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VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 20 @ 3:48 PM ET
Miller & Columbus 2nd round pick for LA's 2017 #1 and a prospect.
Vanoxy
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov!!!!
Joined: 06.26.2014

Oct 20 @ 3:53 PM ET
Great post Carol,

You would think that if JB asked Miller to waive for LA, he would go for it. What is he worth though?

- VanHockeyGuy


Miller has little value now.... but if JB holds out a week, and LA is 0-7, the jackpot grows...

I think if we retain half his salary, we could take on Budaj and a 2nd - 3rd. That doesn't cripple them when Quick returns and gives us a decent backup for the remainder of the year.

I just worry the hot start has Benning seeing this as a contending team, and he'll hold onto all expiring contracts, as his history has shown.
Mungo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: VANCOUVER, BC
Joined: 03.10.2014

Oct 20 @ 3:56 PM ET
MIller has little value now.... but if JB holds out a week, and LA is 0-7, the jackpot grows...
- Vanoxy



Cool and once we help LA get better how should we help our other divisional rival Arizona?
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 20 @ 4:01 PM ET
Cool and once we help LA get better how should we help our other divisional rival Arizona?
- Mungo


Edler would look good next to OEL I think.
Mungo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: VANCOUVER, BC
Joined: 03.10.2014

Oct 20 @ 4:03 PM ET
Edler would look good next to OEL I think.
- belcherbd



but whatever we do we have to hold on to Brown.... please don't flip him Jim!
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Oct 20 @ 4:04 PM ET
Miller & Columbus 2nd round pick for LA's 2017 #1 and a prospect.
- VanHockeyGuy


The kings won't give up another consecutive first round pick.
Vanoxy
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov!!!!
Joined: 06.26.2014

Oct 20 @ 4:06 PM ET
Cool and once we help LA get better how should we help our other divisional rival Arizona?
- Mungo


Helping a division rival with a short term rental, in exchange for futures, isn't the sin you're implying...

Gotta be realistic about where this team is in the current rebuild.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Oct 20 @ 4:09 PM ET
Miller has little value now.... but if JB holds out a week, and LA is 0-7, the jackpot grows...

I think if we retain half his salary, we could take on Budaj and a 2nd - 3rd. That doesn't cripple them when Quick returns and gives us a decent backup for the remainder of the year.

I just worry the hot start has Benning seeing this as a contending team, and he'll hold onto all expiring contracts, as his history has shown.

- Vanoxy



That is a terrible trade for Vancouver.

Miller is a starting goaltender still. If we are going to help out LA and potentially save their season, you demand more than a backup, a 2nd rounder AND retain 1/2 salary.

I would offer retain 1/2 salary of Miller for a 1st and prospect.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 20 @ 4:11 PM ET
Helping a division rival with a short term rental, in exchange for futures, isn't the sin you're implying...

Gotta be realistic about where this team is in the current rebuild.

- Vanoxy



I think Benning is realistic about where the team is. We have a lot of young players and 3xA prospects.

I don't see a need to stockpile draft picks . Keep the ones we have and now concentrate on winning
Bullfrog77
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 02.18.2015

Oct 20 @ 4:23 PM ET
I think Benning is realistic about where the team is. We have a lot of young players and 3xA prospects.

I don't see a need to stockpile draft picks . Keep the ones we have and now concentrate on winning

- VANTEL

We have a lot of prospects but very few that will ever make a difference in this league. Boeser is about the only real high end offensive forward. And hopefully juolevi will turn into something. Keep stocking the farm...this team is still sliding , with no guarantee of a future first line talent. Drop the bum and get what ya can
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 20 @ 4:24 PM ET
Miller has little value now.... but if JB holds out a week, and LA is 0-7, the jackpot grows...

I think if we retain half his salary, we could take on Budaj and a 2nd - 3rd. That doesn't cripple them when Quick returns and gives us a decent backup for the remainder of the year.

I just worry the hot start has Benning seeing this as a contending team, and he'll hold onto all expiring contracts, as his history has shown.

- Vanoxy


He'll let Miller & Burrows walk.
Bullfrog77
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 02.18.2015

Oct 20 @ 4:25 PM ET
He'll let Miller & Burrows walk.
- VanHockeyGuy

The hamhuis / Vrbata style of asset management?
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 20 @ 4:26 PM ET
The hamhuis / Vrbata style of asset management?
- Bullfrog77


Exactly.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Oct 20 @ 4:26 PM ET
Zero chance Miller get's traded. Canucks management and ownership want to be as competitive as they can to create a winning environment for all the young players in their lineup. I wouldn't be shocked if the Canucks extended Miller for 2 more years.

1) to give Demko lots of time in the AHL to develop.
2) you know there will be another expansion draft down the road after LV (Seattle? Quebec City?) if you can only protect 1 goalie i'd rather have Demko playing in the minors and not eligible and have to expose Miller

- Mungo



Irrelevant since Miller will no longer be under contract with Vancouver
Vanoxy
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov!!!!
Joined: 06.26.2014

Oct 20 @ 4:27 PM ET
That is a terrible trade for Vancouver.

Miller is a starting goaltender still. If we are going to help out LA and potentially save their season, you demand more than a backup, a 2nd rounder AND retain 1/2 salary.

I would offer retain 1/2 salary of Miller for a 1st and prospect.

- dbot


I'm sure that's what Benning will offer...
And, after negotiating, we'd be lucky to get the return I proposed.

Most years, you might be right, but the goalie market isn't strong right now.
At the end of the day, I doubt a deal happens between the 2 teams.

LA probably takes on a Pavalec type, for a 5th, and hopes for the best. I don't think they consider themselves real contenders this year anyways, so I don't think they give up much for a stop-gap.
Mungo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: VANCOUVER, BC
Joined: 03.10.2014

Oct 20 @ 4:28 PM ET
Irrelevant since Miller will no longer be under contract with Vancouver
- chompsey



Relevant since I'm talking about the next expansion draft after the Las Vegas one
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 20 @ 4:30 PM ET
We have a lot of prospects but very few that will ever make a difference in this league. Boeser is about the only real high end offensive forward. And hopefully juolevi will turn into something. Keep stocking the farm...this team is still sliding , with no guarantee of a future first line talent. Drop the bum and get what ya can
- Bullfrog77



Demko Juolevi and Demko are high end prospects. Just draft a forward next season . We are not sliding we are just fine
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 20 @ 4:30 PM ET
That is a terrible trade for Vancouver.

Miller is a starting goaltender still. If we are going to help out LA and potentially save their season, you demand more than a backup, a 2nd rounder AND retain 1/2 salary.

I would offer retain 1/2 salary of Miller for a 1st and prospect.

- dbot


That would be a great deal. There's also a possibility that 1st may end up being a lottery pick.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 20 @ 4:32 PM ET
Demko Juolevi and Boeser are high end prospects. Just draft a forward next season . We are not sliding we are just fine
- VANTEL


Fixed
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 20 @ 4:33 PM ET
Fixed
- VanHockeyGuy

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 20 @ 4:34 PM ET
Miller has little value now.... but if JB holds out a week, and LA is 0-7, the jackpot grows...

I think if we retain half his salary, we could take on Budaj and a 2nd - 3rd. That doesn't cripple them when Quick returns and gives us a decent backup for the remainder of the year.

I just worry the hot start has Benning seeing this as a contending team, and he'll hold onto all expiring contracts, as his history has shown.

- Vanoxy


Of course he will hold onto expiring contracts. they are trying to make the playoffs
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 20 @ 4:35 PM ET
That is a terrible trade for Vancouver.

Miller is a starting goaltender still. If we are going to help out LA and potentially save their season, you demand more than a backup, a 2nd rounder AND retain 1/2 salary.

I would offer retain 1/2 salary of Miller for a 1st and prospect.

- dbot

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 20 @ 4:36 PM ET
The hamhuis / Vrbata style of asset management?
- Bullfrog77


If you follow the Canucks you would know that ZERO teams made an offer for Vrbata.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 20 @ 4:38 PM ET
Demko Juolevi and Demko are high end prospects. Just draft a forward next season . We are not sliding we are just fine
- VANTEL

How are we sliding? I guarantee we have a better season than last
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 20 @ 4:39 PM ET
I think you could trade Miller and still be competitive. JB just needs to get creative.
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