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mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Oct 30 @ 6:37 PM ET
Nurse for Bogo
- Sabresfan-365


stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Oct 30 @ 6:37 PM ET
Yahoo is getting more and more annoying....any recommendations on a "main site" for keeping up to date on live game info? I use hockey-reference now more than anything, but they don't have live/same-day game info, so I thought I'd look for feedback on something good and clean - clean being key, it's a big reason I've gone to hockey-reference now
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Oct 30 @ 6:37 PM ET
It does, it's Bogo everyday on this site with him, let it go already.
- SABRES 89



Its the same with me too but it has nothing to do with the trade. I dont miss any of the pieces given up, but Bogosian flat out sucks.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Oct 30 @ 6:37 PM ET
Jesus we should play every game early on a weekend so I can miss all or most of it and we can win 3 - 0
- Herzeleid


Lol I know, right?
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Oct 30 @ 6:38 PM ET
Sort of correct. The game will be played at the 2018 WJCs on 12/2?/17. The next WJC's this coming December/January are called the 2017 WJCs. It's odd to call it just one year when the games take place in two different years.
- Wetbandit1


12/29

http://sports.yahoo.com/n...in-buffalo-204429831.html
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Oct 30 @ 6:39 PM ET
Its the same with me too but it has nothing to do with the trade. I dont miss any of the pieces given up, but Bogosian flat out sucks.
- Sabresfan-365

Opinions vary
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Oct 30 @ 6:39 PM ET
The decision to pay him was a major tactical error


Also Risto

- Sabresfan-365


Are you talking about when he went ass over tea kettle into the bench? I saw that on the post game and wondered how he managed to pull that off. Was he just trying to get off the ice to avoid a too many men or something?
doppelthat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.07.2012

Oct 30 @ 6:40 PM ET
Lol Okposo as Steve Harvey for Halloween is outrageous. If you haven't seen it yet check out Garth's blog
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Oct 30 @ 6:41 PM ET
12/29

http://sports.yahoo.com/n...in-buffalo-204429831.html

- stashu


Thanks I knew it was the 27th to the 29th I just couldn't remember the exact day. Still a stupid naming scheme though. Though the NFL does it too. They call the winner of this year's Super Bowl the 2017 champs when 16 weeks are played in 2016.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Oct 30 @ 6:43 PM ET
Yahoo is getting more and more annoying....any recommendations on a "main site" for keeping up to date on live game info? I use hockey-reference now more than anything, but they don't have live/same-day game info, so I thought I'd look for feedback on something good and clean - clean being key, it's a big reason I've gone to hockey-reference now
- stashu



TheScore.com is great for realtime scores, news, standings and stats across dozens of sports.

Also an app that can be customized with the teams and sports you want to follow to customize notifications to your phone at intervals you tailor.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Oct 30 @ 6:45 PM ET
Give up McCabe and Bailey and might work
- SABRES 89


I'd do that easily. I doubt that works though. Maybe have to add a couple 2nds or a top 10 protected 1st to that.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Oct 30 @ 6:54 PM ET
Expose him. Myers NMC was not picked up after the trade, I'm assuming it's the same for Bogo
- sbroads24


There doesn't seem to be consensus on that. Capfriendly has it "trade may have voided clause" I raised the question yesterday that, if when they waived they waived it permanently or if it was temporary. People seem to be more clear that Gorges does not have a M-NTC, but are less sure about Bago. I suppose someone could dig through the CBA, and look for the answer, but even then there seem to be some rules that aren't quite in there or the interpretation is a bit different.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Oct 30 @ 6:56 PM ET
any thought to the contrary is idiotic. We just need a good partner for him. Trouba?
- mhp



Both RH shots
I know they played Risto on the left at times,
But I feel like he wasn't very successful on that side

Pretty sure Trouba is exclusively a right side guy
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Oct 30 @ 6:57 PM ET
https://youtu.be/3y5-j1DI1jM
- Der Kaiser


I think his is more:



jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Oct 30 @ 7:03 PM ET
I think his is more:




- Wetbandit1




Nice!
Saw her at RiotFest a few summers ago
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Oct 30 @ 7:13 PM ET
Nice!
Saw her at RiotFest a few summers ago

- jdfitz77


I saw her a long time ago on the Canal in NT when they still had those concerts down there. Saw Foghat there too. lol (frank)ing wieners waited an hour and a half to play Slow Ride, or maybe it just felt like it because I was watching Foghat.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Oct 30 @ 7:31 PM ET
I think we're going to be good.
Ripped Fuel
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 11.01.2006

Oct 30 @ 7:35 PM ET
I guess our resident pessimistic ####### forgot about #23s recent 2 point game and the chemistry he had with #15 in the 2nd half last year. But hey, let's treat hockey like it's fantasy hockey.
- turbo044


So what you're saying is....you're ok with a #2 over all pick having FOUR points in 8 games...basically 41 a year.....and... you're ok with a #2 overall needing his Lederhosen BFF to come back in order to make any impact??

Gee ...I don't know....I always saw a #2 overall pick as a player that ..when the team suffers obstacles ...picks his game up and LEADS HIS TEAM....I never thought a #2 overall pick gets to say..."I need my buddy..." if he needs 15 to hold his hand all the time...he IS a bust.....and should be traded for a defenseman with HEART.

BUT ...hey....we all have different expectations of a #2. Three of the last 4 games...hes been invisible. So...you're saying when eichel got hurt...we lost Reinhart for 25 games too?

Lovely
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Oct 30 @ 7:42 PM ET
Risto is a #1
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Oct 30 @ 7:43 PM ET
So what you're saying is....you're ok with a #2 over all pick having FOUR points in 8 games...basically 41 a year.....and... you're ok with a #2 overall needing his Lederhosen BFF to come back in order to make any impact??

Gee ...I don't know....I always saw a #2 overall pick as a player that ..when the team suffers obstacles ...picks his game up and LEADS HIS TEAM....I never thought a #2 overall pick gets to say..."I need my buddy..." if he needs 15 to hold his hand all the time...he IS a bust.....and should be traded for a defenseman with HEART.

BUT ...hey....we all have different expectations of a #2. Three of the last 4 games...hes been invisible. So...you're saying when eichel got hurt...we lost Reinhart for 25 games too?

Lovely

- Ripped Fuel


Whatever you say . We should just cut him right now , 2nd year in the league, he should be leading the league in scoring. God why don't you have Tim Murray's job? You are a genius!


Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Oct 30 @ 7:44 PM ET
So what you're saying is....you're ok with a #2 over all pick having FOUR points in 8 games...basically 41 a year.....and... you're ok with a #2 overall needing his Lederhosen BFF to come back in order to make any impact??

Gee ...I don't know....I always saw a #2 overall pick as a player that ..when the team suffers obstacles ...picks his game up and LEADS HIS TEAM....I never thought a #2 overall pick gets to say..."I need my buddy..." if he needs 15 to hold his hand all the time...he IS a bust.....and should be traded for a defenseman with HEART.

BUT ...hey....we all have different expectations of a #2. Three of the last 4 games...hes been invisible. So...you're saying when eichel got hurt...we lost Reinhart for 25 games too?

Lovely

- Ripped Fuel


What do you think of Joel Armia?
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Oct 30 @ 7:45 PM ET
So what you're saying is....you're ok with a #2 over all pick having FOUR points in 8 games...basically 41 a year.....and... you're ok with a #2 overall needing his Lederhosen BFF to come back in order to make any impact??

Gee ...I don't know....I always saw a #2 overall pick as a player that ..when the team suffers obstacles ...picks his game up and LEADS HIS TEAM....I never thought a #2 overall pick gets to say..."I need my buddy..." if he needs 15 to hold his hand all the time...he IS a bust.....and should be traded for a defenseman with HEART.

BUT ...hey....we all have different expectations of a #2. Three of the last 4 games...hes been invisible. So...you're saying when eichel got hurt...we lost Reinhart for 25 games too?

Lovely

- Ripped Fuel


If he was 25 I'd right there with you, but he's not even old enough to legally buy a beer yet. Players develop at different rates. Look back about 10 years about half the players taken at #2 are hardly their team's leaders. From 2005 to 2014 Bobby Ryan, Jordan Staal, JVR, Tyler Seguin is really good, but I wouldn't exactly say he puts his team on his back, Ryan Murray, so half of the players aren't their team's leaders and never have been. Not winning a coin flip doesn't make me want to scream. And he's still only 20 years old. Let's give the kid a few years before we find out what kind of player he is.
Ripped Fuel
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 11.01.2006

Oct 30 @ 7:53 PM ET
What do you think of Joel Armia?
- Der Kaiser


He's an irrelevant player. Dime a dozen. Like 23. Can play in the league but nothing special. Like 23
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Oct 30 @ 7:55 PM ET
He's an irrelevant player. Dime a dozen. Like 23. Can play in the league but nothing special. Like 23
- Ripped Fuel

I didn't see that coming.
Ripped Fuel
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 11.01.2006

Oct 30 @ 7:56 PM ET
If he was 25 I'd right there with you, but he's not even old enough to legally buy a beer yet. Players develop at different rates. Look back about 10 years about half the players taken at #2 are hardly their team's leaders. From 2005 to 2014 Bobby Ryan, Jordan Staal, JVR, Tyler Seguin is really good, but I wouldn't exactly say he puts his team on his back, Ryan Murray, so half of the players aren't their team's leaders and never have been. Not winning a coin flip doesn't make me want to scream. And he's still only 20 years old. Let's give the kid a few years before we find out what kind of player he is.
- Wetbandit1


How many years did Matthews need? McD?? Laine?? Marner?

1. Needs Eichel
2. He's young
3. New position

Boy ...the excuses are really adding up...he's young?? Laine is two years younger and has more GOALS than 23 has points. Invisible for 3 of 4.
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