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Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Oct 24 @ 8:12 PM ET
I don't really think the Leafs and Jets are good trading partners here.
- Kinger34



Agreed!! both teams are loaded with young forwards and lack top 4 quality D prospects.

If the Jets have to trade Trouba they at least have to get a 18-20 year old previous first round pick D who is still projecting to be a top 4 guy plus something else. They are not going to get the left handed equilvalent to Trouba.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 24 @ 8:13 PM ET
You mis-read the proposal. You guys were getting Fowler + Toronto 2nd + Dermott/Nielsen. Now it's looking like less because these Leaf fans are greedy .

Ducks get JVR and cap relief to re-sign Lindholm.

- RonPielep


Clearly you haven't interacted with Ross too much. He's like JB but without the looks....
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Oct 24 @ 8:13 PM ET
Sure. And their do nothing gm can keep waiting for more while they miss the playoffs again.
- Tumbleweed


A lot of Leafs fans in Ek's thread seem to want the same for Toronto. It's funny how attached every team's fans are to their players. Especially their prospects.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Oct 24 @ 8:14 PM ET
He isn't any more overrated than Morgan Reilly.
- RonPielep

Leafs fans aren't proposing retarded deals where one team has to give up a (frank) load for Rielly.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 24 @ 8:15 PM ET
He isn't any more overrated than Morgan Reilly.
- RonPielep


TBF whenever he has had decent partners (i.e. Worlds, World cup) he's looked excellent. It's amazing what happens when you remove Hunwick or Marincin from his side...
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Oct 24 @ 8:15 PM ET
oh
- Santo_44


They are both very good young D men. I noticed both of them elevate their games after Ekblad went down at the WCoH.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Oct 24 @ 8:15 PM ET
What's the deal with Trouba, honestly? Is it just a question of ice-time? I look at your top 4, and I think, "yeah, Buf is top cheese for sure, but Trouba and Meyers have been pretty damn even for ice-time at around 22 mins... Rielly's doing that and isn't complaining, and he's barely getting any PP time".
- gravyface


I'm only guessing but I honestly think its not just Winnipeg, he doesn't want to play in Canada.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Oct 24 @ 8:16 PM ET
Agreed!! both teams are loaded with young forwards and lack top 4 quality D prospects.

If the Jets have to trade Trouba they at least have to get a 18-20 year old previous first round pick D who is still projecting to be a top 4 guy plus something else. They are not going to get the left handed equilvalent to Trouba.

- Ross77

I think they should just keep Trouba
Kinger34
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We may have already seen Matthews at his potential - SMBDragon, ON
Joined: 07.04.2011

Oct 24 @ 8:16 PM ET
A lot of Leafs fans in Ek's thread seem to want the same for Toronto. It's funny how attached every team's fans are to their players. Especially their prospects.
- RonPielep


Toronto isn't trading any prospects man. Not any named Marner, Matthews, Nylander, or Reilly (not really a prospect) anyway.

This isn't the Leafs of old.
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Oct 24 @ 8:17 PM ET
TBF whenever he has had decent partners (i.e. Worlds, World cup) he's looked excellent. It's amazing what happens when you remove Hunwick or Marincin from his side...
- lumlums


Same with Trouba. I thought they both looked great at the World Cup. Reilly was definitely more impressive with his skating and puck moving skills but Trouba had more of a physical edge to his game and a harder shot imo. Trouba is not a poor skater by any means.

gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Oct 24 @ 8:17 PM ET
He isn't any more overrated than Morgan Reilly.
- RonPielep


It's a question of optics: Rielly has the exact same amount of points as Lindholm, but took a modest deal compared with Jones, Risto, etc.; he also is just starting to get PP time, while quietly putting up points and logging 23+ minutes a night.

Trouba? He hasn't really done much, but wants out, and has been getting the same kind of minutes as Meyers... Buf ain't going to last forever; he'll slow down, he's 31, and I don't see him as a Chara Iron Man type guy (could be wrong there though).

Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Oct 24 @ 8:18 PM ET
TBF whenever he has had decent partners (i.e. Worlds, World cup) he's looked excellent. It's amazing what happens when you remove Hunwick or Marincin from his side...
- lumlums



Pair him with Zaitsev, and *boom* ...Norris.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Oct 24 @ 8:18 PM ET
Toronto isn't trading any prospects man. Not any named Marner, Matthews, Nylander, or Reilly (not really a prospect) anyway.

This isn't the Leafs of old.

- Kinger34

I think they continue to draft Dmen and not make any big trades
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 24 @ 8:18 PM ET
I'm only guessing but I honestly think its not just Winnipeg, he doesn't want to play in Canada.
- Ross77


Yes. Winnipeg = the rest of the country...




lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 24 @ 8:19 PM ET
Same with Trouba. I thought they both looked great at the World Cup. Reilly was definitely more impressive with his skating and puck moving skills but Trouba had more of a physical edge to his game and a harder shot imo. Trouba is not a poor skater by any means.
- RonPielep


Agreed. That's partly why I'd love to have them as a pair for like the next decade...
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 24 @ 8:20 PM ET
Pair him with Zaitsev, and *boom* ...Norris.
- Steven_Seagull



Gotta be honest though, I don't know why Rielly is paired not with Zaitsev yet.
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Oct 24 @ 8:20 PM ET
Leafs fans aren't proposing retarded deals where one team has to give up a (frank) load for Rielly.
- walshyleafsfan


They would be wise to, Rielly is worth a (frank) load.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Oct 24 @ 8:21 PM ET
considering salary cap of Ducks here is what is fair and works. Although I have already read that No Leaf fan would consider trading Nylander or Marner so obviously they will all shoot this down.

Trouba to Leafs for Marner or Nylander
then the Jets flip one of the above or Ehlers or Connor to the Ducks for Lindholm

Jets and Leafs come out with top pairing 22 year old D and the Ducks get an elite under 20 cheap expansion protected forward of their choice that helps their cap.

I'm going to log off now as not all of you!! but the Leaf fans that start typing how much better Marner and Nylander are over Connor and Ehlers will make me lose my poop, lol
Kinger34
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We may have already seen Matthews at his potential - SMBDragon, ON
Joined: 07.04.2011

Oct 24 @ 8:21 PM ET
I think they continue to draft Dmen and not make any big trades
- walshyleafsfan



I can see them trading a JVR, Kadri, Bozak or Komorov.

A trade involving Kadri would need to be an offer Lou couldn't refuse.

Agreed they will start targeting D-men.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Oct 24 @ 8:21 PM ET
They would be wise to, Rielly is worth a (frank) load.
- RonPielep

I can't see management trading him away.

They'll likely stay the course of drafting and developing
Kinger34
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We may have already seen Matthews at his potential - SMBDragon, ON
Joined: 07.04.2011

Oct 24 @ 8:22 PM ET
considering salary cap of Ducks here is what is fair and works. Although I have already read that No Leaf fan would consider trading Nylander or Marner so obviously they will all shoot this down.

Trouba to Leafs for Marner or Nylander
then the Jets flip one of the above or Ehlers or Connor to the Ducks for Lindholm

Jets and Leafs come out with top pairing 22 year old D and the Ducks get an elite under 20 cheap expansion protected forward of their choice that helps their cap.

I'm going to log off now as not all of you!! but the Leaf fans that start typing how much better Marner and Nylander are over Connor and Ehlers will make me lose my poop, lol

- Ross77


Probably good that you log off then.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Oct 24 @ 8:22 PM ET
considering salary cap of Ducks here is what is fair and works. Although I have already read that No Leaf fan would consider trading Nylander or Marner so obviously they will all shoot this down.

Trouba to Leafs for Marner or Nylander
then the Jets flip one of the above or Ehlers or Connor to the Ducks for Lindholm

Jets and Leafs come out with top pairing 22 year old D and the Ducks get an elite under 20 cheap expansion protected forward of their choice that helps their cap.

I'm going to log off now as not all of you!! but the Leaf fans that start typing how much better Marner and Nylander are over Connor and Ehlers will make me lose my poop, lol

- Ross77

WTF is this?
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 24 @ 8:22 PM ET
considering salary cap of Ducks here is what is fair and works. Although I have already read that No Leaf fan would consider trading Nylander or Marner so obviously they will all shoot this down.

Trouba to Leafs for Marner or Nylander
then the Jets flip one of the above or Ehlers or Connor to the Ducks for Lindholm


Jets and Leafs come out with top pairing 22 year old D and the Ducks get an elite under 20 cheap expansion protected forward of their choice that helps their cap.

I'm going to log off now as not all of you!! but the Leaf fans that start typing how much better Marner and Nylander are over Connor and Ehlers will make me lose my poop, lol

- Ross77


Lolwut?
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 24 @ 8:23 PM ET
WTF is this?
- walshyleafsfan


An example of what happens when cousins marry...
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Oct 24 @ 8:23 PM ET


Gotta be honest though, I don't know why Rielly is paired not with Zaitsev yet.

- lumlums



Could you imagine what will happen with a Hunwick - Polak pairing? Oh wait...
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