Why are we talking hockey when we just learned that JMat got high with his parents at the age of 11?

Screw hockey, this needs to be discussed.

I write a long ass response and MJL is the only one who responds. I gotta get a life.

Edit: Thank you S2TP
- PhillySportsGuy

You mean that book someone posted way back?

Feanor, do you have the stats on whether or not Sean Couturier has been the lone forward to start and kill off a 3 on 5 against the Flyers since Bellemare has been here? I'm 100% positive that Couturier isn't. I would also like to know how often over the course of Coots career he has started a 3 on 5 over other defensive centers on the team.

If anyone knows this, this would be interesting.
- SuperSchennBros

If we look at SH faceoffs taken last year, Bellemare did take significantly more draws then Couturier did. Bellemare was terrible at it, with a SH FO% of 37% compared to Couturier's 53.9%. Bellermare took 153 shorthanded draws to Couturier's 89.

Why are we talking hockey when we just learned that JMat got high with his parents at the age of 11?

Screw hockey, this needs to be discussed.
- MikesPillBottle

So he was born in 83 and got high when he was 11, but we still dont have the full picture on how he came to buy an 05/06 civic and where his irrational hatred of Seinfeld developed

so a defenseman goes leroy jenkins and pinches but fails to make an effective hit and a defenseman makes a lazy play that causes a turnover and a breakaway

both total team breakdowns...got it
- YuenglingJagr

You keep making nonsensical arguments here. My opinion of each of the goals in the Chicago game is on record. Your description of my opinion on the goals, is inaccurate.

You keep making nonsensical arguments here. My opinion of each of the goals in the Chicago game is on record. Your description of my opinion on the goals, is inaccurate.
- MJL

ALeeeroy AJEnnnnnKINS!

I agree with you in that Couturier should be used more on the PK. Hak seems to like using VDV and PEB at the beginning of the PK (At least he did last year. We need more of a sample size before judging this year) and I don't understand why. They're not particularly good, so matching them up against opposing top units is a bad idea.

Ultimately, the Flyers should have crafted a bottom six with more offensive potential. Instead, they have mostly plugs and need the top 6 to generate almost all of the 5v5 offense. I think Hak is trying to save Couturier and Giroux for more 5v5 time.

This strategy could work if the bottom six could just break even at ES and excel on the PK. Unfortunately, neither of those things is true.

The third line finally came together last year when they put Gagner and Cousins together on it. Now, they've removed Cousins and replaced him with an inferior player in PEB, and removed Gagner and replaced him with a net front guy in Weise. Weise can be better, but he needs guys around him to make things happen. He's not going to get the puck through the neutral zone like Gagner did for them last year. Maybe Read can step up and fill that void. Raffl certainly can when he comes back from injury.

I like Hak's system and I think he's shown great restraint by not handcuffing young players, but I certainly don't think he's done a great job of optimizing the lineup on a game to game basis.

end rant;
- PhillySportsGuy

gave it a sympathy read

some quick thoughts are that Coots plays a lot of minutes, especially at ES, so they have to be limited somewhere

the problem is again depth in general...would love to replace PEB and VDV

And here I thought it was a father son operation
- YuenglingJagr

That's Jerry and Ben Stiller, coffee purveyors extraordinaire

I write a long ass response and MJL is the only one who responds. I gotta get a life.

- PhillySportsGuy

Nothing personal. When I see a post that long I automatically skip it, no matter the author.

You keep making nonsensical arguments here. My opinion of each of the goals in the Chicago game is on record. Your description of my opinion on the goals, is inaccurate.
- MJL

I really dont understand it though. Why didnt he make a suggestion about how the goal against didnt even get through without it. I just cant figure out why it would be included if it didnt even matter.

So he was born in 83 and got high when he was 11, but we still dont have the full picture on how he came to buy an 05/06 civic and where his irrational hatred of Seinfeld developed
- YuenglingJagr

lol never gets old

I write a long ass response and MJL is the only one who responds. I gotta get a life.

Edit: Thank you S2TP
- PhillySportsGuy

I got you bae

I agree with you in that Couturier should be used more on the PK. Hak seems to like using VDV and PEB at the beginning of the PK (At least he did last year. We need more of a sample size before judging this year) and I don't understand why. They're not particularly good, so matching them up against opposing top units is a bad idea.

Ultimately, the Flyers should have crafted a bottom six with more offensive potential. Instead, they have mostly plugs and need the top 6 to generate almost all of the 5v5 offense. I think Hak is trying to save Couturier and Giroux for more 5v5 time.

This strategy could work if the bottom six could just break even at ES and excel on the PK. Unfortunately, neither of those things is true.

The third line finally came together last year when they put Gagner and Cousins together on it. Now, they've removed Cousins and replaced him with an inferior player in PEB, and removed Gagner and replaced him with a net front guy in Weise. Weise can be better, but he needs guys around him to make things happen. He's not going to get the puck through the neutral zone like Gagner did for them last year. Maybe Read can step up and fill that void. Raffl certainly can when he comes back from injury.

I like Hak's system and I think he's shown great restraint by not handcuffing young players, but I certainly don't think he's done a great job of optimizing the lineup on a game to game basis.

end rant;
- PhillySportsGuy

I just think there are decisions you can question but for the most part, I like Dave hakstol. Huge upgrade above Berube. Definitely a better attitude over Berube.

gave it a sympathy read

some quick thoughts are that Coots plays a lot of minutes, especially at ES, so they have to be limited somewhere

the problem is again depth in general...would love to replace PEB and VDV
- YuenglingJagr

#bringbackversteeg

So he was born in 83 and got high when he was 11, but we still dont have the full picture on how he came to buy an 05/06 civic and where his irrational hatred of Seinfeld developed
- YuenglingJagr

You also don't have the picture of the amazing full-on mullet I rocked between the ages of 10 and 16.

I dont know of anywhere that tracks 3v5 time as anything other than short handed. From my memory it has always mostly Coots and PEB
- YuenglingJagr

Agreed but I'm pretty sure Bellemare since being here has always started first.

I really dont understand it though. Why didnt he make a suggestion about how the goal against didnt even get through without it. I just cant figure out why it would be included if it didnt even matter.
- jak521

I have no idea what you're even referring to here.

Gagner not being on the team, is Hextall's decision, not Hakstol's. I for one am glad that Gagner was not brought back. Not a good player in my opinion, and certainly not a player I want on the 3rd line. I also favor Bellemare over Cousins as a player, but I agree that Bellemare is not really a 3rd line player. The Flyers have a whole at the 3rd line center spot, and I'm not sure Cousins in the answer there.
- MJL

well I think it was supposed to be Laughton but that hasn't worked out so well.

You also don't have the picture of the amazing full-on mullet I rocked between the ages of 10 and 16.
- jmatchett383

Yep Jersey so that's a given

Yep Jersey so that's a given
- dragonoffrost

I agree with you in that Couturier should be used more on the PK. Hak seems to like using VDV and PEB at the beginning of the PK (At least he did last year. We need more of a sample size before judging this year) and I don't understand why. They're not particularly good, so matching them up against opposing top units is a bad idea.

Ultimately, the Flyers should have crafted a bottom six with more offensive potential. Instead, they have mostly plugs and need the top 6 to generate almost all of the 5v5 offense. I think Hak is trying to save Couturier and Giroux for more 5v5 time.

This strategy could work if the bottom six could just break even at ES and excel on the PK. Unfortunately, neither of those things is true.

The third line finally came together last year when they put Gagner and Cousins together on it. Now, they've removed Cousins and replaced him with an inferior player in PEB, and removed Gagner and replaced him with a net front guy in Weise. Weise can be better, but he needs guys around him to make things happen. He's not going to get the puck through the neutral zone like Gagner did for them last year. Maybe Read can step up and fill that void. Raffl certainly can when he comes back from injury.

I like Hak's system and I think he's shown great restraint by not handcuffing young players, but I certainly don't think he's done a great job of optimizing the lineup on a game to game basis.

end rant;
- PhillySportsGuy

Before I get overly critical of the Bottom 6, I do want to see what things look like when Raffl and Laughton are healthy and Schenn back from suspension.

I can't believe that VdV and even PEB are playing regularly when the lineup is healthy.

Yep Jersey so that's a given
- dragonoffrost

I'm pretty confident #Delco could mullet it up with the best of the Durty Jerz.

Before I get overly critical of the Bottom 6, I do want to see what things look like when Raffl and Laughton are healthy and Schenn back from suspension.

I can't believe that VdV and even PEB are playing regularly when the lineup is healthy.
- johndewar

Also, after a few games at home. Last change will give us a better idea how Hakstol plans to use these guys and if they are to benefit from it

I'm pretty confident #Delco could mullet it up with the best of the Durty Jerz.
- johndewar

Oh I rocked a mullet too back in the day. What were we thinking?

I'm pretty confident #Delco could mullet it up with the best of the Durty Jerz.
- johndewar

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