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Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Oct 19 @ 6:52 PM ET
Well it's a nice place to be 3-0 but because of the doom and gloom projections plus WD head scratchers lol.... people still holding their breath wondering if this team is for real or waiting for the other shoe to drop...?

Well we got plenty of time for that don't we lol.... are there any praises or likes so far? I thinks someone said the historic wins not leading shows the Canucks have more conviction and ability to come back .. that's a new thing to like ... right ... what else..?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 19 @ 6:52 PM ET
Here's a picture for you Don...



The Chinese know how to get your attention.

- bloatedmosquito



That doesn't look appetizing
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Oct 19 @ 6:53 PM ET
That doesn't look appetizing
- CanuckDon


Gas pedal flavour?
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Oct 19 @ 6:57 PM ET
He is trash until he proves otherwise. When a player sucks, you don't re-assess them the next season. You assume they still suck until they prove you otherwise. Same with coaches. WD is a useless coach who should not be here. Until he proves he deserves to be at the NHL level, this will not change. He is lucky in the fact that he has a chance to prove otherwise.
- Retinalz


Thats exactly what you do. Every offseason guys go home and work on things, you can be skeptical as to how much you can improve but you give them the chance in camp to earn a spot in the Top 6 (or wherever) and if they earn it, they have improved.

Coaching is a little different, since it lacks a physical compnent. He can learn/improve much more quickly than a player, listening to new coach Jarvis or watching video can all be done on the fly and make him better. You can bash WD all you want, as he still makes questionable decisions but I am sure he has a logical reason behind them. Some pay off, others dont
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Oct 19 @ 6:57 PM ET
Gas pedal flavour?
- golfingsince


I really have a hard time understanding the connections Asians make, especially in marketing. I get lost in translation. Crazy stuff out there.

I think we all have seen japanese TV shows. I don't get it.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 19 @ 6:58 PM ET
Considering we have had to battle back in each game, and the fact that he continuously plays DD in situations where we need a goal to tie the game in dying minutes. Yes the way they got the 3-0 is proving my statement.
- Retinalz

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 19 @ 6:58 PM ET
Two points were more important
- VANTEL

Yeah I'm with you the two points are always important….but so is sending the message to the teams coming into our building that liberties can't be taken. Would really suck to have Horvat out for 8-12 weeks with busted ribs because players keep taking runs at him with no restitution. I'm sure Guddy put it in the memory banks.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Oct 19 @ 7:00 PM ET
I really have a hard time understanding the connections Asians make, especially in marketing. I get lost in translation. Crazy stuff out there.

I think we all have seen japanese TV shows. I don't get it.

- bloatedmosquito


The Japanese are funny people. I don't understand half of it, but do find them amusing.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 19 @ 7:01 PM ET
Well then, I truly believe you are wrong.

I read the posts, see how people make subjective judgments from watching a televised game, that only shows a small aspect of what's really happening on the ice.

Personally I believe that people are like lemmings, 1040 starts a rant about Willie and people swallow like a bunch of hookers in a blow job competition. Then come the armchair GM's and coaches to the different blogs to expound their vast amount of knowledge and experience on how this guy (WD) or that guy (JB) are useless. Did I mention all from the comfort of their chair.

Bloated just said Canuck fans aren't fickle, I disagree, after reading all the posts about WD being inept, screwing with players potential success, line match-ups, not knowing how to adjust, shouldn't be adjusting because fans don't agree with the adjustments, sitting players in the press box (again screwing with their confidence), giving Burrows an "A" as a leader, (only thing he ever lead was a controversy into reffing bias), playing the Sedins too many minutes, have I missed anything. Talk about a fickle group...

If Willie was useless, he wouldn't have the success he has attained, and he wouldn't be where he is today.

Has he made mistakes, absolutely, has he learned from his mistakes, certainly looks like it, but it could also be that he has an actual healthy team instead of 10-14 rookies to draw from.

- Makita



Agree with everything except the Burrows part. I don't doubt he is a good leader but giving him an A ensures he is in the lineup all season. He doesn't look like an NHL player so why are we dressing him for 82 games? If you have a letter you should be a player that will earn a spot based on merit and not because the coach/ Linden/ Benning (or whoever) has a man crush on the guy.

Edit. I am ok with Burrows being the 12th/ 13th forward I just don't like his guaranteed roster spot.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 19 @ 7:02 PM ET
Well it's a nice place to be 3-0 but because of the doom and gloom projections plus WD head scratchers lol.... people still holding their breath wondering if this team is for real or waiting for the other shoe to drop...?

Well we got plenty of time for that don't we lol.... are there any praises or likes so far? I thinks someone said the historic wins not leading shows the Canucks have more conviction and ability to come back .. that's a new thing to like ... right ... what else..?

- Nuck4U


I'll bite, I like the fact that Willie isn't opposed to trying different players on different lines. I like the fact that the team has fought back in all three games, builds confidence. I like that Sbisa, and Dorsett are playing better than most thought. I like the Sedin's are still producing at 36. I like Larsens shot, just wish he'd hit the net.

I like to stir the pot and not be a swallower.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 19 @ 7:03 PM ET
I really have a hard time understanding the connections Asians make, especially in marketing. I get lost in translation. Crazy stuff out there.

I think we all have seen japanese TV shows. I don't get it.

- bloatedmosquito

What's with.................the tentacles ?
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Oct 19 @ 7:04 PM ET
Well then, I truly believe you are wrong.

I read the posts, see how people make subjective judgments from watching a televised game, that only shows a small aspect of what's really happening on the ice.

Personally I believe that people are like lemmings, 1040 starts a rant about Willie and people swallow like a bunch of hookers in a blow job competition. Then come the armchair GM's and coaches to the different blogs to expound their vast amount of knowledge and experience on how this guy (WD) or that guy (JB) are useless. Did I mention all from the comfort of their chair.

Bloated just said Canuck fans aren't fickle, I disagree, after reading all the posts about WD being inept, screwing with players potential success, line match-ups, not knowing how to adjust, shouldn't be adjusting because fans don't agree with the adjustments, sitting players in the press box (again screwing with their confidence), giving Burrows an "A" as a leader, (only thing he ever lead was a controversy into reffing bias), playing the Sedins too many minutes, have I missed anything. Talk about a fickle group...

If Willie was useless, he wouldn't have the success he has attained, and he wouldn't be where he is today.

Has he made mistakes, absolutely, has he learned from his mistakes, certainly looks like it, but it could also be that he has an actual healthy team instead of 10-14 rookies to draw from.

- Makita

I don't ever listen to 1040 unless I am driving home and the game is on. I agree with you for a lot of it. But his line deployment is still questionable, and if he continues to roll 4 lines when we need a goal to tie, then he is not improving. Last night after STL iced the puck with around 4 mins left and we were still down a goal, the line of Burrows-Gaunce-Dorsett had no business on the ice. We should be having one of our scoring lines out there, which ever is fresher, to try and get us tied. It is reasons like this that have me believing he has not improved in the right ways.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Oct 19 @ 7:04 PM ET
The Japanese are funny people. I don't understand half of it, but do find them amusing.
- golfingsince


Did you know that Japan has been competing in international hockey since 1930? I found that amazing.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Oct 19 @ 7:08 PM ET
Considering we have had to battle back in each game, and the fact that he continuously plays DD in situations where we need a goal to tie the game in dying minutes. Yes the way they got the 3-0 is proving my statement.
- Retinalz


I'm confused, DD has only 17 minutes of icetime when the Canucks have been trailing, 3rd lowest on the team, only ahead of Virtanen and Skille who havent played all the games, and behind Burrows and Gaunce (that trio is about 10 minutes less icetime than the next group)?

As for the battling back issue: Last game the Canucks got burned after an excellent scoring chance, a miss hit shot from Hutton led to an odd man break and a good (but stoppable) shot from Tarasenko. And the first game of the season it was because of an own goal. I'm not sure what else WD could have done there?
docmorgan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: stall, Crosby, perry Giroux, T, BC
Joined: 01.06.2011

Oct 19 @ 7:11 PM ET
Quick out 3 months...Miller time?
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 19 @ 7:12 PM ET
Agree with everything except the Burrows part. I don't doubt he is a good leader but giving him an A ensures he is in the lineup all season. He doesn't look like an NHL player so why are we dressing him for 82 games? If you have a letter you should be a player that will earn a spot based on merit and not because the coach/ Linden/ Benning (or whoever) has a man crush on the guy.
- CanuckDon


The post wasn't my endorsement for actions taken by the team, it was posters that feel and post about specific topics as if their an expert.

We can all discuss the merits of this, that or the other, but to emphatically state someone is useless because of those specifics, or judging on last season without taking into account of contributing factors, gets my hackles up.

I'm really undecided about Burrows getting the "A", and there must have been something compelling for that to have happened.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Oct 19 @ 7:15 PM ET
Did you know that Japan has been competing in international hockey since 1930? I found that amazing.
- bloatedmosquito


I had no idea. Probably as good as Great Britain though.
PetrolSexual
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Down by the Sea, BC
Joined: 06.27.2014

Oct 19 @ 7:19 PM ET
Did you know that Japan has been competing in international hockey since 1930? I found that amazing.
- bloatedmosquito


"competing"
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Oct 19 @ 7:21 PM ET
Quick out 3 months...Miller time?
- docmorgan


CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 19 @ 7:28 PM ET
The post wasn't my endorsement for actions taken by the team, it was posters that feel and post about specific topics as if their an expert.

We can all discuss the merits of this, that or the other, but to emphatically state someone is useless because of those specifics, or judging on last season without taking into account of contributing factors, gets my hackles up.

I'm really undecided about Burrows getting the "A", and there must have been something compelling for that to have happened.

- Makita


Oh I agree...most people I meet in the street, my office, my hockey team all think they are experts and they don't know jack. The opposite of an experienced fan like myself
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 19 @ 7:32 PM ET
I don't ever listen to 1040 unless I am driving home and the game is on. I agree with you for a lot of it. But his line deployment is still questionable, and if he continues to roll 4 lines when we need a goal to tie, then he is not improving. Last night after STL iced the puck with around 4 mins left and we were still down a goal, the line of Burrows-Gaunce-Dorsett had no business on the ice. We should be having one of our scoring lines out there, which ever is fresher, to try and get us tied. It is reasons like this that have me believing he has not improved in the right ways.
- Retinalz


And yet through those coaching decisions they won the game, if you wish to call it luck doesn't matter, they won.

If the tables were reversed and they were up by that goal and they lost, there would be complaints. If they were up by a goal and won there would be praises for throwing out the checking line. There's no winning regardless of coaching decisions.

Again as several have stated, because of several factors involved in last year, give the guy an assessment period. Then when he sh!ts the bed you can be like " I told you so"
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 19 @ 7:36 PM ET
Oh I agree...most people I meet in the street, my office, my hockey team all think they are experts and they don't know jack. The opposite of an experienced fan like myself
- CanuckDon

It's human nature, I've dedicated about 20+ years to coaching (soccer), and there's never love for the coach unless they're winning.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Oct 19 @ 7:37 PM ET
add this one to the list of things we can whinge about

via the provies:

Hamhuis logged 25:07 for the Stars tonight, a team high. Has two assists in three games, but he's too old for sure.

Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 19 @ 7:37 PM ET
Quick out 3 months...Miller time?
- docmorgan

Too tight.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 19 @ 7:38 PM ET
add this one to the list of things we can whinge about

via the provies:

Hamhuis logged 25:07 for the Stars tonight, a team high. Has two assists in three games, but he's too old for sure.

- dbot

I remember he was our worst Dman for half of the season. He only played well when we were out of the playoff race. Good riddance.
Edit. No one was worse than Weber.
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