That one timer goal by Panarin on that 2 on 1, was really an underrated play. The pass was in tight to him, and hard, and he ripped it into the back of the net. High level of skill there.

That one timer goal by Panarin on that 2 on 1, was really an underrated play. The pass was in tight to him, and hard, and he ripped iit nto the back of the net. High level of skill there.
- MJL

He wants that Tarasenko money.

TVR will NOT be enough to get anything better or with more potential than Motte, Schmaltz, and Panik. To get a LEGIT, PROVEN top 6 upgrade it's gonna take more than a third pairing D.
- kwolf68

But EDM traded Hall for Larsson... anything is possible

But EDM traded Hall for Larsson... anything is possible
- Slofire94

If Hall = Larsson then does TVR = Draisaitl??

Oh sorry ,must have missed that . Yes agree he would be nice add ,would sweeten the pot with TVR big time for him .Maybe TVR 2nd and prospect Pokka would do it ..
- oldduffman

I think that's a bit much, TvR and McNeill or Svedberg would be fine.

If Hall = Larsson then does TVR = Draisaitl??
- EnzoD

I agree with your logic.

Anyone else notice that we went 2/4 on the PK last night, and actually IMPROVED our PK percentage?

Anyone else notice that we went 2/4 on the PK last night, and actually IMPROVED our PK percentage?
- tvetter

Thanks for that terrifying tidbit

Anyone else notice that we went 2/4 on the PK last night, and actually IMPROVED our PK percentage?
- tvetter

Baby Steps

I think that's a bit much, TvR and McNeill or Svedberg would be fine.
- DarthKane

Folks - CC is NOT a part of the problem.

Anyone who has actually played the position understands a few things very quickly about what ails during the Hawks PK (where the vast majority of the GA have come from)

1. Playing with one less guy has its own inherent issues keeping the puck out of the net.

2. If your defenders challenge shooters and deny time and space, the ice ahead is more open, it is easier to track the puck, and the point men cannot set screens through traffic.

3. If your PK scheme is to collapse, block lanes and block shots, the goalie's view is MUCH more obstructed, and the combination of O and D in a confined area makes the areas in front of the crease a series of visual obstructions and pinball bumpers that impede tracking the puck and increases redirects. You also risk injury to players whose role is to block shots, and you grant possession to the opposition by default due to a lack of pursuit. AND - the point man has ALL DAY to hold and line up shots through screens.

The Hawks' choice to adopt the turtle scheme is the true reason why the PK blows. It is also the lazy way to play the PK.

Sorry if this does not fit the narrative of the video game crowd, but I speak truth.
- Return of the Roar

For what it's worth, I did play goal for a NCAA D1 hockey team in the early 80s. I went back and looked at last night's 4 goals.
1. Slow, or lazy, moving post to post after the first shot went past the net. Sure, the D lost coverage, but he should have been on the near post when the 2nd shot was taken.
2. Down too early, opened up the short side, got roofed. Rule # 1 of goaltending. Never get beat on the short side. Make them beat you long.
3. Opened up the 5 hole. didn't keep his pads sealed.
4. Only 1 that was tough, close in rebound from just in front of the net. Shot over the catching glove.

I'm not saying CC's a bad goalie. Just the opposite. I'm saying the CC is a world class goalie, who is way better than he's playing.

For what it's worth, I did play goal for a NCAA D1 hockey team in the early 80s. I went back and looked at last night's 4 goals.
1. Slow, or lazy, moving post to post after the first shot went past the net. Sure, the D lost coverage, but he should have been on the near post when the 2nd shot was taken.
2. Down too early, opened up the short side, got roofed. Rule # 1 of goaltending. Never get beat on the short side. Make them beat you long.
3. Opened up the 5 hole. didn't keep his pads sealed.
4. Only 1 that was tough, close in rebound from just in front of the net. Shot over the catching glove.

I'm not saying CC's a bad goalie. Just the opposite. I'm saying the CC is a world class goalie, who is way better than he's playing.
- scottak

You can make that argument for last nights game, but he was lights out game 2. No help from the team though.

Hopefully he went out last night and celebrated #500.
- bhawks2241

The thing I liked the best about Hossa's goal was him lifting McDonald's stick right before flicking the backhander through Neuvirth. It's the kind of small, but vital, play that makes him a HOFer.

He wants that Tarasenko money.
- teh_HAWKZ

That's really scary! If we plan to keep him, we need to sign him like now before he has another year like last or better. It took the PAK line a little while to get going, but they are looking better with each game. AP gets hot and we ARE looking at Tarasenko money....Ugh!

Would love to know where the cap is going this off-season....

That's really scary! If we plan to keep him, we need to sign him like now before he has another year like last or better. It took the PAK line a little while to get going, but they are looking better with each game. AP gets hot and we ARE looking at Tarasenko money....Ugh!

Would love to know where the cap is going this off-season....
- Matt_Foleys_bro

Can the players use the escalator clause every year?

Can the players use the escalator clause every year?
- tvetter

I'm not 100% sure but this is what I found:

The escalator clause was built into the CBA because the salary cap is designed to increase each year. The clause, which designates a five percent year-to-year increase, requires annual approval from the NHLPA.

I didn't see anything about how often they can use it. I would assume every year, unless there's other stipulations. Any of you people in the know out there, please chime in!

Nothing lately. all I heard last week was he is definitely on the block, but I have also heard that going back into the summer.
- John Jaeckel

Who is going to trade for him? Every NHL team probably has a player on their AHL team that is as good, if not better than him. That is a player that takes up space on yur 50 contract limit and provides a moving practice pylon.

He looked good a few years back and since then, not so much. The game, as it has with fringe players for a few years now, has passed him by. I do not think even Edmonton would take him.

I am not even writing this because he is a Hawk. I liked him and was a bit miffed you guys came up wth him. But now....no, he is not good anymore.

Who is going to trade for him? Every NHL team probably has a player on their AHL team that is as good, if not better than him. That is a player that takes up space on yur 50 contract limit and provides a moving practice pylon.

He looked good a few years back and since then, not so much. The game, as it has with fringe players for a few years now, has passed him by. I do not think even Edmonton would take him.

I am not even writing this because he is a Hawk. I liked him and was a bit miffed you guys came up wth him. But now....no, he is not good anymore.
- BluemanGuruu

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That's really scary! If we plan to keep him, we need to sign him like now before he has another year like last or better. It took the PAK line a little while to get going, but they are looking better with each game. AP gets hot and we ARE looking at Tarasenko money....Ugh!

Would love to know where the cap is going this off-season....
- Matt_Foleys_bro

Keep him on a line with 19 and you won't have to worry about him asking for 6/yr.

For what it's worth, I did play goal for a NCAA D1 hockey team in the early 80s. I went back and looked at last night's 4 goals.
1. Slow, or lazy, moving post to post after the first shot went past the net. Sure, the D lost coverage, but he should have been on the near post when the 2nd shot was taken.
2. Down too early, opened up the short side, got roofed. Rule # 1 of goaltending. Never get beat on the short side. Make them beat you long.
3. Opened up the 5 hole. didn't keep his pads sealed.
4. Only 1 that was tough, close in rebound from just in front of the net. Shot over the catching glove.

I'm not saying CC's a bad goalie. Just the opposite. I'm saying the CC is a world class goalie, who is way better than he's playing.
- scottak

So, CC is human, how many mistakes is he afforded, 1,2,3 per game? Is he allowed an off game, did he have the trots, jock itch, maybe a cold? Is he PO'd at a girlfriend or possibly a DMan with a Dzone turnover that pulled his focus for a split second? Or did he simply read postings on this site...

Every other major sport measures success in less than a goaltenders 92% success rate. Batting averages 3 out of 10, shooting percent from the field, completion percent, the list can go on. At times posters on this board are highly critical of players when a mistake occurs. I am not saying we forgive and forget all mistakes. Top tier players and leaders should make far fewer. I do believe Crow received criticism that is far overboard. I would be willing to bet between periods he is talking to Jimmy and telling him what he did wrong. I am sure he knows it and to quote Cutler's favorite phrase; "will clean it up."

I am sure this is how Crow has felt a few times between periods

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvMX1Yan0Es

Just my $0.02

Panik should probably frame this. Now about those youth. . .

Who is going to trade for him? Every NHL team probably has a player on their AHL team that is as good, if not better than him. That is a player that takes up space on yur 50 contract limit and provides a moving practice pylon.

He looked good a few years back and since then, not so much. The game, as it has with fringe players for a few years now, has passed him by. I do not think even Edmonton would take him.

I am not even writing this because he is a Hawk. I liked him and was a bit miffed you guys came up wth him. But now....no, he is not good anymore.
- BluemanGuruu

No.

Like what Elliot Freeman said last night about the league in general " how much this league is turning into a young mans league ,there are now as many 20 and underage players as 35 plus " . I believe he is correct ,and will only see a escalation in the coming years ,with a flat cap or not . HAWKS are on the right course moving kids in early to gain experience ,they will need it down the stretch . All teams have holes and are filling them with young inexperienced players .In the future it will be much tougher to move picks and prospects at the deadline for rentals .

Like what Elliot Freeman said last night about the league in general " how much this league is turning into a young mans league ,there are now as many 20 and underage players as 35 plus " . I believe he is correct ,and will only see a escalation in the coming years ,with a flat cap or not . HAWKS are on the right course moving kids in early to gain experience ,they will need it down the stretch . All teams have holes and are filling them with young inexperienced players .In the future it will be much tougher to move picks and prospects at the deadline for rentals .
- oldduffman

I heard yesterday that on the current rosters there are 77 rookies - that's 11% of the 690 rostered players.

Add that to the comment above about "20 and unders" - not sure how good for the league it is that the league seems to be turning somewhat into a development league - kids learning in the show instead of in the "A" (or, even, juniors).

As much as many of us don't want to see it, Rosy didn't just sign to be Kempny's language buddy.

He's probably going to have to play sometime.
- Rupe89

He was signed to loyalty contract for insurance.