What I understand so far....


Lefty it seems you are advocating for JV to play with the Sedins which has been mentioned but not tried for more then a shift or two last year.

Vantel wants more bangers on the team so JV can get more skilled linmates to play a power but skilled game.

Some others say to send JV down he's not ready for the NHL or needs to develop etc. as if somehow he will learn the NHL aspects missing in his game now in the AHL.

Guess playing against lesser talent and slower players teaches you those fine points.
- Nuck4U

I know it seems like I am pushing for JV to play with bangers but it is not exactly like that.

I am saying if you want him to bang the get him linemates to help him bang.

If you want him to score get him linemates to help him score.

Don't send him out to be the lone banger.

I'm starting to think you don't have any idea about the talent level and benefits of the AHL.

I would be willing to bet that JV could go down there and still not produce at a point per game rate, nor would he be dominating in any fashion. That is why many are suggesting he goes there, because if he can't dominate the AHL, there is zero chance he will dominate the NHL any time soon
- WhiteLie

I firmly believe, like a lot of the experts, that the main reason the 2003 draft class was so successful was because almost every one of those players spent the 2004/05 season in the American Hockey League.

So far I do, but that can change too, like anything else in life.
- LeftCoaster

Yeah, a couple of busts later and the drafting becomes a bone of contention instead of a symbol of worship.

Once upon a time, Gillis was a godsend for drafting Hodgson.

We'll see what the future brings.

Yeah, a couple of busts later and the drafting becomes a bone of contention instead of a symbol of worship.

Once upon a time, Gillis was a godsend for drafting Hodgson.

We'll see what the future brings.
- golfingsince

It's way too early to say but there is potential there....potential is meaningless unless realized though.

There are benefits ... sure.... but more often then not it's a necessity issue due to what's needed or available on the roster in the NHL.

Okay call JB tell him he's crazy keeping JV up bury him in the A ...

Lefty and Vantel will tell you it's the quality of the minutes and linemates and role that has caused issues for him.
- Nuck4U

There certainly are good arguments both ways, huh? Jake is not ready for a day to day spot but on the days he is hot, he is fantastic.... it's just those days became more and more rare as last season progressed.

I do not think he should have been here last year. Canucks had no one else to play so they had to have multiple rookies (7? at one point) on the team. In a perfect world, he would have stayed down one more season and came up far more professional, disciplined and ready.

There are benefits ... sure.... but more often then not it's a necessity issue due to what's needed or available on the roster in the NHL.

Okay call JB tell him he's crazy keeping JV up bury him in the A ...

Lefty and Vantel will tell you it's the quality of the minutes and linemates and role that has caused issues for him.
- Nuck4U

I'm saying give him 16 meaningful minutes in the NHL or 20+ in the AHL.

I think there are some people here that don't understand that... it's a professional league with professional players where you learn how to play like a professional. Some of the criticism we've seen of JV is lack of awareness and not showing up consistently, which is what it takes to be a pro. I personally think he should go down and play big minutes and a big role to learn how to shoulder that, while still learning the ins and outs of the bigs/defence/consistent confidence.
- NewYorkNuck

Well it seems there is a maturity issue with JV right now that is pushing this stance

WHo will score the first goal tonight...? Hmmm...?
- Nuck4U

Beartschi

It's way too early to say but there is potential there....potential is meaningless unless realized though.
- LeftCoaster

I potentially poop my pants but it was just a fart?

Whatever, Benning's drafting is my bastion of hope. Too early to start poopting on that.

I'm saying give him 16 meaningful minutes in the NHL or 20+ in the AHL.
- LeftCoaster

Sure give him the chance

Those trying to guess what I look like. I just did the national anthem

Beartschi
- onesmallleap

Those trying to guess what I look like. I just did the national anthem
- VANTEL

Old and fat?

Pretty sure I had that in the pool....

Old and fat?

Pretty sure I had that in the pool....
- golfingsince

You had someone old and fat in the pool? Pervert.

You had someone old and fat in the pool? Pervert.
- VANTEL

I know it seems like I am pushing for JV to play with bangers but it is not exactly like that.

I am saying if you want him to bang the get him linemates to help him bang.

If you want him to score get him linemates to help him score.

Don't send him out to be the lone banger.
- VANTEL

I said that about your view look at post again.... not to be the lone banger lol:

"Vantel wants more bangers on the team so JV can get more skilled linmates to play a power but skilled game. "

You had someone old and fat in the pool? Pervert.
- VANTEL

Dude, you kept bragging about how much you score so I had to take you. 2pts a night if I'm not mistaken......a young one and your wife.

man i wish Luca would just go off the boards and out

man i wish Luca would just go off the boards and out
- onesmallleap

I was thinking off the waivers and out.

man i wish Luca would just go off the boards and out
- onesmallleap

back to his pizza dishing ways

terrible change for the Horvat line

I would take 6 Hansens as the middle 6 forwards on my team.

There certainly are good arguments both ways, huh? Jake is not ready for a day to day spot but on the days he is hot, he is fantastic.... it's just those days became more and more rare as last season progressed.

I do not think he should have been here last year. Canucks had no one else to play so they had to have multiple rookies (7? at one point) on the team. In a perfect world, he would have stayed down one more season and came up far more professional, disciplined and ready.
- Beatle_john

should probably trade him

might as well get that conditional third and an echl player while you can

should probably trade him

might as well get that conditional third and an echl player while you can
- Tumbleweed

7-3


What a useless team you have boy.

That's so funny you stuttered