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RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Oct 28 @ 2:23 PM ET
Whatever.
The fact that you don't see how you respond to people is crazy. You make holier than thou comments about things you obviously only understand part of, and then when people challenge your statements you tell them they aren't as smart as you and act like my 7 year old when I tell her it's time for bed.

- Tonybere


He flags me and gets me banned for comparing his writing to something that causes brain cancer. Then he says it wasn't because of my insult to him, it was because joking about cancer is insensitive and pathetic. Now he is joking about psych evaluation because you are calling him out. James Tanner, hypocrisy at its finest. (frank)ing pathetic.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Oct 28 @ 2:25 PM ET
People are suffering from mental illness all over the world and here James Tanner is joking about a psych evaluation. (frank)ing pathetic...
- RonPielep



Who says I was joking?
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Oct 28 @ 2:41 PM ET
Who says I was joking?
- James_Tanner


Who says I was joking when I made the comparison of the sensationalist click-bait garbage you write?

Point is, you're now making light of mental illness as a means to insult people about a week after you flagged me and got me banned by making light of brain cancer as a means to insult you. Then you claim that it wasn't because you were offended by my insult to you, but rather my making light of an issue like cancer was insensitive. And you think you making light of mental illness is any less insensitive or in poor taste? No James, you are just a flaming hypocrite, as most here already seem to have acknowledged.
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Oct 28 @ 3:58 PM ET
Three is ample evidence every single day that NHL teams constantly make horrible mistakes. I am 100% confident I would be a better GM than Peter Chiarelli, Bob Murray, Brian Burke, Anyone who's ever run Ottawa or Buffalo, Dave Nonis.........I could go all day.

Being an NHL GM is as simple as a) being born into an NHL family b) playing in the NHL c) being a player agent (which first requires being a lawyer) c) starting your own stats company.

I think that covers 100% of the NHL's GMs.

What I lack in hockey experience first hand, I make for by being one of the only people on this earth capable of an original thought, having been to college, and being an expert in critical thinking.

I dunno, I think I could hack it, no problems. Also, I should probably point out (before you pull something trying to respoind) that I am only giving the answer this question deserves, I'm not entirely serious.

- James_Tanner
mlindsay
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Oct 28 @ 5:36 PM ET
Who says I was joking when I made the comparison of the sensationalist click-bait garbage you write?

Point is, you're now making light of mental illness as a means to insult people about a week after you flagged me and got me banned by making light of brain cancer as a means to insult you. Then you claim that it wasn't because you were offended by my insult to you, but rather my making light of an issue like cancer was insensitive. And you think you making light of mental illness is any less insensitive or in poor taste? No James, you are just a flaming hypocrite, as most here already seem to have acknowledged.

- RonPielep

Aren't you the same D-bag that harped on me for making a comment about someone making a rape joke?!
Brutal.
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Oct 28 @ 6:15 PM ET
I feel like everytime I enter a Tranner thread thousands of my brain cells drink suicide kool-aid.
- glove_was_stuck


This is what I was referring to with my brain cancer comment. I think there is some definite truth to it.
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Oct 28 @ 6:23 PM ET
Aren't you the same D-bag that harped on me for making a comment about someone making a rape joke?!
Brutal.

- mlindsay




You mean after you shamed someone for making a harmless joke that equated Kane's violence problems as a potential punishment for Gudas, and you accused the guy of somehow supporting rape?

Yeah, that was me who harped on you for being that guy. The guy who can't take a simple (frank)ing meaningless joke that in no way condones or supports rape, without inserting yourself into a moral high-ground to make yourself feel superior.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Oct 28 @ 6:44 PM ET
The idea that the Taylor Hall for Adam Larsson trade is in any way defendable makes me laugh. I don't know what to tell you, if you want me to admit that I don't know everything and am not the smartest guy in town, don't pick a topic where I am 100% objectively correct to battle about.

I am sure I occasionally say something that isn't objectively correct, but the Taylor Hall trade isn't the place to take your stand. Especially when he's on pace for 78 goals.

- James_Tanner


So when Ristolainen was on pace for 136 points he was the best defenseman in the league right? 6 games does not a season make. Now he's just on pace for 82, so he's definitely still top 10, right? There are a lot of things Taylor Hall does that makes him a great player, using a 6 game sample size in goal scoring isn't one of them.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Oct 28 @ 6:45 PM ET
What is wrong with you? You need a psych evaluation, not a ban from the hockey comments section. This is some seriously disturbing stuff, to think you have this much of a problem with a hockey blogger.

Please, at the very least, call the kids help phone and for the love of god, get your Dad's permission before you go online unsupervised.

- James_Tanner

What I really don't understand, is that you're still allowed to use this tone to your readers. You should know there's more than kids on this blog. I'm sure quite a few with higher education than yourself - not that it matters...

Learn to show some respect and to keep your cool. So, pretty please with sugar on top
JLO961
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 01.16.2013

Oct 28 @ 9:10 PM ET
Anyone who thinks the Hall for Larsson trade was terrible is not looking at the big picture, nor the makeup of the Edmonton Oilers' roster.

The defense has improved FAR more than the offense has suffered, that's the only proof you need.

I commend Chiarelli for making this very difficult decision for the betterment of the team, that's what good leaders do, they make tough decisions that might not work out. This one has worked out...and then some.

Tanner never gets it...like...never. He is extremely consistent in terms of taking the wrong side of any deabate I've seen on this site.
Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

Oct 28 @ 9:13 PM ET
Anyone who thinks the Hall for Larsson trade was terrible is not looking at the big picture, nor the makeup of the Edmonton Oilers' roster.

The defense has improved FAR more than the offense has suffered, that's the only proof you need.

I commend Chiarelli for making this very difficult decision for the betterment of the team, that's what good leaders do, they make tough decisions that might not work out. This one has worked out...and then some.

Tanner never gets it...like...never. He is extremely consistent in terms of taking the wrong side of any deabate I've seen on this site.

- JLO961


You seem like a smart guy, probably fairly succesful as well...what chamges would you make, if any, to this new version of the Oilers?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 28 @ 9:53 PM ET
Yes. Find me another example of a top ten player in the league being traded for a second pairing defenseman? Even if Larsson reaches his full potential, he's still not Taylor Hall.

I don't believe most people recognize how good Hall is because the teams he played for were so bad.

- James_Tanner


James, your first step in becoming an NHL general manager is understanding that your job is to put the best team on the ice you can. Not the best list of players.
Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

Oct 28 @ 9:56 PM ET
James, your first step in becoming an NHL general manager is understanding that your job is to put the best team on the ice you can. Not the best list of players.
- MJL


Im not sure really gets it.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 28 @ 9:57 PM ET
Im not sure really gets it.
- Larsson_fan


I'm sure, he doesn't.

Anyone else want to self anoint, and declare yourself an expert in something? I would think an expert in critical thinking would know that you don't have to tell people you're an expert in an area. If you actually are, they already know.
Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

Oct 28 @ 9:59 PM ET
I'm sure, he doesn't.

Anyone else want to self anoint, and declare yourself an expert in something? I would think an expert in critical thinking would know that you don't have to tell people you're an expert in an area. If you actually are, they already know.

- MJL


Yup. Just like the guy who announces hes the smartest guy in the room. Probably isnt.
tkecanuck341
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Irvine, CA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Oct 28 @ 10:42 PM ET
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Oct 29 @ 4:38 AM ET
Anyone who thinks the Hall for Larsson trade was terrible is not looking at the big picture, nor the makeup of the Edmonton Oilers' roster.

The defense has improved FAR more than the offense has suffered, that's the only proof you need.

I commend Chiarelli for making this very difficult decision for the betterment of the team, that's what good leaders do, they make tough decisions that might not work out. This one has worked out...and then some.

Tanner never gets it...like...never. He is extremely consistent in terms of taking the wrong side of any deabate I've seen on this site.

- JLO961


Best thing to happen to Edmonton was to get rid of Taylor hall ....best thing to happen to Taylor hall was to get rid of Edmonton...it was a win win
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Oct 29 @ 4:41 AM ET
The problem is that Tanner's whole plan isn't just revolving around having a few players on ELC's. Those teams didn't immediately after finishing 30th in the league go out and trade the next several 1st and 2nd rounders the very next year to try and win right away.

They waited like any sensible team until they'd improved at least a little bit, then maybe traded some picks and prospects to get the extra pieces they needed. The leafs were 30th last year. They will likely be picking top 5 again with a good chance of winning a lottery spot. This is a stupid time to consider trading a 1st rounder.

- Thecakeisalie


The question is what could a leafs first rounder this year actually get you ??
mlindsay
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Oct 29 @ 8:55 AM ET


You mean after you shamed someone for making a harmless joke that equated Kane's violence problems as a potential punishment for Gudas, and you accused the guy of somehow supporting rape?

Yeah, that was me who harped on you for being that guy. The guy who can't take a simple (frank)ing meaningless joke that in no way condones or supports rape, without inserting yourself into a moral high-ground to make yourself feel superior.

- RonPielep

So...
you see that you have done the same thing to James then, yes?
Or are you on a far superior plane to notice?
flamminghead
Calgary Flames
Location: As good as they are in the off, AB
Joined: 09.02.2009

Oct 29 @ 9:04 AM ET
English league soccer does this. Each team plays each other twice...once home and once away. Whoever has the most points is champ. You lose the drama and iconic moments of the playoffs and sometimes the ending can be anti-climactic, but this truly makes it that the "best team" wins. You'd opt for this system over playoffs?
- wolphnuts12

In the old days the President's trophy was more sought after than the Stanley Cup.
flamminghead
Calgary Flames
Location: As good as they are in the off, AB
Joined: 09.02.2009

Oct 29 @ 9:22 AM ET
I love how condescending you are and yet you're judging the worst trade in NHL history as good after seven games.
- James_Tanner

I don't understand how it is the worst in NHL history. No way it's worse than when Montreal acquired Gomez.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Oct 29 @ 10:21 AM ET
Yes. Find me another example of a top ten player in the league being traded for a second pairing defenseman? Even if Larsson reaches his full potential, he's still not Taylor Hall.

I don't believe most people recognize how good Hall is because the teams he played for were so bad.

- James_Tanner



meh, I'd take the Larrson/Hall deal over the McDonagh for Gomez deal to be honest.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Oct 29 @ 10:24 AM ET
Well he found it now, crazy what allowing a player to play to his strengths and a fan base that doesn't heap unrealistic expectations and then outlandish condemnations when he fails to meet said expectations does for a players ability to impact the game.
- Dcoms


He hasnt found anything...just on a deeper team. Want to get paid like a #1 player on a team you need to play like it...now he can hang out on the 3rd line and get paid 1st line money....good for him.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Oct 29 @ 12:14 PM ET
meh, I'd take the Larrson/Hall deal over the McDonagh for Gomez deal to be honest.
- Garnie



But that's in retrospect. At the time, no one knew McD would be so good. Right now, we have actual evidence showing that a) Taylor Hall is a top 10 5v5 scorer since he entered the league b) that 5v5 scoring is THE most important thing a player can do to contribute to winning c) Adam Larsson provides so little offense he'd literally have to be the best ever defensive player to equal Hall's impact in a game.


All I see is people equating a hot start with a good trade and a whole bunch of other really, really stupid justifications and logical fallacies.

It's a bad trade, it will always be a bad trade and fluking into Puljujarvi and McDavid will cover it up, but not change anything.

James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Oct 29 @ 12:16 PM ET
So...
you see that you have done the same thing to James then, yes?
Or are you on a far superior plane to notice?

- mlindsay


The difference is that he's serious and I'm not. I don't even know what to say to these people who are clearly unable to identify sarcasm, subversiveness, humour or mockery.

Hell, I even wrote in one of the posts that it was a joke and people still keep talking about it. Hilarious to me, embarrassing for them. Good times for all.
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