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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 18 @ 2:24 PM ET
I thought you were
- YuenglingJagr

aww how sweet
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 18 @ 2:25 PM ET
I dislike the Red Sox because, for literally (frank)ing decades, they whined and complained that the Yankess always bought their championships. And I can respect that. Then, the Red Sox go out and buy a championship, and their fans get all defensive when other people tell them they bought a championship.

I can accept that fact that you felt you needed to mimic what the Yankess did to beat them, but you're a bunch of hypocrites.

- jmatchett383


You realize in 2004 the Yankees payroll was 182 million, while the Red Sox was 125 million. How is that copying what the Yankees did?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 18 @ 2:25 PM ET
This is EXACTLY why I hate them. They try to differentiate themselves from that evil empire that is the Yankees, when in reality, they did what they called the yanks out for doing and say it's not the same.
- Hextall271

don't lie you'd love it if philly bought a championship or 2 at this point
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 18 @ 2:33 PM ET
And they do it with worse haircuts and even more annoying accents!
- bodiva88


haha see! you get it.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 18 @ 2:33 PM ET
don't lie you'd love it if philly bought a championship or 2 at this point
- 2Real


How would they do that with the cap?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 18 @ 2:35 PM ET
How would they do that with the cap?
- Hextall271


Well they could buy themselves a guy who can get rid of some problem players whose cap hits don't equal their performance.

Not suggesting anything, just making a statement

Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 18 @ 2:38 PM ET
You realize in 2004 the Yankees payroll was 182 million, while the Red Sox was 125 million. How is that copying what the Yankees did?
- PLindbergh31


.. and the Jays were probably at 60 mil. Yanks and Sox were both in the realm of teams buying a championship in comparison to most teams. The fact they were trying to come off as being like Oakland is a farce.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 18 @ 2:39 PM ET
.. and the Jays were probably at 60 mil. Yanks and Sox were both in the realm of teams buying a championship in comparison to most teams. The fact they were trying to come off as being like Oakland is a farce.
- Hextall271


If it is as simple as spending money where are the Flyers Cups from when there was no cap? They outspent a large majority of the NHL routinely. What is there to show for it?
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Oct 18 @ 2:40 PM ET
Neuvirth starting...cousins out
- YuenglingJagr


Whose Neuvirth's cousin and why is he out?
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Oct 18 @ 2:42 PM ET
Whose Neuvirth's cousin and why is he out?
- hockeylover


Bjork. She has a concert to attend.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Oct 18 @ 2:46 PM ET
2004
- jmatchett383


that was the least yankees like of any of their championship teams
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Oct 18 @ 2:48 PM ET
.. and the Jays were probably at 60 mil. Yanks and Sox were both in the realm of teams buying a championship in comparison to most teams. The fact they were trying to come off as being like Oakland is a farce.
- Hextall271


they used the same ideas, just with a higher bank roll
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Oct 18 @ 2:56 PM ET
(frank) is VDV really that untouchable...

Don't answer that.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Oct 18 @ 2:57 PM ET
(frank) is VDV really that untouchable...

Don't answer that.

- dragonoffrost



EDIT:
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 18 @ 3:17 PM ET
(frank) is VDV really that untouchable...

Don't answer that.

- dragonoffrost


Word is Schenn will be healthy scratched for the home opener, with VdV back to the 1LW spot he sometimes played under Berube.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Oct 18 @ 3:24 PM ET
Word is Schenn will be healthy scratched for the home opener, with VdV back to the 1LW spot he sometimes played under Berube.
- Feanor

I heard he was taking net. Been practicing.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 18 @ 3:28 PM ET
Word is Schenn will be healthy scratched for the home opener, with VdV back to the 1LW spot he sometimes played under Berube.
- Feanor


Call me crazy, but I prefer the lineup with VDV in for Schenn and Gudas out for all of the Three Stooges. I would keep it this way until January and then reacess.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 18 @ 3:31 PM ET
I'm happy that these guys are all finding homes in front offices, but damn... is it really necessary to shut these sites down after people get hired?

Does the info/tech really need to be proprietary?

- Tomahawk



Is that what happened, or was it just not profitable?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 18 @ 3:33 PM ET
People should be rooting like hell for MacDonald to play great. The better him and Read play the better they look as possible trade chips.

Also the better they help the Flyers win games.

I think MacDonald has been good so far. I think Schultz has been the weakest defender these first 2 games.

- J35Bacher



The contract is always going to be an issue with MacDonald. In order for them to trade him at some point, with retained salary likely, he has to be playing in the NHL and playing well. I agree, it's a good thing that MacDonald has played well.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 18 @ 3:33 PM ET
You realize in 2004 the Yankees payroll was 182 million, while the Red Sox was 125 million. How is that copying what the Yankees did?
- PLindbergh31


They were #1 and #2 in team payroll that year, and the distance between #2 and #3 was pretty large. Sure, they didn't match the payroll of the Yankees, but they still bought a championship.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 18 @ 3:33 PM ET
don't lie you'd love it if philly bought a championship or 2 at this point
- 2Real


I would love it, and I would freely admit that my team was willing to spend money to win. It's not so much that they spent the money, more that they tried to differentiate them buying a championship from the evil empire Yankees buying theirs.

FWIW, I was a Yankees fan from 1996-2001 because of family ties to Tino Martinez.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 18 @ 3:37 PM ET
I would love it, and I would freely admit that my team was willing to spend money to win.
- jmatchett383



I'd go to the parade, but I would carry a sign with an asterisk on it!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 18 @ 3:40 PM ET
If it is as simple as spending money where are the Flyers Cups from when there was no cap? They outspent a large majority of the NHL routinely. What is there to show for it?
- PLindbergh31


They had to spend all that money to compete with all of the other big market teams that won Cups like New Jersey, Tampa Bay, Colorado, and Dallas. That's why they instituted the salary cap, right? So that small market teams like New York, Toronto, and the Flyers could remain competitive.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 18 @ 3:43 PM ET
they used the same ideas, just with a higher bank roll
- YuenglingJagr


Yes, but the mystique behind Oakland was that they were run on a shoe string budget and had to be competitive. Boston used the same methods, but just outbid everybody to get who they wanted.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 18 @ 3:44 PM ET
They really aren't going to have as much room as people think unless they let MDZ walk or trade one of the top 6 forwards.
- PhillySportsGuy



They're looking at 22M of cap space as of now, with out any increase in cap space. Have to believe that one of the young defenseman is going to make the jump to the team. Really the only contracts that might see a significant increase is Del Zotto , Gostisbehere, and whatever they decide to do with the goaltending. They could be looking at a decent chunk of money to dip into free agency, if they choose to.
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