I will say though, do hope Hextall is exploring Trouba. Lets get real and realise the back end is a pile of turd minus some unknown in the kids and a couple of guys that are maybe #4 d-men on elite teams.

Simmonds, Konecny, Provorov and Ghost aside I would explore if a deal could be made.

Calling the Flyers situation and roster scary, is hyperbole from sources that either have a propensity for extreme negativity, and actually enjoys and draw pleasure from situations where the Flyers are struggling. It's that, and also just a plain lack of knowledge of the game and the situations. The Flyers are a team that is on the rise, and is currently dealing with some injuries, some suspensions, and some inconsistent play early. This team is a playoff team in my opinion, that is adding young talent.
- MJL

We are a playoff team. We are on the rise. We haven't even seen a full roster four in yet.

Zero reason why we can't win tonight. Keep in mind we've only played west coast teams so far, so the loss of points don't hurt as much yet. We need to take from our own conference.

We are a playoff team. We are on the rise. We haven't even seen a full roster four in yet.

Zero reason why we can't win tonight.
- SuperSchennBros

Injuries happen. Maybe not to two of a team's "top 4" d-men at the same time but they do. A complete roster is kind of a rare thing imo.

They better be on the rise, wtf have they done since that cup appearance against Chicago. Not a big compliment to say they aren't a bottom feeder with the amount of money they have, which not all clubs can say.

That defense core has to be fixed, and mainly from within. Is what it is. The hope as it has been all along is that Giroux is still healthy enough to be a top gun by then. If there are any concerns, frankly that is my main one.

(frank) yeah I do. Perfectly okay with that. Not going to glue myself to the TV to watch a team in another year of a rebuild. If these D prospects dont pan out watch everyone lose their minds.

They will get it going this year. If not, whatever. Still too much poop on the club and a big infusion of talent needed on that back end.
- flyer_nutter

If I remember correctly, someone claimed MJL thought Randy Jones was a good dman.

Anything he says is worthless to me.

Have to head out for the day, but just a bit of a thought. Lets not all go crazy, and I am curious what the take of some might be on here.

I am not really advocating, but what are the thoughts of trading Giroux.

Jeff Zatkoff got hurt. LA's goalie depth is teaspoon deep.

They are still rebuilding. That back end in particular.

Until that is fixed I dont see the need for fury. They are what they are, at the very least I am somewhat excited to see youth play instead of LeCavalier, Umberger.
- flyer_nutter

It just sucks that we are rebuilding during Giroux prime years. Makes little sense to keep him if we really were rebuilding.

It is a half assed rebuild.

Have to head out for the day, but just a bit of a thought. Lets not all go crazy, and I am curious what the take of some might be on here.

I am not really advocating, but what are the thoughts of trading Giroux.
- flyer_nutter

If you can get full value-and I don't mean close to full, I mean so full there's beer running down the side of the mug full-then I'm fine with it.

The trouble is, I doubt they can get full value, at least right now.

Have to head out for the day, but just a bit of a thought. Lets not all go crazy, and I am curious what the take of some might be on here.

I am not really advocating, but what are the thoughts of trading Giroux.
- flyer_nutter

If we are rebuilding it would make perfect sense to do so.

If you can get full value-and I don't mean close to full, I mean so full there's beer running down the side of the mug full-then I'm fine with it.

The trouble is, I doubt they can get full value, at least right now.
- Jsaquella

I dont know what full value means to be honest.

I am somewhat wondering about this more and more. For what its worth, Draisaitl would be my target. (would have to get him for something else other than G)

If you can get full value-and I don't mean close to full, I mean so full there's beer running down the side of the mug full-then I'm fine with it.

The trouble is, I doubt they can get full value, at least right now.
- Jsaquella

If they really wanted to go that route, I'd look to move guys like Schenn and Simmons rather than Giroux.

I dont know what full value means to be honest.

I am somewhat wondering about this more and more. For what its worth, Draisaitl would be my target. (would have to get him for something else other than G)
- flyer_nutter

That's a big part of the issue, defining full value. I'll put it this way, if the Flyers get less than a return that makes me say, "Holy poop!!! That's amazing" I'd rather hang onto Giroux.

That's a big part of the issue, defining full value. I'll put it this way, if the Flyers get less than a return that makes me say, "Holy poop!!! That's amazing" I'd rather hang onto Giroux.
- Jsaquella

Makes sense. My thought process is I'd rather get something, and I do think they could get something good...

Instead of keeping him and basically getting nothing for the future. I think we all agree the future is where this organization needs to look. The club isn't going to get an elite #1 center for secondary parts.

Who knows.

I dont know what full value means to be honest.

I am somewhat wondering about this more and more. For what its worth, Draisaitl would be my target. (would have to get him for something else other than G)
- flyer_nutter

all things considered: value; where G would accept a trade; what his productivity will likely be from here on out; a market that wants to fast-forward their progress, etc, that's as realistic a target as any...LD will be a very good player going forward.

Makes sense. My thought process is I'd rather get something, and I do think they could get something good...

Instead of keeping him and basically getting nothing for the future. I think we all agree the future is where this organization needs to look. The club isn't going to get an elite #1 center for secondary parts.

Who knows.
- flyer_nutter

Is that a date?

Is that a date?
- MikesPillBottle

(frank)... Dare**

Makes sense. My thought process is I'd rather get something, and I do think they could get something good...

Instead of keeping him and basically getting nothing for the future. I think we all agree the future is where this organization needs to look. The club isn't going to get an elite #1 center for secondary parts.

Who knows.
- flyer_nutter

Giroux could well remain an elite or near elite offensive player for the next 4-6 years. Look at Joe Thornton or Adam Oates. Those guys remained or still are exceptional point producers in their late 30's

Giroux could well remain an elite or near elite offensive player for the next 4-6 years. Look at Joe Thornton or Adam Oates. Those guys remained or still are exceptional point producers in their late 30's
- Jsaquella

I'll disagree here. Dont see that. Too many hard minutes. Hell he is only 28, and I think the next contract is done when he is 32 or 33. I dont see him staying a top dog for years and years. Love G though.

Giroux will be 30 next season.

On a deep team where he would be 2c he would be a beast.

Jeff Zatkoff got hurt. LA's goalie depth is teaspoon deep.
- Jsaquella

I saw rumours of 3 months back for Quick. He didnt want the surgery that would have had him out all year. He is also signed for quite a few more years.

They have very little cap space. Flyers may actually be a good fit. I'd ask for a 1st and take nothing less.

I'll disagree here. Dont see that. Too many hard minutes. Hell he is only 28, and I think the next contract is done when he is 32 or 33. I dont see him staying a top dog for years and years. Love G though.
- flyer_nutter

This is why the Flyers went after guys like Weise and Gordon, to eliminate the hard minutes.

Jeff Zatkoff got hurt. LA's goalie depth is teaspoon deep.
- Jsaquella

Neuvirth and AMac for Doughty sounds perfectly reasonable to me
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I saw rumours of 3 months back for Quick. He didnt want the surgery that would have had him out all year. He is also signed for quite a few more years.

They have very little cap space. Flyers may actually be a good fit. I'd ask for a 1st and take nothing less.




- flyer_nutter

I'd demand Adrian Kempe, young, big LW that LA took in the 1st round a couple years ago.

Then you could flip a late pick or depth prospect for a guy like Condon or even Pavelec to be a veteran back up, so they aren't forced to call up Stolarz or Lyon to back up.

Giroux will be 30 next season.

On a deep team where he would be 2c he would be a beast.
- MikesPillBottle

The NTC would be an issue because I see Columbus as a good fit, they finish low again and the Flyers get a very high pick.

The aim in trading Giroux for me would be either getting back a guy who can be your elite #1 center of the future, or a top 3 pick that can give you that. Rules out a lot of teams.

Per CSN Provorov to be paired with Manning