At the least it is Friday... TGIF
- bixll

yeah no kidding

no big plans for me this weekend... just a band rehearsal sunday afternoon, yourself?

“I'm sick of being vilified all the time!” ... I'm a speed (frank)er!
- AdamFrench

your sex life, the look on her face speaks volumes:

i like the approach they are taking with him... let him get up to speed in practice first... and to be fair to holland... he has played well on the 4th line

tough to take him out when he is one of the few that has actually done a decent job on both sides of the puck
- Dozzer

I agree that Holland has played well on the 4th line. I just think they should slot him in to see what he can do. Lievo is coming back soon and we need to see if Griffith is worth keeping around. They will have to put one through waivers.

If it were me I would put Griffith in instead of Michalek. But I know that won't happen

I agree that Holland has played well on the 4th line. I just think they should slot him in to see what he can do. Lievo is coming back soon and we need to see if Griffith is worth keeping around. They will have to put one through waivers.

If it were me I would put Griffith in instead of Michalek. But I know that won't happen
- Santo_44

if michalek doesnt start producing he's gonna be put on waivers just you watch.... why showcase a guy for deadline bait if he isnt putting up numbers?

then again... he is on a 40P pace... if he can stay healthy and keep it up someone will snag him for secondary scoring going down the stretch if the leafs don't look for much of a return

I agree with you there. I would even maybe like to see Seth Griffith slot in. See what he can do. Take Holland out and sub in Griffth to center the fourth line
- Santo_44

Holland doesn't deserve to come out. He's played really well . Take out one of the slacking vets like Martin or Komarov or mihaleck.

if michalek doesnt start producing he's gonna be put on waivers just you watch.... why showcase a guy for deadline bait if he isnt putting up numbers?

then again... he is on a 40P pace... if he can stay healthy and keep it up someone will snag him for secondary scoring going down the stretch if the leafs don't look for much of a return
- Dozzer

I actually do like the guy. He's a good vet. He still has some skill but he is just too slow. He can't keep up with this team or the opposing team.

I'd like to see Kap up at some point. I thought he had a good pre season.

Holland doesn't deserve to come out. He's played really well . Take out one of the slacking vets like Martin or Komarov or mihaleck.
- burn

THIS GUY!

Holland doesn't deserve to come out. He's played really well . Take out one of the slacking vets like Martin or Komarov or mihaleck.
- burn

They won't take Martin out. Again, he's played the way everyone expected him to.

As long as it's none of the rookies, I would take anyone being slotted out for him

http://www2.dailyfaceoff....nes/19/chicago-blackhawks

What happened to the Hawks

Still a good team obviously but wow has that lineup ever depleted over the years.

I actually do like the guy. He's a good vet. He still has some skill but he is just too slow. He can't keep up with this team or the opposing team.

I'd like to see Kap up at some point. I thought he had a good pre season.
- Santo_44

its still very early in the season

give it sometime... the kids will slow down a bit and the vets will get up to speed... the kids are probably still running off adrenaline at this point

rash decisions rarely work out in hockey... see: maple leafs, last 15 years

i wold like to see one simple switch for next game

flip kadri and bozak

let Kadri play with JVR and Marner

then let michalek, bozak, and komarov be the checking line

just a thought
- Dozzer

I said the same after game 1 actually.

Kadri deserves some skilled linemates.

They won't take Martin out. Again, he's played the way everyone expected him to.

As long as it's none of the rookies, I would take anyone being slotted out for him
- Santo_44

I think Martin has been terrible. Huge waste of cap space. Has brought nothing and has in fact been a detriment several times. He's had negative impact.

I sure as hell hope people expected more. There was so much talk about being excited to watch him play, they spent so much on him and he literally has done nothing worthwhile.

Holland doesn't deserve to come out. He's played really well . Take out one of the slacking vets like Martin or Komarov or mihaleck.
- burn

Martin is not going anywhere, michalek is on a 40P pace. Komarov... wtf is with that guy... his game is all energy, and he hasnt been playing that way... i wonder if he is nursing some sort of injury....

not expecting a lot of offense from him... but he isnt playing his role very well right now

I think Martin has been terrible. Huge waste of cap space. Has brought nothing and has in fact been a detriment several times. He's had negative impact.

I sure as hell hope people expected more. There was so much talk about being excited to watch him play, they spent so much on him and he literally has done nothing worthwhile.
- burn

It's only been 4 games but it's exactly what I expected out of him.

How was last night game anyways? Had to miss and about to watch the game in 6.

I think Martin has been terrible. Huge waste of cap space. Has brought nothing and has in fact been a detriment several times. He's had negative impact.

I sure as hell hope people expected more. There was so much talk about being excited to watch him play, they spent so much on him and he literally has done nothing worthwhile.
- burn

He's laying out hits, and having the odd scrap. What did you expect from a 4th line fighter?

The Leafs aren't having cap issues, and none of us have to pay his 2 mil contract, so who cares about that.

There's far bigger things this team needs to fix than a 4th liner

I think Martin has been terrible. Huge waste of cap space. Has brought nothing and has in fact been a detriment several times. He's had negative impact.

I sure as hell hope people expected more. There was so much talk about being excited to watch him play, they spent so much on him and he literally has done nothing worthwhile.
- burn

martin is 12 overall in hits... i was shocked to see komarov was 4th!!

i must be watching the wrong games maybe?

He's laying out hits, and having the odd scrap. What did you expect from a 4th line fighter?

The Leafs aren't having cap issues, and none of us have to pay his 2 mil contract, so who cares about that.

There's far bigger things this team needs to fix than a 4th liner
- WingmanWillie

team defense

thats the major problem right now... and its really (frank)ing obvious too

Martin is not going anywhere, michalek is on a 40P pace. Komarov... wtf is with that guy... his game is all energy, and he hasnt been playing that way... i wonder if he is nursing some sort of injury....

not expecting a lot of offense from him... but he isnt playing his role very well right now
- Dozzer

Excellent. Pump 'n dump.

I'd guess he goes to the Blackhawks at the deadline (50% retained) for someone like Bryan Campbell, who is healthy scratched at around the same cap hit and a pick

http://www2.dailyfaceoff.com/teams/lines/19/chicago-blackhawks

What happened to the Hawks

Still a good team obviously but wow has that lineup ever depleted over the years.
- Santo_44

They really need Brian Campbell healthy. That bottom pair is Leaf levels.

He's laying out hits, and having the odd scrap. What did you expect from a 4th line fighter?

The Leafs aren't having cap issues, and none of us have to pay his 2 mil contract, so who cares about that.

There's far bigger things this team needs to fix than a 4th liner
- WingmanWillie

Lot of hits, none of substance. He fails to get the puck out on the rim around chip every (frank)ing time because he wimps out.

I haven't been impressed one iota. He's been a waste as of now.

Excellent. Pump 'n dump.

I'd guess he goes to the Blackhawks at the deadline (50% retained) for someone like Bryan Campbell, who is healthy scratched at around the same cap hit and a pick
- WingmanWillie

yeah... some team will take a flyer on him for a 3rd rounder or some poop if he stays on that pace

i wold like to see one simple switch for next game

flip kadri and bozak

let Kadri play with JVR and Marner

then let michalek, bozak, and komarov be the checking line

just a thought
- Dozzer

I endorse this switch.

I think Martin has been terrible. Huge waste of cap space. Has brought nothing and has in fact been a detriment several times. He's had negative impact.

I sure as hell hope people expected more. There was so much talk about being excited to watch him play, they spent so much on him and he literally has done nothing worthwhile.
- burn

He's a fourth line guy who's going to hit and have the odd scrap. He's came exactly as advertised.

He finishes hits. Maybe he channels my inner cherry but I miss guys who would finish every hit like he does. I'm not saying it helps the team but big hits have always been a big part of hockey and we don't see it often anymore. It's sad

team defense

thats the major problem right now... and its really (frank)ing obvious too
- Dozzer

100%

As much as I didn't care for the outcome last night, seeing Rielly with someone who wasn't Marincin was glorious. Never thought I would be happy to have Polak in the lineup

It's weird, most teams have a ton of LHD and solid RHD are hard to find. Seems like the Leafs have the opposite problem. Rielly is their only good LHD and plays the right side most of the time.

Hunwick and Marincin are trash, and I'm over Gardiner's schtick. The guy is just not hockey smart at all

Lot of hits, none of substance. He fails to get the puck out on the rim around chip every (frank)ing time because he wimps out.

I haven't been impressed one iota. He's been a waste as of now.
- burn

this isnt the time to start making big changes... its 4 games and these guys are still figuring each other out

if at game 10 we are seeing the same poop... thats when you start making the moves

martin is also a perfect candidate for expansion exposure... play him