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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 31 @ 12:06 AM ET
the drops, another fumble, scared to throw the ball past the LOS....(frank) this
- Nucker101


We know our WRs suck, so that's not on him. Putting in an ice cold rookie Rb for his first snap in the 4th on a fumble...that's him. The mind boggling dumb inability to call anything down field, even two (frank)ing yards, is why they lost. Dak was taking shots, but Carson can't throw anything beyond the LOS?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 31 @ 12:07 AM ET
i can't wait until agholor is cut from this team
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 31 @ 12:08 AM ET
We know our WRs suck, so that's not on him. Putting in an ice cold rookie Rb for his first snap in the 4th on a fumble...that's him. The mind boggling dumb inability to call anything down field, even two (frank)ing yards, is why they lost. Dak was taking shots, but Carson can't throw anything beyond the LOS?
- Mononoke

carson can't do poop when the receivers don't get separation
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 31 @ 12:10 AM ET
We know our WRs suck, so that's not on him. Putting in an ice cold rookie Rb for his first snap in the 4th on a fumble...that's him. The mind boggling dumb inability to call anything down field, even two (frank)ing yards, is why they lost. Dak was taking shots, but Carson can't throw anything beyond the LOS?
- Mononoke

Wentz throws a dirty long ball too
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 31 @ 12:12 AM ET
Wentz throws a dirty long ball too
- Giroux_Is_God


They showed a stat near the end of the 4th where Wentz had 35 attempts within like 10 yards. And 5 beyond that. None beyond (I think?) 20+. It was pathetic play calling. He drops dimes to his receivers. It was just so easy to read for the defense. Absolutely no downfield threat. Hell, almost zero midfield threat even.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 31 @ 12:18 AM ET
Wentz throws a dirty long ball too
- Giroux_Is_God

the positive is we won't have to worry about a QB and we can now focus on other positions
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 31 @ 12:22 AM ET
And of course Jonathan Marchessault gets another goal. What a disastrous night.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Oct 31 @ 7:04 AM ET
Yeah, it could be interesting to see what they do.

I'm hoping that one or both get going. If they're playing the way they did last year, the Flyers record looks a lot better

- Jsaquella


Some improved play in front of them will also help if one ever gets going
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 31 @ 7:51 AM ET
Some improved play in front of them will also help if one ever gets going
- ob18


It would help, sure. It's not just the goaltending. But with the condition of the defense, they need better goaltending. We've seen this tandem play much better than they have so far this season.

Really, I'm not laying this all on goaltending, it's a perfect storm where each breakdown is causing big problems.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 31 @ 8:11 AM ET
It would help, sure. It's not just the goaltending. But with the condition of the defense, they need better goaltending. We've seen this tandem play much better than they have so far this season.

Really, I'm not laying this all on goaltending, it's a perfect storm where each breakdown is causing big problems.

- Jsaquella

Yeah, you have to wonder if the goalies, watching the never ending defensive breakdowns in front of them, are just pressing too much. The whole team can really use the day off today and hopefully a good practice tomorrow
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Oct 31 @ 8:39 AM ET
carson can't do poop when the receivers don't get separation
- 2Real


or catch a pass..
or make a play..

johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 31 @ 8:53 AM ET
Yeah, you have to wonder if the goalies, watching the never ending defensive breakdowns in front of them, are just pressing too much. The whole team can really use the day off today and hopefully a good practice tomorrow
- BiggE


Some low grade PTSD?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 31 @ 9:08 AM ET
Welp, at least Del Zotto is expected to return Saturday.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 31 @ 9:17 AM ET
Welp, at least Del Zotto is expected to return Saturday.
- Jsaquella

yay
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Oct 31 @ 9:37 AM ET
Welp, at least Del Zotto is expected to return Saturday.
- Jsaquella



Can't wait.

I know people point out Provorov's mistakes but I can take that from him. It's when out veteran guys make the same damn mistakes that frustrate me. Can't wait to get Del Zotto back and maybe get Provorvo and Manning back together.

Gudas - Del Zotto
Manning - Provorov
Gostisbehere - Whatever vet isn't suck at the time.

nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Oct 31 @ 9:42 AM ET
And of course Jonathan Marchessault gets another goal. What a disastrous night.
- Mononoke



I know you are making a joke but pretty sure goal scoring is not an issue with the Flyers.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Oct 31 @ 9:44 AM ET
It would help, sure. It's not just the goaltending. But with the condition of the defense, they need better goaltending. We've seen this tandem play much better than they have so far this season.

Really, I'm not laying this all on goaltending, it's a perfect storm where each breakdown is causing big problems.

- Jsaquella



last year, esp the last quarter of the season, the goal tending was so good. The breakdowns didn't end up in the net as much. this year it just seems like every breakdown is resulting in a goal. the goalies aren't coming up with the big save.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Oct 31 @ 9:45 AM ET
And of course Jonathan Marchessault gets another goal. What a disastrous night.
- Mononoke

He is the hero we needed, but we clearly don't deserve him
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Oct 31 @ 9:46 AM ET
Can't wait.

I know people point out Provorov's mistakes but I can take that from him. It's when out veteran guys make the same damn mistakes that frustrate me. Can't wait to get Del Zotto back and maybe get Provorvo and Manning back together.

Gudas - Del Zotto
Manning - Provorov
Gostisbehere - Whatever vet isn't suck at the time.

- J35Bacher



can't imagine they won't play Streit.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Oct 31 @ 9:47 AM ET
last year, esp the last quarter of the season, the goal tending was so good. The breakdowns didn't end up in the net as much. this year it just seems like every breakdown is resulting in a goal. the goalies aren't coming up with the big save.
- nastyflyergirl


I don't think there were nearly as many breakdowns last year.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 31 @ 9:47 AM ET
Can't believe how well Brandon Manning is playing. 7 points in 10 games, +6. He's been the Flyers best defenseman by a country mile. Gudas has played very well since he's been back as well.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Oct 31 @ 9:48 AM ET
i can't wait until agholor is cut from this team
- 2Real



he was so indignant after the game when the drops were brought up. Makes me want to punch him in the face. its not just the drop dude, you can't get open very often either. first round draft pick.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Oct 31 @ 9:50 AM ET
I know you are making a joke but pretty sure goal scoring is not an issue with the Flyers.
- nastyflyergirl



Sceviour had a hat trick too.

Another guy I wanted.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 31 @ 9:50 AM ET
Can't believe how well Brandon Manning is playing. 7 points in 10 games, +6. He's been the Flyers best defenseman by a country mile. Gudas has played very well since he's been back as well.
- PLindbergh31


Color me amazed.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Oct 31 @ 9:51 AM ET
Can't believe how well Brandon Manning is playing. 7 points in 10 games, +6. He's been the Flyers best defenseman by a country mile. Gudas has played very well since he's been back as well.
- PLindbergh31



I've been a manning supporter.....just saying . seriously tho, the kids like Provorov and Ghost are allotted patience but Manning was just ripped on constantly which to me was a double standard. He was also a young dman learning to play at the NHL level. but I guess because he wasn't a draft pick or top prospect fans viewed him differently.
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