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mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 26 @ 4:09 PM ET
love puns

edit: Also, Quick is not undergoing surgery and he is not being put on LTIR, fwiw

Still out 3-4 months though lol

- Streit2ThePoint

Maybe they can trade for Frederick Andersson
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Oct 26 @ 4:09 PM ET


Well done.

- Mononoke

What?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Oct 26 @ 4:09 PM ET
that was also a deep team offensively. Briere, Carter, Gagne, Giroux, Hartnell, Richards and JVR. that's pretty solid. Pronger, Timonen, Carle and Coburn was a very good top 4. the bottom 2 was a hot mess of course.
- nastyflyergirl

That team was stacked....

Richards, Carter, Briere, Giroux, Leino, Hartnell, JvR, Gagne, Lappy, Betts, Asham, Carcillo, Powe on offense.

Pronger, Timonen, Carle, Coburn on D. If only they had added Meszy then.....
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 26 @ 4:10 PM ET
Is the Rags board really so dead you have to come over here and troll even when there's no game with the Flyers for a month?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Oct 26 @ 4:11 PM ET
Is the Rags board really so dead you have to come over here and troll even when there's no game with the Flyers for a month?
- Feanor

RangerDanger is fun.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 26 @ 4:11 PM ET
Is the Rags board really so dead you have to come over here and troll even when there's no game with the Flyers for a month?
- Feanor


rangerdanger hasn't been bad. Jimbro and the others come over to start stuff. I find rangerdanger to be at least civil.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Oct 26 @ 4:13 PM ET
Remember when you made the SCF with Leighton and Boucher?

Sweet baby Jesus how in the world did that ever happen

- rangerdanger94


Schooled the Rangers in the art of the shootout.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 26 @ 4:13 PM ET
Apparently, professional basketball begins tonight. And the Sixers are playing a top team with their Super Rookie joining crippled, taking the place of former crippled super rookie. 30 point loss?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 26 @ 4:14 PM ET
Maybe they can trade for Frederick Andersson
- mayorofangrytown


Ben Bishop and MAF (once Murray returns) make the most sense.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 26 @ 4:15 PM ET
People keep saying this, but Cousins did well in his 30 games last year. He could be the ONLY respectable 3C on this roster, if he'd only get a chance this season. I just take issue with the idea there there's simply nothing to be done, and PEB is as good an option as any for 3rd line center. He's not and doesn't have to be.
- Mononoke

Cousins would be my choice, but I'd still prefer someone better. IMO, Cousins is a somewhat skilled 4th line agitator on a Cup contender
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 26 @ 4:16 PM ET
Cousins would be my choice, but I'd still prefer someone better. IMO, Cousins is a somewhat skilled 4th line agitator on a Cup contender
- BiggE


Kind of an Antonie Roussell?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 26 @ 4:16 PM ET
No, I'm understanding what you're saying perfectly. PP structure isn't that complicated. You don't want the high slot completely open. That's bad structure. That makes it real easy for the PK defenders to attack the players on the perimeter and the points, who have the puck, without the threat in the middle. You want that slot presence to hold the attention of the defenders. The guy sliding in from the side in most cases won't get there in time, and is much easier for the defenders to screen and block them from getting to the net. It will also hurt Schenn's ability to be able to get to all sides and dig out loose pucks, which he is so good at. It's one of the underrated aspects of their PP success.
- MJL


So the traditional umbrella setup is bad structure?

It's time to put the 1-3-1 to bed.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 26 @ 4:17 PM ET
Kind of an Antonie Roussell?
- jmatchett383

Yeah, kind of.
section32
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 02.15.2007

Oct 26 @ 4:19 PM ET
Long enough to make their season irrelevant.
- jmatchett383

Exactly.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Oct 26 @ 4:19 PM ET
rangerdanger hasn't been bad. Jimbro and the others come over to start stuff. I find rangerdanger to be at least civil.
- jmatchett383

Aww thanks guys

I'm gonna start hanging out here more often
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 26 @ 4:20 PM ET
Aww thanks guys

I'm gonna start hanging out here more often

- rangerdanger94


Your welcome is worn out, TROLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nah, you're the new stayinthefnnet
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 26 @ 4:22 PM ET
So the traditional umbrella setup is bad structure?

It's time to put the 1-3-1 to bed.

- Tomahawk


I think having the slot open, is bad structure, absolutely. In today's NHL, the way teams like to pressure the puck, it makes it too easy. I think you're completely wrong that it's time to put the 1-3-1 to bed. The Flyers PP sits at 26.9%, and they just scored 3 PP goals last night in the 3rd period to tie the game, and eventually win it.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 26 @ 4:22 PM ET
Ben Bishop and MAF (once Murray returns) make the most sense.
- jmatchett383

That was a crack at the Leafs expense.
section32
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 02.15.2007

Oct 26 @ 4:23 PM ET
Fine. Mason and AMac for Muzzin, Toffoli, and a 1st. LA says no. Phone hangs up.

Mason is the first legit #1 goalie the Flyers have had since Roman Cechmanek. He's been among the league leaders in 5v5 Save% since he became a Flyer. They finally have stability at that position. I'm not giving him up for rental parts because some teams says please.

- jmatchett383

So, you like Steve Mason, I take it? He has been better than OK. And better than Neuwirth over the last 7 games. It was Neuwirth that carried us at season's end last year. Mason has been rather streaky. (As have they both). Both are UFA's at year's end. Mason is at the heights of his value TODAY to a team that needs him.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 26 @ 4:25 PM ET
Remember when you made the SCF with Leighton and Boucher?

Sweet baby Jesus how in the world did that ever happen

- rangerdanger94


Remember game 82? That's how.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 26 @ 4:29 PM ET
So, you like Steve Mason, I take it? He has been better than OK. And better than Neuwirth over the last 7 games. It was Neuwirth that carried us at season's end last year. Mason has been rather streaky. (As have they both). Both are UFA's at year's end. Mason is at the heights of his value TODAY to a team that needs him.
- section32


Why doesn't that need and value pertain to the Flyers?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 26 @ 4:29 PM ET
So, you like Steve Mason, I take it? He has been better than OK. And better than Neuwirth over the last 7 games. It was Neuwirth that carried us at season's end last year. Mason has been rather streaky. (As have they both). Both are UFA's at year's end. Mason is at the heights of his value TODAY to a team that needs him.
- section32


Neuvirth was injured at the end of last year, Mason was the one who played like 12 straight games and got us in. Mason had a bad playoffs, but was the reason we made it.

Mason is their #1 unless he reverts back to his later CBJ days. If LA wants him, they'll have to overpay, ridiculously.

Mason has actually been fairly consistent during his Flyers tenure. Even during 14/15, he put up good numbers, and when you realize the piss poor defense he's had for the better part of his tenure, that's even mor eimpressive.

Neuvirth had a very nice (yet, also, very uneven) year last year. But Mason has shown he can put up good numbers playing the lion's share of games. Neuvirth has not. Unless someone ridiculously overpays for one of them, Ikeep them both in case of injury this year.

Edit: FWIW, the height of Mason's trade value was immediately following his rookie season.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 26 @ 4:30 PM ET
Aww thanks guys

I'm gonna start hanging out here more often

- rangerdanger94

Pour yourself a scotch and grab a seat. Any Rags fan who comes in saying (frank) the Rangers is ok in my book
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 26 @ 4:30 PM ET
Why doesn't that need and value pertain to the Flyers?
- MJL


Exactly. Unless LA gives us one of Doughty, Muzzin, Kopitar, or Toffoli (which they won't) for Mason, he's more valuable on the Flyers than as trade bait.
section32
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 02.15.2007

Oct 26 @ 4:36 PM ET
Neuvirth was injured at the end of last year, Mason was the one who played like 12 straight games and got us in. Mason had a bad playoffs, but was the reason we made it.

Mason is their #1 unless he reverts back to his later CBJ days. If LA wants him, they'll have to overpay, ridiculously.

Mason has actually been fairly consistent during his Flyers tenure. Even during 14/15, he put up good numbers, and when you realize the piss poor defense he's had for the better part of his tenure, that's even mor eimpressive.

Neuvirth had a very nice (yet, also, very uneven) year last year. But Mason has shown he can put up good numbers playing the lion's share of games. Neuvirth has not. Unless someone ridiculously overpays for one of them, Ikeep them both in case of injury this year.

- jmatchett383

I thought Mason got hurt and Neuwirth held down the fort.
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