You certainly are a master of the "tongue in cheek," FlamesFan.... That being said, I understand your point - through two games this year our analytics are not great. However, his posted statistics include the tire fire vs Montreal (one of the worst hockey games I have watched in years, and that includes the Tank O Rama season). The game vs Edmonton was a complete 180, which gives me some hope that we might possibly be able to tread water until Eichel and Kane return.

Wouldn't read too much into it at this point. It's his former team and I imagine he was slotted in to start the game regardless.
- Flames in 6 04

Probably, but this game could be the confidence builder that Elliott needs to get back on track.

Probably, but this game could be the confidence builder that Elliott needs to get back on track.
- SRam19

If he is that fragile he can pound sand

Todd Cordell loves the Sabres.... I agree that we aren't the best 5v5 team, but shot totals aside, the Sabres dominated puck possession for a majority of the game vs Edmonton (a team that recently smoked the Flames twice) so it would be nice if you showed just a smidgen of respect for them. Looking forward to the game tonight
- sabres1980

When you lose 6-2 you can't defend your team no matter how much they had the puck

Hey I'm not saying we are world beaters, FlamesFan, but to attribute that Oilers win to dumb luck seems silly. Señor Cordell sounds about as cocky as Garf in this blog. Good luck to your Flames against the Charlestown Chiefs tonight
- sabres1980

Chill out man. Todd is normally pretty neutral and by no means a Flames homer. I can't believe you just Garfed him. Enjoy your ban!

Probably, but this game could be the confidence builder that Elliott needs to get back on track.
- SRam19

He's a solid veteran who knows what his abilities are, I don't think he needs to build up confidence to much

Hey I'm not saying we are world beaters, FlamesFan, but to attribute that Oilers win to dumb luck seems silly. Señor Cordell sounds about as cocky as Garf in this blog. Good luck to your Flames against the Charlestown Chiefs tonight
- sabres1980

The flames are by far not todds favorite team, he rarely chooses sides. He is just calling it how it is, if he sabres play like they did against the oilers the flames should win. Same thing the other way around if the flames play like they did against the oilers the sabres should win

The flames are by far not todds favorite team, he rarely chooses sides. He is just calling it how it is, if he sabres play like they did against the oilers the flames should win. Same thing the other way around if the flames play like they did against the oilers the sabres should win
- Bigalow

So...if they score 6 goals, Calgary is gonna beat them?

That game, and many others over the course of all teams' seasons, show that using single-game analytics is pretty lame. Not a knock on you or the blogger, I know the season is young so there's obviously not a big selection to go off of at this point.

So...if they score 6 goals, Calgary is gonna beat them?

That game, and many others over the course of all teams' seasons, show that using single-game analytics is pretty lame. Not a knock on you or the blogger, I know the season is young so there's obviously not a big selection to go off of at this point.
- stashu

Plus Lehner is better than what people think, and I would be wary of Reinhart.

Reinhart is gunna surprise people.

you're certainly making a lot of assumptions of this Sabres team off of......"attempts" and"out chanced" stats? Are you serious, I hope this is a joke, or you're Tanner in disguise?

Stats are pretty useless this early in the season but if you want some, here are a few that actually matter:

Goals For Goals Against PP% PK%

Sabres 7 6 27.3(10th) 100(1st)
Calgary 8 13 10 (20th) 78.6(19th)

....or the fact that a team without it's best player schooled an Oil team, shutting down McDavid with only 1 shot, the same Oil team that picked the Flames apart on 2 occasion so far.

I'm not trying to be a deck, but this was a pretty poor analysis for why it will be an easy Win for the Flames.

you're certainly making a lot of assumptions of this Sabres team off of......"attempts" and"out chanced" stats? Are you serious, I hope this is a joke, or you're Tanner in disguise?

Stats are pretty useless this early in the season but if you want some, here are a few that actually matter:

Goals For Goals Against PP% PK%

Sabres 7 6 27.3(10th) 100(1st)
Calgary 8 13 10 (20th) 78.6(19th)

....or the fact that a team without it's best player schooled an Oil team, shutting down McDavid with only 1 shot, the same Oil team that picked the Flames apart on 2 occasion so far.

I'm not trying to be a deck, but this was a pretty poor analysis for why it will be an easy Win for the Flames.
- nikel

I agree with you completely, there is a reason why the games have to be played and if the the Flames are going to take the Sabres lightly they are in trouble. Sabres win easily tonight by two goals or more.

I agree with you completely, there is a reason why the games have to be played and if the the Flames are going to take the Sabres lightly they are in trouble. Sabres win easily tonight by two goals or more.
- FlamesFan1230

Stop that reverse psychology!!!

I say that after seeing I think 100% of the predictions in the Sabres/Oilers game on our board go in favor of a blowout Oilers win...

So...if they score 6 goals, Calgary is gonna beat them?

That game, and many others over the course of all teams' seasons, show that using single-game analytics is pretty lame. Not a knock on you or the blogger, I know the season is young so there's obviously not a big selection to go off of at this point.
- stashu

“I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself”, Sir Winston Churchill

A certain blogger on this site seems to have taken a page out of Churchills playbook!

you're certainly making a lot of assumptions of this Sabres team off of......"attempts" and"out chanced" stats? Are you serious, I hope this is a joke, or you're Tanner in disguise?

Stats are pretty useless this early in the season but if you want some, here are a few that actually matter:

Goals For Goals Against PP% PK%

Sabres 7 6 27.3(10th) 100(1st)
Calgary 8 13 10 (20th) 78.6(19th)

....or the fact that a team without it's best player schooled an Oil team, shutting down McDavid with only 1 shot, the same Oil team that picked the Flames apart on 2 occasion so far.

I'm not trying to be a deck, but this was a pretty poor analysis for why it will be an easy Win for the Flames.
- nikel

Did they actually school them though? Or did they just get lucky?

Did they actually school them though? Or did they just get lucky?
- FlamesFan12

who knows, could be luck, there were a couple ugly goals for sure

only 2 games in is def. not enough to start draw comparisons between mediocre teams
That was the point I was making

But, on the bright side, I think all 3 of the teams we're talking about def. have bright futures ahead.

you're certainly making a lot of assumptions of this Sabres team off of......"attempts" and"out chanced" stats? Are you serious, I hope this is a joke, or you're Tanner in disguise?

Stats are pretty useless this early in the season but if you want some, here are a few that actually matter:

Goals For Goals Against PP% PK%

Sabres 7 6 27.3(10th) 100(1st)
Calgary 8 13 10 (20th) 78.6(19th)

....or the fact that a team without it's best player schooled an Oil team, shutting down McDavid with only 1 shot, the same Oil team that picked the Flames apart on 2 occasion so far.

I'm not trying to be a deck, but this was a pretty poor analysis for why it will be an easy Win for the Flames.
- nikel

You do realize the attempts and chances stats hold a lot more relevance than some unsustainable special teams numbers right?

you're certainly making a lot of assumptions of this Sabres team off of......"attempts" and"out chanced" stats? Are you serious, I hope this is a joke, or you're Tanner in disguise?

Stats are pretty useless this early in the season but if you want some, here are a few that actually matter:

Goals For Goals Against PP% PK%

Sabres 7 6 27.3(10th) 100(1st)
Calgary 8 13 10 (20th) 78.6(19th)

....or the fact that a team without it's best player schooled an Oil team, shutting down McDavid with only 1 shot, the same Oil team that picked the Flames apart on 2 occasion so far.

I'm not trying to be a deck, but this was a pretty poor analysis for why it will be an easy Win for the Flames.
- nikel

Either way it's still going to be an easy win for the flames hate to burst out bubble

Either way it's still going to be an easy win for the flames hate to burst out bubble
- Bigalow

Lotta big talk for a winless team

Lotta big talk for a winless team
- jcragcrumple

I guess we'll just let the season play out and see where your team is and where ours is. It doesn't end well for you

I guess we'll just let the season play out and see where your team is and where ours is. It doesn't end well for you
- Bigalow

Well I'm not going to make the broad predictions about the season you are, but I think you're underestimating the Sabres if you think this is an "easy win" for you guys. -4 and 1 assist for your best player, and you're talking like a cup contender

Well I'm not going to make the broad predictions about the season you are, but I think you're underestimating the Sabres if you think this is an "easy win" for you guys. -4 and 1 assist for your best player, and you're talking like a cup contender
- jcragcrumple

If you knew anything about the Flames you would know Lance Bouma is our best player. Todd typically blogs about how amazing he is.

Any argument that talks about a players +- is a loosing argument. JG gets the heaviest defensive zone starts and is always shutting down the best lines from the other team.

You really need to learn about hockey.

If you knew anything about the Flames you would know Lance Bouma is our best player. Todd typically blogs about how amazing he is.

Any argument that talks about a players +- is a loosing argument. JG gets the heaviest defensive zone starts and is always shutting down the best lines from the other team.

You really need to learn about hockey.
- DuranDuran

Lol. Stats that show Sabres are bad = good stats. Stats that aren't good for flames = bad stats.

I assume you're joking about Bouma. I hope you're joking about Bouma

Lol. Stats that show Sabres are bad = good stats. Stats that aren't good for flames = bad stats.

I assume you're joking about Bouma. I hope you're joking about Bouma
- jcragcrumple

YES! You are finally getting it.

I am guessing you are new to Hockey Buzz and have just had an epiphany. This should clear up any confusion you have with posters from other teams in the future.

Lotta big talk for a winless team
- jcragcrumple

Lotta big talk for a one win team.

YES! You are finally getting it.

I am guessing you are new to Hockey Buzz and have just had an epiphany. This should clear up any confusion you have with posters from other teams in the future.


- DuranDuran

Well this whole conversation is nonsensical then. You seem to be implying that you don't actually believe the hot takes you're spewing