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AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 24 @ 10:33 PM ET
Can someone check to see if Brayden Schenn is alive? It's been 3 games, he's healthy, and played all preseason. He looks horrendous so far. He looked fine in preseason. But he's just killing that line doing absolutely nothing: not carrying it in, not winning battles, not shooting, not passing, just coughing it up. If it was VDV at LW, I wouldn't notice the difference.

That line looked infinitely better all over the ice before Raffl got injured.

- Mononoke


He did look a half-step behind tonight. I don't know. Hate to start killing everybody already, because Montreal gets paid too, but yeah. They didn't play well enough to win, and some guys were pretty ineffective
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 24 @ 10:39 PM ET
He did look a half-step behind tonight. I don't know. Hate to start killing everybody already, because Montreal gets paid too, but yeah. They didn't play well enough to win, and some guys were pretty ineffective
- AllInForFlyers


Schenn has been bad in 3 straight games and needs to get his head out of his ass. That line was really clicking with Raffl-G-Simmer, and Schenn is a better scorer than Raffl. He's just been ineffective or invisible.
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Oct 24 @ 10:40 PM ET
Streit needs to be benched tomorrow with the return of Gudas. He is absolutely a liability back there on almost every shift. He brings very little offensively anymore either.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 24 @ 10:41 PM ET
Can't (frank)ing wait for Radko.



Yes, you.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 24 @ 10:42 PM ET
Schenn has been bad in 3 straight games and needs to get his head out of his ass. That line was really clicking with Raffl-G-Simmer, and Schenn is a better scorer than Raffl. He's just been ineffective or invisible.
- Mononoke


It's so frustrating when he plays like that, too -- he earned his extension, was a major reason they made the playoffs last season. But he can really make you scratch your head
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 24 @ 10:43 PM ET
Streit needs to be benched tomorrow with the return of Gudas. He is absolutely a liability back there on almost every shift. He brings very little offensively anymore either.
- Buzzo


Streit has been bad. And still not the worst d man in the lineup. It has to be Schultz or AMac. Probably the latter.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Oct 24 @ 10:43 PM ET
Yeah, he really should tell Ghostisbehere he's allowed to skate with the puck. He looks so timid out there.

Your hate for Varsity is as ridiculous as 2Real and Mason. Quick tape to tape passing is a good thing in hockey. It's called a breakout. 30 NHL teams "coach" it.

- Giroux_Is_God

Don't be so touchy. It's just a name.

How many NHL coaches would be so married to VDV? Thank god we have the one out of 30.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 24 @ 11:01 PM ET
Can someone check to see if Brayden Schenn is alive? It's been 3 games, he's healthy, and played all preseason. He looks horrendous so far. He looked fine in preseason. But he's just killing that line doing absolutely nothing: not carrying it in, not winning battles, not shooting, not passing, just coughing it up. If it was VDV at LW, I wouldn't notice the difference. He's been consistently the worst possession forward or thereabouts every game so far.

That line looked infinitely better all over the ice before Raffl got injured.

- Mononoke


Maybe he's trying to get demoted to 3C.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 24 @ 11:22 PM ET
Streit has been bad. And still not the worst d man in the lineup. It has to be Schultz or AMac. Probably the latter.
- Mononoke


I think Streit has been the worst. He's been awful. So many glaring errors in positioning, with the puck...I cringe when I see him out there anymore. Trouble is, MacDonald has arguably been just as bad.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Oct 24 @ 11:26 PM ET
There are still far better d men to take if you do the mock expansion drafts. If they do take him.....we will survive. He's been playing like a legit bottom pair guy, but he's still nothing special long-term. That means Laughton, Cousins, Read, etc. are still here anyway. If they take him, they take him. There's no one else to expose unless MacDonald is here half the season, and with Provorov, Gudas, MDZ, Ghost, Manning, and Streit, fitting him in won't be easy. Or good.

Personally, I could see them taking Weise or Neuvirth.

- Mononoke

Neuvirth for sure.
How's Weise been playing so far?
Other then the suspension
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 24 @ 11:33 PM ET
Neuvirth for sure.
How's Weise been playing so far?
Other then the suspension

- Marc D


Largely a non factor when he's been in.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 24 @ 11:37 PM ET
Don't be so touchy. It's just a name.

How many NHL coaches would be so married to VDV? Thank god we have the one out of 30.

- flyer_nutter


i do thank god for that at least once or twice a day.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 24 @ 11:42 PM ET
Largely a non factor when he's been in.
- Jsaquella


Hated the signing when I read it at a rest stop driving to Boston on July 1st. Hate it now.

He will improve certainly, but he looked the part of average bottom 6 guy having career year before the signing. He hasn't shown much else so far here. Even if he does improve, he is not better than Raffl and Read. Not by a longshot. That makes him now a 4th line forward signed for 3 more years. I'm hoping Vegas will take HIM. And with some inexpensive term, size, and grit for the West, maybe they do.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 24 @ 11:43 PM ET
i do thank god for that at least once or twice a day.
- stayinthefnnet


stayinthefnnet, hello
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 25 @ 12:08 AM ET
stayinthefnnet, hello
- Mononoke


Mononoke, right back at ya!
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Oct 25 @ 12:17 AM ET
Hated the signing when I read it at a rest stop driving to Boston on July 1st. Hate it now.

He will improve certainly, but he looked the part of average bottom 6 guy having career year before the signing. He hasn't shown much else so far here. Even if he does improve, he is not better than Raffl and Read. Not by a longshot. That makes him now a 4th line forward signed for 3 more years. I'm hoping Vegas will take HIM. And with some inexpensive term, size, and grit for the West, maybe they do.

- Mononoke

In the mock expansion drafts which D are claimed by Vegas?
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 25 @ 12:19 AM ET
In the mock expansion drafts which D are claimed by Vegas?
- Marc D


It's been a couple months since I did one, but the d pool actually seems a bit stronger than the forwards. That is if McPhee is smart, which is a strong uncertainty.

As seen from McPhee's eyes, names like Josh Manson, Jokipakka, TVR, Wiercioch, David Savard/Jack Johnson, Reinhart, Pysyk, Brodin, Emelin, de Haan, Kevin Klein, Paul Martin/Mirco Mueller, Gunnarsson, Garrison/Coby/Nesterov/Sustr/Koekkoek, Orlov. Obviously it depends on what forwards are available for each team too, but there's a decent pool.
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Oct 25 @ 12:39 AM ET
I think Streit has been the worst. He's been awful. So many glaring errors in positioning, with the puck...I cringe when I see him out there anymore. Trouble is, MacDonald has arguably been just as bad.
- Jsaquella


We can't get MDZ and Gudas back fast enough (well Gudas tomorrow) But I have this feeling Streit will remain in the line up unfortunately. His positioning has been so bad, steady out of position. He has no speed, not they he did, but he lost a major step. He looks like he has no confidence with puck on his stick in every zone on the ice. Turnover machine lately. I agree , every time he is on the ice, I cringe and expect a screw up. He needs to sit.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 25 @ 7:45 AM ET
Streit has been bad. And still not the worst d man in the lineup. It has to be Schultz or AMac. Probably the latter.
- Mononoke


That's false, both Schultz and MacDonald have both been better that Streit. Another example of a lack of objectivity and or bias.
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