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DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Oct 24 @ 12:30 PM ET
I always liked Markov's vision on the ice and his ability to pass.

Should be interesting to see if Radulov can do a better job than Markov to set up Weber for his booming shot.


Still early in the year, so it's not a bad idea to try different combinations.

- Garfield512


i think the depends on them being able to threaten down low on the PP. if they can't, then teams will key in on Weber's shot same way they did on Subban's last year. i think until Montreal proves dangerous up front, it will be tough to get Weber in prime position to really step into it.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Oct 24 @ 12:31 PM ET
He didn't mean it.
- hscesq


agreed. pretty sure his intention was to take out both knees, not just one.
Fredo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: As-tu vu l’ostie de réalisateur de game de soccer de marde avec son ostie de caméra aérienne?
Joined: 03.16.2015

Oct 24 @ 12:32 PM ET
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I'd like Kreider to try that again this year ... there's a new man mountain on the blue line to take his head off if he tries.

- Garfield512

I think Weber's tuffness is a bit overrated.
He hits very hard but I honestly Kreider won't give a poop
Fredo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: As-tu vu l’ostie de réalisateur de game de soccer de marde avec son ostie de caméra aérienne?
Joined: 03.16.2015

Oct 24 @ 12:34 PM ET
i think the depends on them being able to threaten down low on the PP. if they can't, then teams will key in on Weber's shot same way they did on Subban's last year. i think until Montreal proves dangerous up front, it will be tough to get Weber in prime position to really step into it.
- DoubleDown

If it's Galchenyuk not Paciorrety getting the puck on the halfboards sure.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Oct 24 @ 12:37 PM ET
I think Weber's tuffness is a bit overrated.
He hits very hard but I honestly Kreider won't give a poop

- Fredo


the point is, at the time, nobody, but nobody reacted. nothing. no retaliation what so ever, and they ended losing the series in part because of that IMO.
today, pretty sure someone would react. weber, beaulieu, shaw... anybody, doesn't matter. don't have to win the fight, but you have to react.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 24 @ 12:38 PM ET
the point is, at the time, nobody, but nobody reacted. nothing. no retaliation what so ever, and they ended losing the series in part because of that IMO.
today, pretty sure someone would react. weber, beaulieu, shaw... anybody, doesn't matter. don't have to win the fight, but you have to react.

- fidopro

Well said. Not even about fighting at this point.
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Oct 24 @ 12:38 PM ET
i think the depends on them being able to threaten down low on the PP. if they can't, then teams will key in on Weber's shot same way they did on Subban's last year. i think until Montreal proves dangerous up front, it will be tough to get Weber in prime position to really step into it.
- DoubleDown

Good point, that's why I would prefer having Radulov up front as I feel he would be more useful up there ... and have Weber-Markov on the back end.

It's still early in the season so there's nothing wrong with trying new things (keep the other teams guessing).

In the end, what do I know ... I'm just a silly orange cat.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Oct 24 @ 12:41 PM ET
Well said. Not even about fighting at this point.
- hscesq


yeah but (and i can't believe i'm typing this) i agree with fred. still wouldn't have stopped Kreider from doing what he did.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Oct 24 @ 12:43 PM ET
the point is, at the time, nobody, but nobody reacted. nothing. no retaliation what so ever, and they ended losing the series in part because of that IMO.
today, pretty sure someone would react. weber, beaulieu, shaw... anybody, doesn't matter. don't have to win the fight, but you have to react.

- fidopro


maybe somebody would react. and it would have been satisfying on some level to see Kreider lose a tooth or an eye or a hand, but at the end of the day we still would have been without Price in that series. i think when guys take cheap shots, they're just wieners and nothing will really deter them from it.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Oct 24 @ 12:44 PM ET
the point is, at the time, nobody, but nobody reacted. nothing. no retaliation what so ever, and they ended losing the series in part because of that IMO.
today, pretty sure someone would react. weber, beaulieu, shaw... anybody, doesn't matter. don't have to win the fight, but you have to react.

- fidopro


When Markov got plastered by Zack Smith this season, no one reacted.

And when when Sergachev got plastered, no one reacted either.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Oct 24 @ 12:46 PM ET
When Markov got plastered by Zack Smith this season, no one reacted.

And when when Sergachev got plastered, no one reacted either.

- Pecafan Fan


well Markov is not actually human so there's no need there
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Oct 24 @ 12:46 PM ET
maybe somebody would react. and it would have been satisfying on some level to see Kreider lose a tooth or an eye or a hand, but at the end of the day we still would have been without Price in that series. i think when guys take cheap shots, they're just wieners and nothing will really deter them from it.
- DoubleDown


it's not about beating the crap out of Kreider, it's about standing up for a teammate and not giving up.
tokarski played well enough in the following games for the Habs to win the series, but the team had quit, was ready to lose. no CHaracter, thank to Mr. Plek and Markov whose leadership was again displayed last season. no wonder MB went out and got some from the outside.
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Oct 24 @ 12:48 PM ET
yeah but (and i can't believe i'm typing this) i agree with fred. still wouldn't have stopped Kreider from doing what he did.
- DoubleDown

Probably not but players on other teams might think twice before charging our net if there's a heavy price to be paid if they do it.

Deterrence can be psychologically as powerful as wallpapering someone in the board.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Oct 24 @ 12:51 PM ET
When Markov got plastered by Zack Smith this season, no one reacted.

And when when Sergachev got plastered, no one reacted either.

- Pecafan Fan


true but different for a goalie, especially when he's your star player, imo
WaterBoy
Location: The opposite of what Pat says, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Oct 24 @ 12:51 PM ET
Not sure how Goefoffff will react to Radio Radio ...
Fredo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: As-tu vu l’ostie de réalisateur de game de soccer de marde avec son ostie de caméra aérienne?
Joined: 03.16.2015

Oct 24 @ 1:00 PM ET
Probably not but players on other teams might think twice before charging our net if there's a heavy price to be paid if they do it.

Deterrence can be psychologically as powerful as wallpapering someone in the board.

- Garfield512

They are pro hockey players. Pretty much everybody can make Gallagher pay the price but he's still going to do it
_nay_
Boston Bruins
Location: "aaaargh my leg!!!" -Max Pacioretty
Joined: 04.06.2011

Oct 24 @ 1:01 PM ET
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Oct 24 @ 1:02 PM ET
Ok.
Fredo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: As-tu vu l’ostie de réalisateur de game de soccer de marde avec son ostie de caméra aérienne?
Joined: 03.16.2015

Oct 24 @ 1:02 PM ET
true but different for a goalie, especially when he's your star player, imo
- fidopro

Oh yeah i'm sure they took time to logically gage their reaction.

_nay_
Boston Bruins
Location: "aaaargh my leg!!!" -Max Pacioretty
Joined: 04.06.2011

Oct 24 @ 1:04 PM ET
Ok.
- Pecafan Fan



Ouaip.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Oct 24 @ 1:06 PM ET
Ouaip.
- _nay_


I wonder if Weise thought we didn't know that.
WaterBoy
Location: The opposite of what Pat says, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Oct 24 @ 1:06 PM ET

- _nay_

Both of them are out of town...
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Oct 24 @ 1:07 PM ET
_nay_ Kowalski..
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Oct 24 @ 1:08 PM ET
They are pro hockey players. Pretty much everybody can make Gallagher pay the price but he's still going to do it
- Fredo

True, guys like Gallagher (pests) don't care but a lot of other (perimeter) players do care and hate getting brutally taken to task in front of the net.

Weber is like a big neon sign in front of our net: Pain Zone, enter at your own risk.
Fredo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: As-tu vu l’ostie de réalisateur de game de soccer de marde avec son ostie de caméra aérienne?
Joined: 03.16.2015

Oct 24 @ 1:09 PM ET
_nay_ Kowalski..
- pete26

Except for the giving money to charity part
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