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ThePresident
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NY
Joined: 12.08.2010

Oct 22 @ 10:11 PM ET
It's remarkable....Peter Holland is probably the worst forward on the team, and he's the first guy out on the shoot out. Do you want to lose? Is that the plan?
Kinger34
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We may have already seen Matthews at his potential - SMBDragon, ON
Joined: 07.04.2011

Oct 22 @ 10:11 PM ET
It's nice to see some goals but these collapses just aren't good. One..okay..two is bad. Three? There's a problem
- Santo_44



4 - Ottawa, Winnipeg, Minny, tonight.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Oct 22 @ 10:11 PM ET
he scored last year
- Fruitcakenipple



Like the guy who fishes in the same spot all day without moving, catching sweet frank all, cuz he caught something there last year.
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Oct 22 @ 10:12 PM ET
It's pathetic, bad coaching, bad defence. Garbage.
- LeafMan

I just don't see these coaching mistakes people are complaining about. Defence, yes.
The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 11.17.2007

Oct 22 @ 10:12 PM ET
Problem is their d sucks.... Puttin out polak and hunwick to kill the clock.
- burn


We should re sign them now, there could be a big demand for them in July.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Oct 22 @ 10:12 PM ET
It's pathetic, bad coaching, bad defence. Garbage.
- LeafMan

Questionable defence pairing choices at critical moments for sure, but overall I don't think his coaching is bad.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Oct 22 @ 10:12 PM ET
So?
- Hockey_Reverend

So.......thats pretty good
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Oct 22 @ 10:12 PM ET
Whats the deal with Babcock? Have to make better coaching decisions....Jesus Christ...Peter Holland.
- ThePresident



What kind of idiot puts their best shooter last year in the shootout.

Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Oct 22 @ 10:12 PM ET
I'm happy as poop watching this team right now. These are just birth pangs of a beast team.
- Zezel


This.

The kids are awesome, Andersen played great, and the game was entertaining. Great year ahead! (hopefully less Holland moving forward...)
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 22 @ 10:13 PM ET
I'm happy as poop watching this team right now. These are just birth pangs of a beast team.
- Zezel

I agree. The right players are playing well it's just painful to watch collapses like that
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Oct 22 @ 10:13 PM ET
It's remarkable....Peter Holland is probably the worst forward on the team, and he's the first guy out on the shoot out. Do you want to lose? Is that the plan?
- ThePresident

gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Oct 22 @ 10:13 PM ET
It's remarkable....Peter Holland is probably the worst forward on the team, and he's the first guy out on the shoot out. Do you want to lose? Is that the plan?
- ThePresident


I thought so too, except he's 5-12 on the shootout apparently. Babcock plays the odds.

Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Oct 22 @ 10:13 PM ET
I just don't see these coaching mistakes people are complaining about. Defence, yes.
- BetterCallSaul

Questionable pairing choices at critical times but that's about it for me. I have a lot of faith in babcock
UsernameUnknown
Seattle Kraken
Location: Gotta' Catch Em All!
Joined: 03.25.2013

Oct 22 @ 10:13 PM ET
They need to shore up the d, just not sure how quick lou wants to vs letting things go as they may.
- Yeti1181


Patience is key here. Their D sucks and management and Babweiner know it. It will be shored up. But it doesn't need to be any time soon.
If anything use band-aids to see if you can solidify the bottom pairings. Sit Hunwick. Polak. Dispose of Marincin, and bring up a guy like Valiev/Loov.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Oct 22 @ 10:13 PM ET


Like the guy who fishes in the same spot all day without moving, catching sweet frank all, cuz he caught something there last year.

- Woderwick


yep..
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Oct 22 @ 10:14 PM ET
So.......thats pretty good
- Fakepartofme


Holland is awful. Go with the future.

Doesn't Bozak have good shootout stats also?
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Oct 22 @ 10:14 PM ET
This.

The kids are awesome, Andersen played great, and the game was entertaining. Great year ahead! (hopefully less Holland moving forward...)

- Hockey_Reverend


He's been really good on the 4th line, where he belongs. We have a 4th line that can hang withe best of them in the league, for once.
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Oct 22 @ 10:14 PM ET
It's remarkable....Peter Holland is probably the worst forward on the team, and he's the first guy out on the shoot out. Do you want to lose? Is that the plan?
- ThePresident

You're acting as though we're watching a team that is supposed to be challenging for something. They just completed the tear down, and this is the rebuild. You need to see what works and what doesn't.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Oct 22 @ 10:15 PM ET
It's remarkable....Peter Holland is probably the worst forward on the team, and he's the first guy out on the shoot out. Do you want to lose? Is that the plan?
- ThePresident



No he's not. He was their best shooter in the shootout last year, maybe that's why Babcock used him?

Watch out people who know hockey are talking.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Oct 22 @ 10:15 PM ET
It's remarkable....Peter Holland is probably the worst forward on the team, and he's the first guy out on the shoot out. Do you want to lose? Is that the plan?
- ThePresident

Hes 5-12 in the shootout.

Maybe he could have started nylander...but thats why holland
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Oct 22 @ 10:15 PM ET
Questionable defence pairing choices at critical moments for sure, but overall I don't think his coaching is bad.
- Yeti1181



Coaching is bad. Goaltending is bad. Gardiner sucks. Rielly is worse. Marner is too cute. Nylander can't play defence. Matthews is...well perfect.


Trade them all. Blow it up. Fire the coach. Fire the GM. Rebuild properly.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 22 @ 10:15 PM ET
Patience is key here. Their D sucks and management and Babweiner knows it. It will be shored up. But it doesn't need to be any time soon.
If anything use band-aids to see if you can solidify the bottom pairings. Sit Hunwick. Polak. Dispose of Marincin, and bring up a guy like Valiev/Loov.

- UsernameUnknown


Stron defense will help these kids learn. The leafs have actually played pretty well this year. Just these awful defensive collapses. It's not good to develop in that kind of environment
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Oct 22 @ 10:15 PM ET
I thought so too, except he's 5-12 on the shootout apparently. Babcock plays the odds.
- gravyface


Yes, but in a game where Marner, Willie, and Matthews were the best forwards why not go with them? Experience is good...
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Oct 22 @ 10:15 PM ET
Questionable defence pairing choices at critical moments for sure, but overall I don't think his coaching is bad.
- Yeti1181

HOLLAND!!
ThePresident
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NY
Joined: 12.08.2010

Oct 22 @ 10:16 PM ET
I thought so too, except he's 5-12 on the shootout apparently. Babcock plays the odds.
- gravyface


Who cares what someone did last season....Matthews, Marner, and Nylander (some games) weren't around last season....we all know, they'd do much better.
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