Personally I want to see Mason re-signed
- nastyflyergirl

I think Mason is a stone-cold No. 1, personally. There are times when he can lose a little focus and form, but I believe in my core that they can win a cup with him

What I'm really looking for is something that sets up like this:



... and the forwards in front of the net moving dynamically -- high, low, kicking out wide, collapsing into an overload, etc.

The 1-3-1 they use now is static as F.
- Tomahawk

That is not having the slot completely open, as you stated previously, and also that is pretty much what the Flyers do now, only with the low forward on the opposite side. The Flyers PP is at 26%

As long as the PP cuts back on that drop pass through the neutral zone I'll be happy.

I feel like people don't realize how much MDZ and Mason mean to the team
- PhillySportsGuy

Man, Mason, with the exception of whatever he had going on with his personal issues last season, has been a stone-cold killer for them. Even last year, that dude was a monster down the stretch after Neuvirth got hurt. I don't feel he got the credit he deserves for that

I think Mason is a stone-cold No. 1, personally. There are times when he can lose a little focus and form, but I believe in my core that they can win a cup with him
- AllInForFlyers

Agreed. We aren't going to find better than Mason out there.

None of those 3 will help the Flyers win as much as Steve Mason will. They're all third liners, Pearson is a weak 2nd liner.

It's not going to happen, because the Flyers (I believe) realize that Mason is a #1 and, if you look at it objectively, he's bordering one elite. I'm not kidding. His numbers bear it out (he does have a PK Save % issue, granted). If anything, they would trade Neuvirth because, as good as he was last year, he's not as consistent, and has never shown that he can handle the workload. Mason has, and has excelled at it.

Not gonna happen. Sorry to burst your bubble.
- jmatchett383

I'm just not as high on Mase. Don't dislike him, but don't think he is consistent. And not willing to base handing him the #1 spot outright over 7 games this year.

Agreed. We aren't going to find better than Mason out there.
- MikesPillBottle

Hey! We agree on something!

That is not having the slot completely open, as you stated previously
- MJL

This is what Tomahawk wrote like 4 pages ago:

Between Schenn and Simmer, there would still always be at least one guy sliding net-front to provide a screen no matter where the puck is in the umbrella.
- Tomahawk

You are one of a kind.

It tells me that Quick will be back.
- Scoob

And that he is a good stand in, but not able to compete for a #1.

BUT NO ONE IS IN FRONT!!!!!!
- PhillySportsGuy

I DONUT GET IT. HELP ME GET IT.

I'm just not as high on Mase. Don't dislike him, but don't think he is consistent. And not willing to base handing him the #1 spot outright over 7 games this year.
- section32

Handing him the #1 spot? Mason has earned the #1 spot based on his play, as our #1, since acquiring him. It is not just a 7 game sample. It's a sample based on years. He has had a better career than Neuvy as well.

Stick Embiid in the (frank)ing slot and giddy up

Lol Mason for Clifford, Pearson, and "picks"

Man, Mason, with the exception of whatever he had going on with his personal issues last season, has been a stone-cold killer for them. Even last year, that dude was a monster down the stretch after Neuvirth got hurt. I don't feel he got the credit he deserves for that
- AllInForFlyers

Whenever valuable players like Couturier, MDZ, Gudas or Raffl are out, the team's play dips and everyone starts the "Oh, we should trade these guys because we're going nowhere."

Then they return and the Flyers start to look good and everyone says "Hey, we're just one or two moves away from being a legit contender!"

I wish everyone would just chill and wait for the team to be healthy before determining which guys are "useless" or "repalceable". It wasn't that long ago when many fine folks said Read should be sent to the AHL in favor of the dreck currently in the bottom 6.

Del Zotto is a 26 year old, top 4 defenseman who will likely age well. I feel like people hold his development curve against him.

Stick Embiid in the (frank)ing slot and giddy up
- Mononoke

There will be a moment in tonight's game when Westbrook goes to yam on him and I will miss it because I'll be in class learning about constraints (like MacDonald's contract LOL!)

Handing him the #1 spot? Mason has earned the #1 spot based on his play, as our #1, since acquiring him. It is not just a 7 game sample. It's a sample based on years. He has had a better career than Neuvy as well.
- arichardson22

They both have?'s in their past. Neuwirth couldn't beat out Holtby. And yes, this is the first time that both of them have had a decent defense in front of them. But this has always been a 1a and 1B goalie situation. I just don't personally believe that either one has knocked the other out of contention.

I DONUT GET IT. HELP ME GET IT.
- Mononoke

The key is to respond, but with as many contingencies as possible in order to cover yourself for future conversations.

Whenever valuable players like Couturier, MDZ, Gudas or Raffl are out, the team's play dips and everyone starts the "Oh, we should trade these guys because we're going nowhere."

Then they return and the Flyers start to look good and everyone says "Hey, we're just one or two moves away from being a legit contender!"

I wish everyone would just chill and wait for the team to be healthy before determining which guys are "useless" or "repalceable". It wasn't that long ago when many fine folks said Read should be sent to the AHL in favor of the dreck currently in the bottom 6.

Del Zotto is a 26 year old, top 4 defenseman who will likely age well. I feel like people hold his development curve against him.
- PhillySportsGuy

I plead guilty on Read, but I am a lot more encouraging on some other guys. To me, since Berube scratched him for that one stretch -- and I still disagree with that -- MDZ has been the best defenseman on this team, and it really wasn't all that close for long stretches

He was playing 26-30 minutes a night for some stretches, and those weren't minutes because they didn't have anyone else. I was glad to see that dude out there for those minutes

I feel like people hold his development curve against him.
- PhillySportsGuy

In defense of people like myself who are somewhat less than enamored of MDZ, there was a point when his development curve looked more like a cliff off of which he had tumbled.

This is what Tomahawk wrote like 4 pages ago:



You are one of a kind.
- Mononoke

I just deal in the facts. Here is his original point, that I disagreed with. More than 4 pages ago, and I posted why I disagreed with it. I'll refrain from making any personal remarks towards you.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...p?thread_id=138963&page=7

"Would unclog the lane for Ghost's point shot too... right now w/ Schenn and Simmer stacked vertically, there's like 4-5 players standing between Ghost and the net.

Jake could still play the right wall, just have Schenn and Simmer at either post and move in/kick out depending on which side of the ice the puck is on."

That Hartsy one-time play is just dead."

I guess my question is when is Rafl and mdz due back and when they do who goes? Wont we be above the roster limit also with laughton coming back and above the cap.

They knew that Bradford was not the long term solution, and the contract they gave him, pointed that out. Why is Mason not the long term solution in goal for the Flyers? He's 28 years old.
- MJL

I'll play the bad guy and just ask:

Why doesn't he have a contract then?

If Bradford's contract pointed out he wasn't the long term solution doesn't Mason's lack of a contract point to the same thing?

(I'd give him a contract tomorrow)

Edit: Nevermind. You guys moved on. Work just gets in the way.

I'm just not as high on Mase. Don't dislike him, but don't think he is consistent. And not willing to base handing him the #1 spot outright over 7 games this year.
- section32

If you don't think Mason is consistent, then how is Neuvirth more consistent? Did Neuvirth look like a #1 last night?

Lol Mason for Clifford, Pearson, and "picks"
- Mordecai

Those were "ors" not ands. And picks is innocuous meaning it would have to be determined.

In defense of people like myself who are somewhat less than enamored of MDZ, there was a point when his development curve looked more like a cliff off of which he had tumbled.
- Doc_Sarcasm

I still look at that as Sather hardballed him just to be a d-bag, and Fonzie did what Fonzie does to guys he doesn't like

Yeah, he could've been more mature as a young player and he wasn't great in Nashville after getting traded, but people forget that he had an extremely promising start to his career, multiple seasons. It's not like he hadn't played well before. He really had