)
27. Galchenyuk - 10 points (1 assist vs Sabres)
28. Ryan Suter - 10 points (1 goal, 1 assist vs Sabres)
34. Frolik - 9 points (1 goal vs Sabres)
36. Scheifele - 9 points (0 points vs Sabres)
38. Gallagher - 9 points (2 goals vs Sabres)
42. Streit - 9 points (1 goal, 2 assists vs Sabres)

So the top 14 guys that have played the Sabres have a total of 4 goals, 7 assists.

They average 0.957 points per game (each), played a total of 15 games (played Minnesota twice, Suter) for an average of 0.73 points per game.

That looks pretty good to me! I would not say the D is meh, but pretty good. Underrated would imply we were expected to be a lot worse and I think that term fits well here. Now it is a small sample size, but you can say that about anyone drawing any stats year-to-date.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Nov 4 @ 3:36 PM ET
From the last blog:

And next week is election week. Im going to build myself a Bunker next week and unplug the TV.

Good thing i have a lot of beer.

- ImThatGuy


My building has a doctor, a diesel mechanic, and me, a smartass know-it-all. We're all good for the apocalypse.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Nov 4 @ 3:36 PM ET
We haven't even gotten through 1 month of the season yet. We're not in last place in the conference, let alone the league. We're 6th in the league in goals against, and that's without our #1 goaltender for 3 of the 10 games.

You really need to settle down.

- HonkFortheGoose


OK but I look at the bigger picture Who are the people that are going to be here for the future ? It isn't molasses or fossil or Kane etc it's about the young guys that's what I watch every night because those guys are our future not those guys they won't be here . I haven't seen one young guy yet that has stepped up and said damn we might have a gem on her hands but yet the flyers and leafs have these young guys stepping in and producing
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Nov 4 @ 3:37 PM ET
Just Meh?

Top point players in NHL (filtered to show players Sabres faced)

3. McDavid - 13 pts (0 points vs Sabres)
6. Giroux - 13 pts (1 assist vs Sabres)
7. Simmonds - 12 points (1 assist vs Sabres)
8. Marchessault - 12 Points (0 points vs Sabres)
15. Voracek - 11 points (0 points vs Sabres)
19. Nylander - 11 points (0 points vs Sabres)
21. Matthews - 10 points (0 points vs Sabres)
24. Shea Weber - 10 points (1 assist vs Sabres)
27. Galchenyuk - 10 points (1 assist vs Sabres)
28. Ryan Suter - 10 points (1 goal, 1 assist vs Sabres)
34. Frolik - 9 points (1 goal vs Sabres)
36. Scheifele - 9 points (0 points vs Sabres)
38. Gallagher - 9 points (2 goals vs Sabres)
42. Streit - 9 points (1 goal, 2 assists vs Sabres)

So the top 14 guys that have played the Sabres have a total of 4 goals, 7 assists.

They average 0.957 points per game (each), played a total of 15 games (played Minnesota twice, Suter) for an average of 0.73 points per game.

That looks pretty good to me! I would not say the D is meh, but pretty good. Underrated would imply we were expected to be a lot worse and I think that term fits well here. Now it is a small sample size, but you can say that about anyone drawing any stats year-to-date.

- Lilroot9

Good work
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Nov 4 @ 3:39 PM ET
Just Meh?

Top point players in NHL (filtered to show players Sabres faced)

3. McDavid - 13 pts (0 points vs Sabres)
6. Giroux - 13 pts (1 assist vs Sabres)
7. Simmonds - 12 points (1 assist vs Sabres)
8. Marchessault - 12 Points (0 points vs Sabres)
15. Voracek - 11 points (0 points vs Sabres)
19. Nylander - 11 points (0 points vs Sabres)
21. Matthews - 10 points (0 points vs Sabres)
24. Shea Weber - 10 points (1 assist vs Sabres)
27. Galchenyuk - 10 points (1 assist vs Sabres)
28. Ryan Suter - 10 points (1 goal, 1 assist vs Sabres)
34. Frolik - 9 points (1 goal vs Sabres)
36. Scheifele - 9 points (0 points vs Sabres)
38. Gallagher - 9 points (2 goals vs Sabres)
42. Streit - 9 points (1 goal, 2 assists vs Sabres)

So the top 14 guys that have played the Sabres have a total of 4 goals, 7 assists.

They average 0.957 points per game (each), played a total of 15 games (played Minnesota twice, Suter) for an average of 0.73 points per game.

That looks pretty good to me! I would not say the D is meh, but pretty good. Underrated would imply we were expected to be a lot worse and I think that term fits well here. Now it is a small sample size, but you can say that about anyone drawing any stats year-to-date.

- Lilroot9


Nonsense, Reinhart is a bust.
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Nov 4 @ 3:40 PM ET
Good work
- cabin


Thanks but I miss counted (must be Friday), all those guys had 5 goals not 4. Damn Gallagher. haha
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Nov 4 @ 3:40 PM ET
From the last blog:



My building has a doctor, a diesel mechanic, and me, a smartass know-it-all. We're all good for the apocalypse.

- Wetbandit1


Is that you ?

Edit : and I just got back from Mighty. Quesadilla w/ground beef and a might taco hard shell
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Nov 4 @ 3:46 PM ET
Defensively this team is holding its own, surprisingly I might add.

Offensively this team is just meh, which was kind of expected without Eichel and Kane.

For junior meh is exactly what they need to do until Eichel and Kane are back...

You're not ready, I am not sure if you'll ever be.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Nov 4 @ 3:46 PM ET
OK but I look at the bigger picture Who are the people that are going to be here for the future ? It isn't molasses or fossil or Kane etc it's about the young guys that's what I watch every night because those guys are our future not those guys they won't be here . I haven't seen one young guy yet that has stepped up and said damn we might have a gem on her hands but yet the flyers and leafs have these young guys stepping in and producing
- GERBE!!!75PTS


Good thing the future isn't now then, or we'd be (frank)ed. Relax a little bit. The only high picks we have are Reinhart 2, who is not nearly as bad this year as some people on here are saying, and Eichel 2, who is hurt and hasn't played, and Risto 8, is a beast. Toronto has Matthews 1, Marner 4, Nylander 8, and Rielly was 5. And they're, aside from Matthews, older than our guys, so they should be making more of an impact.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 4 @ 3:48 PM ET
Defensively this team is holding its own, surprisingly I might add.

Offensively this team is just meh, which was kind of expected without Eichel and Kane.

For junior meh is exactly what they need to do until Eichel and Kane are back...

You're not ready, I am not sure if you'll ever be.

- Stripes77

They need to score more
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Nov 4 @ 3:48 PM ET
Good thing the future isn't now then, or we'd be (frank)ed. Relax a little bit. The only high picks we have are Reinhart 2, who is not nearly as bad this year as some people on here are saying, and Eichel 2, who is hurt and hasn't played, and Risto 8, is a beast. Toronto has Matthews 1, Marner 4, Nylander 8, and Rielly was 5. And they're, aside from Matthews, older than our guys, so they should be making more of an impact.
- Wetbandit1

We also have a Nylander 8
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Nov 4 @ 3:48 PM ET
Nonsense, Reinhart is a bust.

- Wetbandit1


At this point I would say he is not a generational talent (did anyone think he was?) but a great player that needs to play with other great players to get lots of points.

His skills are valued as the guy to feed other great players with chances. He is not playing great right now, but he did make the O'Reilly / Okoposo Line way better. They had more points with him on their line then when they were with anyone else. Now the coach can't stack a line, but I think Ennis, Girgensons have had many great chances to score and are not. Not placing blame on others, but that is Reinhart's strength (supplying players with great scoring chances, but they need to score on them).

Yes, I do know you were being sarcastic. It just bothers me the people think this guy is garbage in his 2nd (full) year at 20-21 years old. Looking at that draft though, did anyone think he would be a complete stud? (really only Ekblad was view that way, rightfully so). We took the best player available (for his entire career, in my opinion of course, which is yet to be seen). So remember that Reinhart is horrible when he makes amazing passes to spring Eichel, O'Reilly, Okposo for great chances (GOALS!). That is his strength. They can all score on their own for sure, but they will have higher totals with Reinhart on their lines.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Nov 4 @ 3:49 PM ET
They need to score more
- homiedclown



Agreed. Which should changed when Kane and Eichel are back.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Nov 4 @ 3:50 PM ET
OK but I look at the bigger picture Who are the people that are going to be here for the future ? It isn't molasses or fossil or Kane etc it's about the young guys that's what I watch every night because those guys are our future not those guys they won't be here . I haven't seen one young guy yet that has stepped up and said damn we might have a gem on her hands but yet the flyers and leafs have these young guys stepping in and producing
- GERBE!!!75PTS


Reading this hurt my head.....
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Nov 4 @ 3:51 PM ET
OK but I look at the bigger picture Who are the people that are going to be here for the future ? It isn't molasses or fossil or Kane etc it's about the young guys that's what I watch every night because those guys are our future not those guys they won't be here . I haven't seen one young guy yet that has stepped up and said damn we might have a gem on her hands but yet the flyers and leafs have these young guys stepping in and producing
- GERBE!!!75PTS



So ROR and Okposo aren't in the future plans?
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Nov 4 @ 3:52 PM ET
Is that you ?

Edit : and I just got back from Mighty. Quesadilla w/ground beef and a might taco hard shell

- cabin


Hey, I know what I see when I look in the mirror:



A ground beef quesadilla doesn't sound very good, maybe a steak one. Love the hard shell mighty's I usually get 2 hard shell mighty's ground beef, no tomato, small sour cream, hot(they seem to have backed off a bit on drowning the tacos in sauce which is nice). I had a steak panini from Tim Horton's today. Gotta say I was disappointed, they changed the rolls, now it's on sourdough sliced bread and there was like no steak on it at all. Should've gotten the turkey club.
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