you're actually pretty entertaining when you're not discussing advanced stats. You did lose me when you said trade 3-4 first round picks for Jake freaking Muzzin. Also, your music choices are steaming hot garbage.
- gtrman09

Ya 3 1st for muzzin😨 I have no words to .....James? ?????

Part of what makes it such a bad trade is that the Oilers could have gotten a defenseman just as good as Larson without trading Hall.

I guarantee you there is at least one team around that would given you a similar player for 3 or 4 draft picks. Then you keep Hall and you're in a way better off spot.
- James_Tanner

Oh Bullpoop.

So they're all gonna justify an average of more than $8mil/season going into their second contracts? Or are you counting on Matthews to get $12mil?
- MaximumBone

I guess McDavid gets 15?😨

Oh Bullpoop.
- Larsson_fan

I agree with James

I agree with James
- MR.Hunter

Yeah but you can only speculate as to whom. And even then, its just your opinion that said mystery Defenceman is a better fit than Larsson.

I agree with James
- MR.Hunter

Ya Chai kind of scary Kessel, seguin, hall,not much for boston to show for?third line players and 3rd paring d?for hall ,it's wait and see,but laffson better turn into a top ten d in the league for it to even out,the teams better sure but that's because of the McDavid effect and better goaltending! !!laffson helps but..for hall?Idk. ..wait and see I guess, but I hope Edmonton makes the playoffs, love routing for the toronto guys!!!!😊

Yeah but you can only speculate as to whom. And even then, its just your opinion that said mystery Defenceman is a better fit than Larsson.
- Larsson_fan

Ya for sure ,I doubt there was a better d man available? But it really smelt of desperation, maybe theirs something about hall we don't know about?....also to James idea, they should of tried to trade pularvi (spelling? )plus their 1st and+?for lindholm. ..now your talking! !!that d would of been wow!!!

I love how condescending you are and yet you're judging the worst trade in NHL history as good after seven games.
- James_Tanner

Condescending is exactly how you respond to each person that challenges you.

I also clearly stated "at this point at least" in reference to the trade.

Worst trade in history? If ones recollection of hockey history only goes as far back as when advanced stats websites came to be, then I guess so.

Ya Chai kind of scary Kessel, seguin, hall,not much for boston to show for?third line players and 3rd paring d?for hall ,it's wait and see,but laffson better turn into a top ten d in the league for it to even out,the teams better sure but that's because of the McDavid effect and better goaltending! !!laffson helps but..for hall?Idk. ..wait and see I guess, but I hope Edmonton makes the playoffs, love routing for the toronto guys!!!!😊
- MR.Hunter

Well this was a train wreck of a post...So you think in todays market Hall is worth a top 10 goalie?

Ya for sure ,I doubt there was a better d man available? But it really smelt of desperation, maybe theirs something about hall we don't know about?
- MR.Hunter

Or maybe chiarelli just really likes Larsson, his age and his contract?

Condescending is exactly how you respond to each person that challenges you.

I also clearly stated "at this point at least" in reference to the trade.

Worst trade in history? If ones recollection of hockey history only goes as far back as when advanced stats websites came to be, then I guess so.
- leonkennedy

Ya it's not the worst !leafs have made some horrible ones!if you got all night we can go through them!!!...anyone? anyone? ..fine then leafs win!!!

Well this was a train wreck of a post...So you think in todays market Hall is worth a top 10 goalie?
- Larsson_fan

Goalie? ??😨

Very interesting blog James. The poster who mentioned the now illegal contracts had a good point. No way the Hawks win three without them. Personally I'd take one cup over contending for years.

Ya it's not the worst !leafs have made some horrible ones!if you got all night we can go through them!!!...anyone? anyone? ..fine then leafs win!!!
- MR.Hunter

GARY MOTHER(frank)ING LEEMAN......oh wait, that would be a bad Flames trade.

Goalie? ??😨
- MR.Hunter

Defence....my bad

Oh Bullpoop.
- Larsson_fan

You are obviously an alt of some loser who is probably banned for the 30th time and brags about how cool that is. Go back to the Oilers thread, you'll fit right in.

You are obviously an alt of some loser who is probably banned for the 30th time and brags about how cool that is. Go back to the Oilers thread, you'll fit right in.
- shack67

Actually this isnt, so the jokes on you, pal

Besides, this is a Tanner thread, discussing BOTH the Leafs and Oilers...or what, does that make this place a Donkeys only thread?

Those same Hawks also didnt trade 3 firsts and 4 seconds for their players.
- Joel_Eh

Well, they did trade a #1 to the Coyotes to get Vermette at the deadline of their 2015 Cup run, so in essence, they did do exactly what James suggested in the blog, which is to surround your young players with enough talent to maximize their ability while they can afford to do so. Remember, that came before Toews and Kane 10.5 mil per contracts kicked in. And, Vermette was an instrumental contributor. So I will argue that Tanner's strategy worked in this case, even though 19 and 88 were not on ELC's, they were still manageable. Saad was ELC though, so again, same principal.

There are always ways to fit a dynasty under the salary cap as long as you have players under contracts that are no longer legal!

- YuenglingJagr

Fair enough. Then I guess you are bitter that the Oilers, Canadians, and Red Wings had dynasties too, because they played in a no salary cap league?

Condescending is exactly how you respond to each person that challenges you.

I also clearly stated "at this point at least" in reference to the trade.

Worst trade in history? If ones recollection of hockey history only goes as far back as when advanced stats websites came to be, then I guess so.
- leonkennedy

Gomez for McDonagh

I love how condescending you are and yet you're judging the worst trade in NHL history as good after seven games.
- James_Tanner

After actually seeing what Larsson is I couldn't be happier.


Devils love Hall too.


Why can't both teams win?

Actually this isnt, so the jokes on you, pal

Besides, this is a Tanner thread, discussing BOTH the Leafs and Oilers...or what, does that make this place a Donkeys only thread?
- Larsson_fan

100% Alt

100% Alt
- shack67

What are you, The Blade Runner of Alt accounts?

And what do you care if Oilers fans are in the Tanner thread? Hes discussing our team FFS.

Three is ample evidence every single day that NHL teams constantly make horrible mistakes. I am 100% confident I would be a better GM than Peter Chiarelli, Bob Murray, Brian Burke, Anyone who's ever run Ottawa or Buffalo, Dave Nonis.........I could go all day.

Being an NHL GM is as simple as a) being born into an NHL family b) playing in the NHL c) being a player agent (which first requires being a lawyer) c) starting your own stats company.

I think that covers 100% of the NHL's GMs.

What I lack in hockey experience first hand, I make for by being one of the only people on this earth capable of an original thought, having been to college, and being an expert in critical thinking.

I dunno, I think I could hack it, no problems. Also, I should probably point out (before you pull something trying to respoind) that I am only giving the answer this question deserves, I'm not entirely serious.
- James_Tanner

Oh My.

You are obviously an alt of some loser who is probably banned for the 30th time and brags about how cool that is. Go back to the Oilers thread, you'll fit right in.
- shack67

Nice measured response. You really taught him a good lesson.