To Toronto - Trouba
To Winnipeg - Fowler + Toronto 2nd + Dermott/Nielsen?
To Anaheim - JVR (50% salary retained)

I tried.
- RonPielep

Why does Toronto even get anything?

Don't forget 50% salary retained.

Lums is off his tits
- walshyleafsfan

I will go no higher than 2 firsts and a second.

If he would take a Rielly contract then I'd do that
- lumlums

Huh?

Jvr (retained salary) a 2nd and dermott is waaaaaaayyyto much.

JVR, a 2nd, and a prospect for Trouba?

That's a (frank)ing train wreck.
- Kinger34

To put it in a better context, that's JVR with one more year left after this on his contract. That's the biggest piece you are adding.

The biggest piece you are receiving is Trouba who is an RFA and can be locked up long term at around Rielly money (we're assuming that's the case).

The rest is a 2nd and a prospect.

I'd imagine they'd be all (frank)ing over it.
- walshyleafsfan

Well then that's a good start because the Leafs are the ones with the add ins (i.e., 2nd + Dermott/Nielsen) that can be adjusted if it's an unfair deal for them.

In other words a deal centered around:

Trouba - Toronto
Fowler - Winnipeg
JVR (retained salary) - Ducks

But I think the Jets need more than Fowler for 2 years coming back in return for Trouba.

To put it in a better context, that's JVR with one more year left after this on his contract. That's the biggest piece you are adding.

The biggest piece you are receiving is Trouba who is an RFA and can be locked up long term at around Rielly money (we're assuming that's the case).

The rest is a 2nd and a prospect.
- RonPielep

I will go no higher than 2 firsts and a second.
- Kinger34

Deal

To put it in a better context, that's JVR with one more year left after this on his contract. That's the biggest piece you are adding.

The biggest piece you are receiving is Trouba who is an RFA and can be locked up long term at around Rielly money (we're assuming that's the case).

The rest is a 2nd and a prospect.
- RonPielep

For what the leafs are getting jar retained is already an overpay....

I will go no higher than 2 firsts and a second.
- Kinger34

You mean 2 fists and a slut

For what the leafs are getting jar retained is already an overpay....
- burn

Jar jar binks

You mean 2 fists and a slut
- Landsbergfan

*moves to position*

To put it in a better context, that's JVR with one more year left after this on his contract. That's the biggest piece you are adding.

The biggest piece you are receiving is Trouba who is an RFA and can be locked up long term at around Rielly money (we're assuming that's the case).

The rest is a 2nd and a prospect.
- RonPielep

For a high maintenance unproven D-man that isn't even top 2 pairing in Winnipeg.

And don't tell me that he would instantly become top pairing in Toronto. Marincin was too, so that's not saying much.

You mean 2 fists and a slut
- Landsbergfan

Giggidy giggidy goo

Well then that's a good start because the Leafs are the ones with the add ins (i.e., 2nd + Dermott/Nielsen) that can be adjusted if it's an unfair deal for them.

In other words a deal centered around:

Trouba - Toronto
Fowler - Winnipeg
JVR (retained salary) - Ducks

But I think the Jets need more than Fowler for 2 years coming back in return for Trouba.
- RonPielep

So Anaheim get a 25-30 goal scorer for about 2.25 million dollars a season and get to resign a guy they are dying to resign.

Winnipeg get a top 4 Dman to replace the one that doesn't want to play with them anymore.

Leafs get the privilege of trading the 31st-35th pick, a 25-30 goal scorer (whom they will carry on paying 2.25 ish mil for nothing) and 1 of their 2 best d prospects for Trouba.

(frank), Leafs are taking everyone to the cleaners.

To put it in a better context, that's JVR with one more year left after this on his contract. That's the biggest piece you are adding.

The biggest piece you are receiving is Trouba who is an RFA and can be locked up long term at around Rielly money (we're assuming that's the case).

The rest is a 2nd and a prospect.
- RonPielep

flames paid a mid-first and 2 seconds for hamitlon

assuming jvr is worth a mid-first and a 2nd then jvr plus 2nd for trouba

i'm not seeing that has a good fit for the jets though

So Anaheim get a 25-30 goal scorer for about 2.4 million dollars a season and get to resign a guy they are dying to resign.

Winnipeg get a top 4 Dman to replace the one that doesn't want to play with them anymore.

Leafs get the privilege of trading the 31st-35th pick, a 25-30 goal scorer (whom they will carry on paying 2.25 ish mil for nothing) and 1 of their 2 best d prospects for Trouba.

(frank), Leafs are taking everyone to the cleaners.

- walshyleafsfan

Take off your blue and white goggles, this is an even trade because Leafs.

flames overpaid a mid-first and 2 seconds for hamitlon

assuming jvr is worth a mid-first and a 2nd then jvr plus 2nd for trouba

i'm not seeing that has a good fit for the jets though
- Tumbleweed

Fixed

flames paid a mid-first and 2 seconds for hamitlon

assuming jvr is worth a mid-first and a 2nd then jvr plus 2nd for trouba

i'm not seeing that has a good fit for the jets though
- Tumbleweed

That's why I made it a 3-way deal.

You're basically saying my deal needs to be corrected by removing Dermott/Nielsen, i.e.,

Trouba - Toronto
Fowler + Toronto 2nd - Winnipeg
JVR (salary retained) - Anaheim.

Although you made no mention of salary retained.

Just because the Oilers were (frank)ing dumb dosen't mean D man are worth the world...

Look at Nick Leddy and Dougie Hamilton trades.

Leddy is the most comparable to these teams situations..Chicago had to move Leddy because of cap concerns so they had to sell him below his value.

Habs was wise to let Weise go.

For what the leafs are getting jar retained is already an overpay....
- burn

In that initial 3-way deal I mentioned, where we assume Trouba would accept a Reilly like contract, Trouba is the most valuable single piece involved imo.

Fowler <2Y @ 4M
JVR <2Y @ 2.2M
Trouba 5-6Y @ 5.4M

I think I take Trouba out of those 3 every day of the week. Especially if I'm Toronto where they have good depth at forward, a gaping hole on RD, and are not poised to be contenders during JVRs remaining contract but Trouba's would fit their window well. It's not even really close.

Which is why I added Dermott/Nielsen + 2nd. But those add-ins can be altered, that's why I posted it, to see what you guys thought. Sounds like some of you wouldn't even trade JVR (50% retained) for Trouba straight up.

That's why I made it a 3-way deal.

You're basically saying my deal needs to be corrected by removing Dermott/Nielsen, i.e.,

Trouba - Toronto
Fowler + Toronto 2nd - Winnipeg
JVR (salary retained) - Anaheim.

Although you made no mention of salary retained.
- RonPielep

I wouldn’t retain salary for this year and next.

Ducks can send an expiring contract our way .idk, Thompson along with a 3rd for us having to bury him.

I wouldn’t retain salary for this year and next.

Ducks can send an expiring contract our way .idk, Thompson along with a 3rd for us having to bury him.
- Tumbleweed

I don't understand how Winnipeg would get Fowler plus a second for Trouba.

Leddy brought in

Pokka, Nilson and TJ Brennan

so..a solid A- prospect, a backup goalie and a fringe NHL player. This is what Trouba will get.

Just for clarity it's Neilson OR Dermott. You can choose. Salary retained on JVR is non-negotiable .

I wonder what Jets/Ducks fans would think of that deal.
- RonPielep

as a Jets fan, how does JVR help our rebuilding team better than yours? we have as many elite forward prospects as the Leafs and as many B rated D prospects as the Leafs so trading Trouba for 2 probable non playoff or at least non cup contending years of JVR plus a possible #5-8 D and a 2nd makes zero sense. Let Trouba sit until he decides to come back or we can work out a propper trade.

side note. Would you guys trade Morgan (looks like Kessel's little brother ) Riely for that deal? or for some of the deals your making for Lindholm? absolutely not.