Yeah like the sound of that.... had same thoughts and from a marketing perspective as long as they own the team then Vancouver Orca lol or Keep as Canucks lol that would be quite the mirror trick
- Nuck4U

I don't think Canucks would work as a name south of the border...

Plus, imagine how many people would buy "Vancouver Canucks" tickets online, then show up at Rogers Arena to find out they're 500 miles too far north.

We have the worst coach in the league, what do you expect?
- Retinalz

You think he's nervous about his job and wants to minimize rookie mistakes ...? But I have to say think Torts is worse .... who else would you throw down...? WD isn't a favorite win or not he's not well regarded so what's the long term solution ...? There aren't a lot of options ... right...?

I don't think Canucks would work as a name south of the border...

Plus, imagine how many people would buy "Vancouver Canucks" tickets online, then show up at Rogers Arena to find out they're 500 miles too far north.
- Vanoxy

Them Winter Olympics were great for the Oregonian name sake lol

So go with same uniforms and call them Orca lol... it remains to be seen at end of contract with Utica but I got to say that deprived town sure has supported the team there

Very true. Would have been ice to see Guddy or Dorsett send him a message. Or if JV was in the lineup he could have slammed Steens head into the boards. It took over a season for Sestito to get back at Hanzal for taking Sedin out. We need to send a meassage out right away that going after Horvat is not going to fly.
- LordHumungous

Two points were more important

Even if they could of brought Garteig down in time, I think they would of had to send a player down or place Miller on IR. I could be wrong but I think this is just the reality with Goalie injures when they are not serious.
- belcherbd

I think if it is an emergency call up you don't have to send players down

You guys aren't giving the home crowd enough credit.

Edit: You all get a flag.
- bloatedmosquito

I think youre right in that there is a solid fanbase that has supported this team through thick and thin, and its probably greater than a lot of NHL franchises' core fans, but I think the market here has higher priorities over sports. Maybe is the opportunity to be active, maybe its the cost of living or tickets that has people working too hard or pinching pennies, or maybe its the better experience at home than at the rink, none are exclusive reasons to Vancouver, but I think they are more fluid.

I am a sports fan and love to attend games, but I wont pay anywhere near what most are charging to attend an NHL or CFL game in Vancouver. Canadians and Whitecaps provide decent value and atmosphere so I will pay for those, but until the product improves either on the field of play or in the crowd I wont be shilling out much dough to be a part of it, just isnt worth it

Two points were more important
- VANTEL

You think he's nervous about his job and wants to minimize rookie mistakes ...? But I have to say think Torts is worse .... who else would you throw down...? WD isn't a favorite win or not he's not well regarded so what's the long term solution ...? There aren't a lot of options ... right...?
- Nuck4U

Rookies are going to make mistakes, regardless of TOI, line 2 or line 4, etc. It's how rookies respond to those mistakes that should be regarded on if they play or if they sit.

I don't think that's true. 46+ years in the NHL, been to the dance three times, and nothing to show for it. Fans have been there the whole time. Our city's biggest heroes are sports figures. CFL does well. Soccer does well. NBA was not our fault. WHL relocation was a business move to reduce overhead.

There are a lot of fans who go all in when they are winning and start to lose interest when the canucks do poorly. But that's typical and not exclusive to the vancouver market.
- bloatedmosquito

Well said... only few winners most markets deal with frustrations and decades of e droughts ... the difference now there isn't a must see sell on a player or confidence that this team has any chances to be good... winning will change that perception or having some young super star to focus on... then the demand for tickets will get back to what we have been used to since they moved downtown.... remember those mazoleum silent days at the Colisium ...

For all his faults, we are 3-0 with the highest corsi for in the league. In the end, winning all 3 games and still not leading for any of them is not that stat that matters. Until we blunder and lose 10 in a row, Willie isn't going anywhere.
- Codes1087

slick willie gets the benefit of the doubt so far. let's see where he's at on game 20, then game 40, then game 60... before we anoint him as having a successful season.

Also, JV needs to go to Utica, if only to get 18 minutes a night to learn how to play where his mistakes won't matter as much.

Sbisa is slowly redeeming himself.

Gudbranson has shown he is a legit top 3-4 guy. Tanev still can't hit the net and broke his stick on the one attempt I've seen him make to shoot in the first 3 games.

Sedin line is great again.

Sutter playing better than expected.

For all his faults, we are 3-0 with the highest corsi for in the league. In the end, winning all 3 games and still not leading for any of them is not that stat that matters. Until we blunder and lose 10 in a row, Willie isn't going anywhere.
- Codes1087

Doesn't change the fact that he is not an NHL caliber coach. It would be easier to say that the team battled hard to win those games, more so than WD line deployment. Real coaches would have sat our 4th line and just rolled the 3 lines in the last 5 mins of the game to better come back to tie/win. We deserved those wins, but tying the game with less than 3 mins left is still lucky. Markstrom also won us the OT with those 2 or 3 big saves before our goal. that last save off his stick would go in more often than not.

I think youre right in that there is a solid fanbase that has supported this team through thick and thin, and its probably greater than a lot of NHL franchises' core fans, but I think the market here has higher priorities over sports. Maybe is the opportunity to be active, maybe its the cost of living or tickets that has people working too hard or pinching pennies, or maybe its the better experience at home than at the rink, none are exclusive reasons to Vancouver, but I think they are more fluid.

I am a sports fan and love to attend games, but I wont pay anywhere near what most are charging to attend an NHL or CFL game in Vancouver. Canadians and Whitecaps provide decent value and atmosphere so I will pay for those, but until the product improves either on the field of play or in the crowd I wont be shilling out much dough to be a part of it, just isnt worth it
- WhiteLie

I can't think of a specific situation where a person can call out vancouver sports fans as being fickle. Even Burkie’s call out many years ago was not the fault of the fan base as he laid it out. Dumb management moves pissed fans off and they turned their back because it’s the only way fans can get their message across.

I think you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned economics. If the product does not meet the expectations of the buyer then they will turn their attention to other, more satisfying products.

Because you are a fan doesn't mean you are stupid. Canuck owners have to earn our attention. Vancouver sports fans aren't sheep like so many fan bases are.

Rookies are going to make mistakes, regardless of TOI, line 2 or line 4, etc. It's how rookies respond to those mistakes that should be regarded on if they play or if they sit.
- Codes1087

Sure...you think then WD hasn't been fair with JV...? Guance is needed at 4th line center so he gets a pass on expectation ...?.... don't know he seems to play well... JV to show more should get minutes like Baertchi did to develop scoring touch and threat ... right...?

slick willie gets the benefit of the doubt so far. let's see where he's at on game 20, then game 40, then game 60... before we anoint him as having a successful season.

Also, JV needs to go to Utica, if only to get 18 minutes a night to learn how to play where his mistakes won't matter as much.

Sbisa is slowly redeeming himself.

Gudbranson has shown he is a legit top 3-4 guy. Tanev still can't hit the net and broke his stick on the one attempt I've seen him make to shoot in the first 3 games.

Sedin line is great again.

Sutter playing better than expected.
- kaptaan

You realize he set up the winning goal with a shot on net?

slick willie gets the benefit of the doubt so far. let's see where he's at on game 20, then game 40, then game 60... before we anoint him as having a successful season.

Also, JV needs to go to Utica, if only to get 18 minutes a night to learn how to play where his mistakes won't matter as much.

Sbisa is slowly redeeming himself.

Gudbranson has shown he is a legit top 3-4 guy. Tanev still can't hit the net and broke his stick on the one attempt I've seen him make to shoot in the first 3 games.

Sedin line is great again.

Sutter playing better than expected.
- kaptaan

so...
Tanev for Trouba?

slick willie gets the benefit of the doubt so far. let's see where he's at on game 20, then game 40, then game 60... before we anoint him as having a successful season.

Also, JV needs to go to Utica, if only to get 18 minutes a night to learn how to play where his mistakes won't matter as much.

Sbisa is slowly redeeming himself.

Gudbranson has shown he is a legit top 3-4 guy. Tanev still can't hit the net and broke his stick on the one attempt I've seen him make to shoot in the first 3 games.

Sedin line is great again.

Sutter playing better than expected.
- kaptaan

Don't forget Horvat and Hansen picking up right where they left off

slick willie gets the benefit of the doubt so far. let's see where he's at on game 20, then game 40, then game 60... before we anoint him as having a successful season.

Also, JV needs to go to Utica, if only to get 18 minutes a night to learn how to play where his mistakes won't matter as much.

Sbisa is slowly redeeming himself.

Gudbranson has shown he is a legit top 3-4 guy. Tanev still can't hit the net and broke his stick on the one attempt I've seen him make to shoot in the first 3 games.

Sedin line is great again.

Sutter playing better than expected.
- kaptaan

Darn thought Tanner got the OT winner

Pretty impressive, I could really root for this team if they keep playing like this.

Well said... only few winners most markets deal with frustrations and decades of e droughts ... the difference now there isn't a must see sell on a player or confidence that this team has any chances to be good... winning will change that perception or having some young super star to focus on... then the demand for tickets will get back to what we have been used to since they moved downtown.... remember those mazoleum silent days at the Colisium ...
- Nuck4U

Exactly. There has to be a connection between the team and the paying customer.

You are right that connections can be made by winning or a young superstar (young superstar would be my plan). But, leadership can also help strengthen those connections too. As much as Burkie pissed me off he was a master of getting our attention even when his team stunk. He generated that excitement even when the outlook was bleak.

And made a hell of a trade to get 2nd and 3rd overall in 99. Thank God he didn’t try to get Patrik Stefan.

Patrik Stefan

We have the worst coach in the league, what do you expect?
- Retinalz

you forgot the,

Pretty impressive, I could really root for this team if they keep playing like this.
- 13sundin13

How long ago did you bail on the team?

How long ago did you bail on the team?
- CanuckDon

Says the guy with the Las Vegas location.

you forgot the,
- Makita

That's only for sarcasm. I truly think WD is a useless coach and the team loses more because of him than they win thanks to him.

slick willie gets the benefit of the doubt so far. let's see where he's at on game 20, then game 40, then game 60... before we anoint him as having a successful season.

Also, JV needs to go to Utica, if only to get 18 minutes a night to learn how to play where his mistakes won't matter as much.

Sbisa is slowly redeeming himself.

Gudbranson has shown he is a legit top 3-4 guy. Tanev still can't hit the net and broke his stick on the one attempt I've seen him make to shoot in the first 3 games.

Sedin line is great again.

Sutter playing better than expected.
- kaptaan

All things above being legit let's say what are JV's mistakes ...?

That's only for sarcasm. I truly think WD is a useless coach and the team loses more because of him than they win thanks to him.
- Retinalz

Last season for sure. This season, give him 10 or 20 games and then re-assess.