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walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Oct 24 @ 8:03 PM ET
Take off your blue and white goggles, this is an even trade because Leafs.
- Kinger34



People have to realise they are talking about Jacob Trouba.

Jacob (frank)ing Trouba.

This guys in the upper echelon of overrated players with E. Kane, Nichuskin, Eberle, RNH, ROR and Nash.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 24 @ 8:04 PM ET
You would?

Jvr + Neilson/Dermott + 2nd+ salary retained?

- systemtool


No on the salary retained. But I'd give up JvR plus (reasonable) IF Trouba was locked in at a good price for a few years.
Kinger34
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We may have already seen Matthews at his potential - SMBDragon, ON
Joined: 07.04.2011

Oct 24 @ 8:04 PM ET
as a Jets fan, how does JVR help our rebuilding team better than yours? we have as many elite forward prospects as the Leafs and as many B rated D prospects as the Leafs so trading Trouba for 2 probable non playoff or at least non cup contending years of JVR plus a possible #5-8 D and a 2nd makes zero sense. Let Trouba sit until he decides to come back or we can work out a propper trade.

side note. Would you guys trade Morgan (looks like Kessel's little brother ) Riely for that deal? or for some of the deals your making for Lindholm? absolutely not.

- Ross77


I agree, JVR is not needed in Winnipeg.

(frank) me I didn't realize how much talent they had until the other night. They are on the cusp right now for sure.
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Oct 24 @ 8:04 PM ET
I wouldn’t retain salary for this year and next.

Ducks can send an expiring contract our way .idk, Thompson along with a 3rd for us having to bury him.

- Tumbleweed


Yeah one or the other really. Just needs to allow the Ducks to re-sign Lindholm and fit JVR.

Trouba + Ducks 4th + Nate Thompson - Leafs
Fowler + Toronto 2nd - Jets
JVR - Ducks

Feel like Jets fans would want more?

Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 24 @ 8:04 PM ET


People have to realise they are talking about Jacob Trouba.

Jacob (frank)ing Trouba.

This guys in the upper echelon of overrated players with E. Kane, Nichuskin, Eberle, RNH, ROR and Nash.

- walshyleafsfan


Hall for Larson just (frank)ed everything up
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Oct 24 @ 8:04 PM ET
Love the trade proposals guys. Keep em up. I like the ones that have salary retained too.


Toronto send A, B + retained salary

Team sends C


The retained salary is now the new 2nd rounder
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Oct 24 @ 8:04 PM ET
Habs was wise to let Weise go.
- Landsbergfan

Who?
Kinger34
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We may have already seen Matthews at his potential - SMBDragon, ON
Joined: 07.04.2011

Oct 24 @ 8:04 PM ET


People have to realise they are talking about Jacob Trouba.

Jacob (frank)ing Trouba.

This guys in the upper echelon of overrated players with E. Kane, Nichuskin, Eberle, RNH, ROR and Nash.

- walshyleafsfan


Dion Phaneuflike and Phil Kesselish
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Oct 24 @ 8:05 PM ET
Yeah one or the other really. Just needs to allow the Ducks to re-sign Lindholm and fit JVR.

Trouba + Ducks 4th + Nate Thompson - Leafs
Fowler + Toronto 2nd - Jets
JVR - Ducks

Feel like Jets fans would want more?

- RonPielep


I think it comes down to more of what management wants
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 24 @ 8:06 PM ET
Yeah one or the other really. Just needs to allow the Ducks to re-sign Lindholm and fit JVR.

Trouba + Ducks 4th + Nate Thompson - Leafs
Fowler + Toronto 2nd - Jets
JVR - Ducks

Feel like Jets fans would want more?

- RonPielep


Jets fans will be extremely disipointed with what they get for him anyways.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Oct 24 @ 8:07 PM ET
No 3-way deal, they are super rare for a reason.

I would prefer Trouba over Fowler, more upside, a bit younger, but not by much.

I think Anaheim is a solid trade partner for us and I think the cap crunch they're under plus having their own "Trouba" to sign in Lindholm, really amps the urgency over there.

Still, I think we're weeks away, probably mid-November/December before players and teams start getting desperate.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 24 @ 8:07 PM ET
Hall for Larson just (frank)ed everything up
- Santo_44



The ideal would be a straight three-way jig of Trouba, Fowler and JvR
Kinger34
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We may have already seen Matthews at his potential - SMBDragon, ON
Joined: 07.04.2011

Oct 24 @ 8:07 PM ET
No on the salary retained. But I'd give up JvR plus (reasonable) IF Trouba was locked in at a good price for a few years.
- lumlums


I don't really think the Leafs and Jets are good trading partners here.
Kinger34
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We may have already seen Matthews at his potential - SMBDragon, ON
Joined: 07.04.2011

Oct 24 @ 8:07 PM ET
No 3-way deal, they are super rare for a reason.

I would prefer Trouba over Fowler, more upside, a bit younger, but not by much.

I think Anaheim is a solid trade partner for us and I think the cap crunch they're under plus having their own "Trouba" to sign in Lindholm, really amps the urgency over there.

Still, I think we're weeks away, probably mid-November/December before players and teams start getting desperate.

- gravyface


Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Oct 24 @ 8:08 PM ET
Yeah one or the other really. Just needs to allow the Ducks to re-sign Lindholm and fit JVR.

Trouba + Ducks 4th + Nate Thompson - Leafs
Fowler + Toronto 2nd - Jets
JVR - Ducks

Feel like Jets fans would want more?

- RonPielep


Sure. And their do nothing gm can keep waiting for more while they miss the playoffs again.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Oct 24 @ 8:08 PM ET
Yeah one or the other really. Just needs to allow the Ducks to re-sign Lindholm and fit JVR.

Trouba + Ducks 4th + Nate Thompson - Leafs
Fowler + Toronto 2nd - Jets
JVR - Ducks

Feel like Jets fans would want more?

- RonPielep


We are in the same boat as you guys, 2-3 years away from probably making serious noise in the NHL so taking Fowler who is a UFA in less than 2 years doesnt make alot of sense, especially when we own Trouba's rights for the next 4 years.
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Oct 24 @ 8:08 PM ET
as a Jets fan, how does JVR help our rebuilding team better than yours? we have as many elite forward prospects as the Leafs and as many B rated D prospects as the Leafs so trading Trouba for 2 probable non playoff or at least non cup contending years of JVR plus a possible #5-8 D and a 2nd makes zero sense. Let Trouba sit until he decides to come back or we can work out a propper trade.

side note. Would you guys trade Morgan (looks like Kessel's little brother ) Riely for that deal? or for some of the deals your making for Lindholm? absolutely not.

- Ross77


You mis-read the proposal. You guys were getting Fowler + Toronto 2nd + Dermott/Nielsen. Now it's looking like less because these Leaf fans are greedy .

Ducks get JVR and cap relief to re-sign Lindholm.
Kinger34
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We may have already seen Matthews at his potential - SMBDragon, ON
Joined: 07.04.2011

Oct 24 @ 8:09 PM ET
You mis-read the proposal. You guys were getting Fowler + Toronto 2nd + Dermott/Nielsen. Now it's looking like less because these Leaf fans are greedy .

Ducks get JVR and cap relief to re-sign Lindholm.

- RonPielep


Leafy trades are Leafy.

Toronto doesn't need to make a trade like this. They aren't feeling the pressure to win. That package has more value than a unproven commodity.
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Oct 24 @ 8:10 PM ET


People have to realise they are talking about Jacob Trouba.

Jacob (frank)ing Trouba.

This guys in the upper echelon of overrated players with E. Kane, Nichuskin, Eberle, RNH, ROR and Nash.

- walshyleafsfan


He isn't any more overrated than Morgan Reilly.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 24 @ 8:10 PM ET


The ideal would be a straight three-way jig of Trouba, Fowler and JvR

- lumlums

And thats as high as anyone should believe they would go

I love JVR though

but I would do it.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 24 @ 8:11 PM ET
He isn't any more overrated than Morgan Reilly.
- RonPielep

oh
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Oct 24 @ 8:11 PM ET
I don't really think the Leafs and Jets are good trading partners here.
- Kinger34



Agreed. Plus, I ain't sure the Jets' GM trades
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Oct 24 @ 8:12 PM ET
You guys hate JVR because he is made of glass like Lupul
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Oct 24 @ 8:12 PM ET
We are in the same boat as you guys, 2-3 years away from probably making serious noise in the NHL so taking Fowler who is a UFA in less than 2 years doesnt make alot of sense, especially when we own Trouba's rights for the next 4 years.
- Ross77


What's the deal with Trouba, honestly? Is it just a question of ice-time? I look at your top 4, and I think, "yeah, Buf is top cheese for sure, but Trouba and Meyers have been pretty damn even for ice-time at around 22 mins... Rielly's doing that and isn't complaining, and he's barely getting any PP time".

Kinger34
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We may have already seen Matthews at his potential - SMBDragon, ON
Joined: 07.04.2011

Oct 24 @ 8:12 PM ET
He isn't any more overrated than Morgan Reilly.
- RonPielep



Who overrates Reilly other than non-Leafs fans who tell Leafs fans that they overrate him?

Reilly is a #2 d-man with #1 potential.
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