Was there turbulence?
- PhillySportsGuy

No but there was alcohol, so yeah, guess there could have been turbulence.

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Couturier needs to get top PK minutes though. Like you said, all of the other top 2-way centers get regular PK minutes. If the Flyers had a capable replacement, I would understand using him less.
- PhillySportsGuy

So Coots finally is living up to a 2C standard offensively and you feel comfortable putting him right back into "be our #1 stud defensive forward" by game 4? This is why we cant have nice things.

Excuses


Enjoy Key West
- dragonoffrost

Thanks, will do!

I took the day off. It's like school and work conspired against me to make everything due yesterday.

I thought they could have retained Gagner with no risk. I thought he'd add some nice depth in case a guy got hurt or Konecny didn't make the roster. I'm hoping Cousins is back in at 3C and he's flanked by Read and Weise. That line should be fine defensively and chip in offensively a little bit.

Couturier needs to get top PK minutes though. Like you said, all of the other top 2-way centers get regular PK minutes. If the Flyers had a capable replacement, I would understand using him less.
- PhillySportsGuy

I believe LA uses Kopitar 2nd, but that's because they use Carter first. Carter is a little tiny bit better than PEB. Or Chicago uses Kruger above Toews. But generally, all top guys are seeing first or second unit action dependent on their teammates ability to pick up slack. And certainly not on the third unit. It doesn't hurt Bergeron or Barkov or any of those guys seeing top PK. It's just an excuse to get Hak's favorite twosome more minutes. They are inferior and it's that simple. They aren't comparable.

Define "plays."

I'm sure we could acquire him for a 7th if we allow Arizona to retain some of his salary.
- jmatchett383

You know exactly what I mean

... Dave hakstol. Huge upgrade above Berube.
- SuperSchennBros

Low bar.

No but there was alcohol, so yeah, guess there could have been turbulence.
- BiggE

You felt it too?

I write a long ass response and MJL is the only one who responds. I gotta get a life.

Edit: Thank you S2TP
- PhillySportsGuy

There are people like me on this board who read many of the comments but rarely respond. I enjoy the debates here and the long rants, including the one you posted.

You felt it too?


- PhillySportsGuy

😄😄

So Coots finally is living up to a 2C standard offensively and you feel comfortable putting him right back into "be our #1 stud defensive forward" by game 4? This is why we cant have nice things.
- juiced

Because they aren't mutually exclusive and frankly have nothing to do with each other. Coots isn't playing with Rinaldo and Umberger. He's getting top 6 teammates that he deserves. It's not magic why he has improved offensively. It isn't getting a minute less PK a game. He's a rare player who can shutdown and score in tough usage. He's still going to get the toughest ES usage anyway. If he can score with that, why would PK affect his scoring?

So Coots finally is living up to a 2C standard offensively and you feel comfortable putting him right back into "be our #1 stud defensive forward" by game 4? This is why we cant have nice things.
- juiced

Sorry. Forgot it was impossible for a forward to play on the PK and also play with top 6 wingers at even strength. I'll notify Kopitar and Bergeron of the changes.

There are people like me on this board who read many of the comments but rarely respond. I enjoy the debates here and the long rants, including the one you posted.
- ChoclitLeClair

Thank you.

I appreciate you.

I believe LA uses Kopitar 2nd, but that's because they use Carter first. Carter is a little tiny bit better than PEB. Or Chicago uses Kruger above Toews. But generally, all top guys are seeing first or second unit action dependent on their teammates ability to pick up slack. And certainly not on the third unit. It doesn't hurt Bergeron or Barkov or any of those guys seeing top PK. It's just an excuse to get Hak's favorite twosome more minutes. They are inferior and it's that simple. They aren't comparable.
- Mononoke

Last year, Toews ranked 6th among forwards on the team, in PK ice time. To be fair, the minutes of the bottom 4 were relatively close.

Thank you.

I appreciate you.
- PhillySportsGuy

He's great

There are people like me on this board who read many of the comments but rarely respond. I enjoy the debates here and the long rants, including the one you posted.
- ChoclitLeClair

As another poster with a food/beverage/flyer related user name, thank you for your comment.

Sorry. Forgot it was impossible for a forward to play on the PK and also play with top 6 wingers at even strength. I'll notify Kopitar and Bergeron of the changes.
- PhillySportsGuy

Slightly off topic, but how do you plan on notifying them? It is not a big deal, but their birthday party invitations came back in the mail. I knew I should've done an e-vite. Mom was right.

Last year, Toews ranked 6th among forwards on the team, in PK ice time. To be fair, the minutes of the bottom 4 were relatively close.
- MJL

He was 3 actually. But you're right it was spread pretty even, which is ideal. He still saw a lot of action. Lappy is not spreading it around. They have their pet unit they're sending out every time.

Slightly off topic, but how do you plan on notifying them? It is not a big deal, but their birthday party invitations came back in the mail. I knew I should've done an e-vite. Mom was right.
- YuenglingJagr

In bed.

He's great
- Streit2ThePoint

Great guy

He was 3 actually. But you're right it was spread pretty even, which is ideal. He still saw a lot of action. Lappy is not spreading it around. They have their pet unit they're sending out every time.
- Mononoke

Kruger, Dejsardins and Hossa all averaged more SH TOI than Toews. If they had been healthy all season he would have been down around a minute per game.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/...0&sort=shTimeOnIcePerGame

Slightly off topic, but how do you plan on notifying them? It is not a big deal, but their birthday party invitations came back in the mail. I knew I should've done an e-vite. Mom was right.
- YuenglingJagr

I plan on telling Don Sweeney that analytics suggest Bergeron should both play on the PK and have quality linemates.

Kruger, Dejsardins and Hossa all averaged more SH TOI than Toews.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/...0&sort=shTimeOnIcePerGame
- Feanor

I didn't say average.

And Chicago finished as the 20th best Pk and now they're a disaster so far this year. Clearly it's a good formula.

I didn't say average.

And Chicago finished as the 20th best Pk and now they're a disaster so far this year. Clearly it's a good formula.
- Mononoke

Can you define what constitutes "a disaster?"

Not agreeing or disagreeing, just trying to see what criteria a team meets to be labeled "a disaster."

He was 3 actually. But you're right it was spread pretty even, which is ideal. He still saw a lot of action. Lappy is not spreading it around. They have their pet unit they're sending out every time.
- Mononoke

Actually he was 6th, but you can take out Kero and Fleischmann, and he's 4th.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/...,&sort=shTimeOnIcePerGame

No skilled forward should ever play a single second killing penalties.

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