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flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Oct 24 @ 6:01 PM ET
Hebrew National Pork Rolls are the best
- Mononoke


For curiosity whats the deal with the whole no pork thing. Like why is it not allowed?
MikesPillBottle
Joined: 07.01.2015

Oct 24 @ 6:24 PM ET
For curiosity whats the deal with the whole no pork thing. Like why is it not allowed?
- flyer_nutter


I freaking hate pork. Refuse to eat it.

Hate chicken too. But love me some cow.

Not sure why Islam hates it though
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 24 @ 6:27 PM ET
Taylor is the only brand...
- dragonoffrost

Agreed. Everything else is literally terrible.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 24 @ 6:30 PM ET
For curiosity whats the deal with the whole no pork thing. Like why is it not allowed?
- flyer_nutter


Religiously, both Islam & Judaism bans it because it is unclean. There is a process through the Torah which food may be made kosher, or "fit to eat".

Most likely, the ease of people getting sick from undercooked pork products, as well as the arid area that most early Jews and Muslims lived in were the rationale for the pork and other food bans. Shellfish are banned, too.

Or maybe it's the same reason my grandfather explained why Catholics couldn't eat meat on Fridays. He told me, when I was about 7, that "All the Goddamned apostles were fishermen, and they used Jesus to sell their catch"
MikesPillBottle
Joined: 07.01.2015

Oct 24 @ 6:37 PM ET
Religiously, both Islam & Judaism bans it because it is unclean. There is a process through the Torah which food may be made kosher, or "fit to eat".

Most likely, the ease of people getting sick from undercooked pork products, as well as the arid area that most early Jews and Muslims lived in were the rationale for the pork and other food bans. Shellfish are banned, too.

Or maybe it's the same reason my grandfather explained why Catholics couldn't eat meat on Fridays. He told me, when I was about 7, that "All the Goddamned apostles were fishermen, and they used Jesus to sell their catch"

- Jsaquella

They say eating a fish a week is great for you.

But science also told me fish oil pills were good for me too. Turns out they were paid to say that.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Oct 24 @ 6:39 PM ET
He'll get slew footed by Shaw and blamed for it by DoPS
- Jsaquella


Will he also get suspended for receiving the slew foot?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 24 @ 6:41 PM ET
Religiously, both Islam & Judaism bans it because it is unclean. There is a process through the Torah which food may be made kosher, or "fit to eat".

Most likely, the ease of people getting sick from undercooked pork products, as well as the arid area that most early Jews and Muslims lived in were the rationale for the pork and other food bans. Shellfish are banned, too.

Or maybe it's the same reason my grandfather explained why Catholics couldn't eat meat on Fridays. He told me, when I was about 7, that "All the Goddamned apostles were fishermen, and they used Jesus to sell their catch"

- Jsaquella


Makes sense. When I asked my dad why great uncle David wouldn't eat bacon, dad simply sat me down, considered it for a minute, and said: "cause Uncle Dave is a schmuck"
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 24 @ 6:41 PM ET
Will he also get suspended for receiving the slew foot?
- ob18

Of course, duh
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 24 @ 6:42 PM ET
They say eating a fish a week is great for you.

But science also told me fish oil pills were good for me too. Turns out they were paid to say that.

- MikesPillBottle

Clinical trials support 4 g of fish oil daily for triglyceride lowering capabilities.

Additionally, evidence has shown fatty fish oil improves cardiac outcomes and should be increased in all folks' diet. In at risk patients, fish oil supplementation is warranted.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 24 @ 6:43 PM ET
Makes sense. When I asked my dad why great uncle David wouldn't eat bacon, dad simply sat me down, considered it for a minute, and said: "cause Uncle Dave is a schmuck"
- BiggE

Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Oct 24 @ 6:44 PM ET
Makes sense. When I asked my dad why great uncle David wouldn't eat bacon, dad simply sat me down, considered it for a minute, and said: "cause Uncle Dave is a schmuck"
- BiggE

My uncle dave is also a schmuck
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 24 @ 6:46 PM ET
My Uncle Dave was also a schmuck. Then he tried bacon, died, and became a dead schmuck.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 24 @ 6:48 PM ET
My Uncle Dave was also a schmuck. Then he tried bacon, died, and became a dead schmuck.
- Mononoke

Logically then, it stands to reason, all Uncle Daves are schmucks
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 24 @ 6:48 PM ET
Also,
(frank) the Rangers!
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Oct 24 @ 6:57 PM ET
Sitting in an airport with wifi for the next few minutes.
Missed the start of the season unfortunately.

It sounds like Matt Read and Manning are off to good starts.

Do you think they will end up protecting Manning in the expansion draft if he keeps it up?

Great to see Read playing well.

How's Konecny doing?
From what I can tell Provorov has been up and down a bit, completely expected I guess.

VDV still playing every game too which is awesome.

flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Oct 24 @ 6:59 PM ET
Sitting in an airport with wifi for the next few minutes.
Missed the start of the season unfortunately.

It sounds like Matt Read and Manning are off to good starts.

Do you think they will end up protecting Manning in the expansion draft if he keeps it up?

Great to see Read playing well.

How's Konecny doing?
From what I can tell Provorov has been up and down a bit, completely expected I guess.

VDV still playing every game too which is awesome.

- Marc D


I havent been able to watch much of them this year either. Funny thing to me is Manning seems to be growing. Taking on the increasing role well and not faltering. Good for him, and the club.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 24 @ 7:02 PM ET
Protecting Manning kind of puts a kibosh in the whole expansion fodder business. At that point they'd have to play MacDonald over half the season, and it means MDZ is not resigned. I doubt Manning gets taken by Vegas anyway. If they do, whatever, no great loss, even as well as he has been playing. We will have a couple new kiddies who will be in the lineup next year.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Oct 24 @ 7:03 PM ET
I havent been able to watch much of them this year either. Funny thing to me is Manning seems to be growing. Taking on the increasing role well and not faltering. Good for him, and the club.
- flyer_nutter

Flyers management saw something in him that I was missing.
They stuck with him last season and now he is rewarding them.
Hope he keeps it up.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Oct 24 @ 7:05 PM ET
Protecting Manning kind of puts a kibosh in the whole expansion fodder business. At that point they'd have to play MacDonald over half the season, and it means MDZ is not resigned. I doubt Manning gets taken by Vegas anyway. If they do, whatever, no great loss, even as well as he has been playing. We will have a couple new kiddies who will be in the lineup next year.
- Mononoke

I could see Vegas taking him. Pretty cheap and still young(ish).

Re upping MDZ will be expensive, I think.
Unless he keeps getting injured.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 24 @ 7:06 PM ET
Sitting in an airport with wifi for the next few minutes.
Missed the start of the season unfortunately.

It sounds like Matt Read and Manning are off to good starts.

Do you think they will end up protecting Manning in the expansion draft if he keeps it up?

Great to see Read playing well.

How's Konecny doing?
From what I can tell Provorov has been up and down a bit, completely expected I guess.

VDV still playing every game too which is awesome.

- Marc D

Read has the skating legs back. Yay.

Manning is looking good, you're right. I think he'll at least make a case to be protected. Who'dathunk we'd have too many defensive cooks in the kitchen?

Konecny and his line have been great. He's fast and skilled and has great vision. It's pretty evident.

Provorov has been a little unlucky too, but yeah, up and down. Take away that Hawks game and he's been pretty solid for a 19 year old, if you want to look at it that way.

VDV is literally terrible.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 24 @ 7:08 PM ET
I could see Vegas taking him. Pretty cheap and still young(ish).
- Marc D


There are still far better d men to take if you do the mock expansion drafts. If they do take him.....we will survive. He's been playing like a legit bottom pair guy, but he's still nothing special long-term. That means Laughton, Cousins, Read, etc. are still here anyway. If they take him, they take him. There's no one else to expose unless MacDonald is here half the season, and with Provorov, Gudas, MDZ, Ghost, Manning, and Streit, fitting him in won't be easy. Or good.

Personally, I could see them taking Weise or Neuvirth.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Oct 24 @ 7:08 PM ET
Read has the skating legs back. Yay.

Manning is looking good, you're right. I think he'll at least make a case to be protected. Who'dathunk we'd have too many defensive cooks in the kitchen?

Konecny and his line have been great. He's fast and skilled and has great vision. It's pretty evident.

Provorov has been a little unlucky too, but yeah, up and down. Take away that Hawks game and he's been pretty solid for a 19 year old, if you want to look at it that way.

VDV is literally terrible.

- Giroux_Is_God


Thanks!
Playing big minutes vs Kane Panarin Arty line would stress 95% of established NHL D

Great learning experience for him, welcome to the big leagues.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 24 @ 7:10 PM ET
Protecting Manning kind of puts a kibosh in the whole expansion fodder business. At that point they'd have to play MacDonald over half the season, and it means MDZ is not resigned. I doubt Manning gets taken by Vegas anyway. If they do, whatever, no great loss, even as well as he has been playing. We will have a couple new kiddies who will be in the lineup next year.
- Mononoke


I personally don't think that a cavalier attitude should be taken towards possibly losing Manning in the expansion draft. Having a player that you developed, that can play a solid 3rd pairing role, for a low cap hit, is a valuable player in a cap environment. You could argue that you can always find a 3rd pair defender in free agency, but I'd argue that you'd probably have to overpay somewhat, and I think continuity on a team, is important.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 24 @ 7:12 PM ET
LeBrun: I think at some point #NYR will do everything they can to trade for a Top-4 D, or get some help on D, between now & trade deadline.


Hmm. We have a few "top-4 D". But to trade them to a hated division rival? What a tough pill to swallow!



Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 24 @ 7:15 PM ET
Landsbergfan, your sister is a pretty girl.
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