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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 20 @ 9:15 AM ET
You brought up the point. Brind'Amour and Richards were too penalty killers that often saw there share of starting the PK in the defensive zone. If the other team for example were on the two man advantage, last season Bellemare regardless of what has the opposing face off man normally starts in the defensive zone in that situation. Why over Couturier?
- SuperSchennBros


I think you may have replied to the wrong post originally.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Oct 20 @ 9:17 AM ET
If they didnt sign Gordon theyd have 592 players which is a nice even number....just another reason!
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Oct 20 @ 9:18 AM ET



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Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 20 @ 9:18 AM ET
doomed
- SnipeDevil6


Don't be so pessimistic. The Devils will be fine this year, although no one will be at the home games to witness it.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 20 @ 9:19 AM ET
Along with being in Chicago which gave them last change and the ability to see Provorov out there having a bad game so every time he hit the ice you put Kane's line out.

Recipe for an ugly game.

- dragonoffrost


Very good point. I liked seeing G (and I'm sure the other vets and Hak) support him.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Oct 20 @ 9:21 AM ET
The defense was a mess for one game, as a whole, and that involved a 19 year old having a bad game that is bound to happen on occasion. Part of the growing pains in developing a player that young at the NHL level.
- MJL


Defense was directly responsible for 2 goals against Arizona.
all-pgh
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 05.14.2014

Oct 20 @ 9:21 AM ET
If Prov were to get sent down can he go to the Phantoms or does he have to go back to Brandon?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 20 @ 9:21 AM ET
Totally agree. This is what you sign up for when you have a 19 YO defenseman on the team.

It reminds me of a young pitcher who gets lit up in his 3rd start. You want to see how they come out and respond next time.

Ideally, an athlete playing at the highest level is equipped to handle rough outings.

- johndewar


Yeah, it's a tough situation for vets and kids alike, with all the injuries. Losing Raffl is another blow.

Provorov gonna be OK.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Oct 20 @ 9:21 AM ET
Simple as Coaches decision. He has a player he prefers out there in that situation so he uses that player.

Coots and G getting less PK time is probably a plan so that they are fresher for the PP and ES.

- dragonoffrost

This was covered in my original post.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 20 @ 9:22 AM ET
If Prov were to get sent down can he go to the Phantoms or does he have to go back to Brandon?
- all-pgh


It's either the NHL or juniors. No AHL.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 20 @ 9:22 AM ET
Totally agree. This is what you sign up for when you have a 19 YO defenseman on the team.

It reminds me of a young pitcher who gets lit up in his 3rd start. You want to see how they come out and respond next time.

Ideally, an athlete playing at the highest level is equipped to handle rough outings.

- johndewar


Yeah, I'm sure that he is but he also may not have experienced this much adversity in the game for a long time and certainly not on this stage. Just have to make sure he's supported. He seems like a very balanced kid who will prob come out and score his first career goal tonight.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 20 @ 9:23 AM ET
It's either the NHL or juniors. No AHL.
- jmatchett383


That's really the pickle we're in here. Too good for junior so he needs to be challenged here and learn.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 20 @ 9:23 AM ET
Very good point. I liked seeing G (and I'm sure the other vets and Hak) support him.
- Hextall271


I'm sure Vandevelde gave him a pep talk.

"Look kid, I don't even know how I'm still here. I mean, I was a cast-off on a terrible Edmonton team, and I've been able to hold down an NHL job despite not really being all that good. I wouldn't worry about being benched or demoted any time soon if I were you."
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 20 @ 9:24 AM ET
If Prov were to get sent down can he go to the Phantoms or does he have to go back to Brandon?
- all-pgh


Back to the Wheaties. Provy is 19 YO and can't go to the AHL.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 20 @ 9:26 AM ET
I'm sure Vandevelde gave him a pep talk.

"Look kid, I don't even know how I'm still here. I mean, I was a cast-off on a terrible Edmonton team, and I've been able to hold down an NHL job despite not really being all that good. I wouldn't worry about being benched or demoted any time soon if I were you."

- jmatchett383


"Just to be safe, Ivan, try to wear this hat around coach as much as possible."

SnipeDevil6
Joined: 08.16.2016

Oct 20 @ 9:26 AM ET
Big, if true
- johndewar

joking around
SnipeDevil6
Joined: 08.16.2016

Oct 20 @ 9:27 AM ET
Don't be so pessimistic. The Devils will be fine this year, although no one will be at the home games to witness it.
- Hextall271


I see what you did there.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Oct 20 @ 9:27 AM ET
"Just to be safe, Ivan, try to wear this hat around coach as much as possible."


- johndewar

YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Oct 20 @ 9:28 AM ET
That's really the pickle we're in here. Too good for junior so he needs to be challenged here and learn.
- Hextall271


Yeah, wouldn't want to Daniel Sprong him
SnipeDevil6
Joined: 08.16.2016

Oct 20 @ 9:28 AM ET
I see what you did there.
- SnipeDevil6


One game one sell out. That's gotta be some kind of a record.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Oct 20 @ 9:28 AM ET
I think you may have replied to the wrong post originally.
- jmatchett383

No, the counter from MJL was of being aware of what side of the ice in the defensive zone that the face off would be taking place. I understanding that you want a right handed stick at the right face off dot and a left handed stick at the left face off dot to win on the backhand away from the goalie if possible. The argument by some including myself is why Couturier rarely started, while past gifted defensive centers with the same stick hand did pretty much the same that Coots is bring kept from. The first thing I pointed out was probably because he plays within the top two lines.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Oct 20 @ 9:31 AM ET
This was covered in my original post.
- SuperSchennBros


And it's really as simple as this is why Coots doesn't start those PK's. Just because you are hunting for a different answer doesn't mean there is one.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Oct 20 @ 9:42 AM ET
Have they tried Read on Giroux's line? Maybe have him there and Schenn on the third line.
all-pgh
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 05.14.2014

Oct 20 @ 9:42 AM ET
Yeah, wouldn't want to Daniel Sprong him
- YuenglingJagr

Yeah they really dropped the ball on the Sprong situation. Defenseman is a little tougher for a 19 yr old to grow in to. You don't want to mess him up between the ears if he's not ready either. The whole AHL, WHL CHL relationship is a little messed up.
dick_wilderness
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Forests , NJ
Joined: 03.15.2014

Oct 20 @ 9:44 AM ET
Who knew the rookie wall was only 3 games in?
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