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Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Oct 18 @ 11:12 PM ET
7-4. How embarrassing. I have to live in this (frank)ing city that's been kicking our asses since 2010
- moylander


I can think of at least 474 worse reasons for living in CHI
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Oct 18 @ 11:13 PM ET
Trump Kane 2020
- Landsbergfan


The ladies be linin' up to vote...
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 18 @ 11:14 PM ET
Almost cruel to put Provorov back on to get another - on an EN, but it was a show of faith too. Just a tough tough game for Provorov. He really didn't do much wrong with his game. Just awful luck, a stumble, poor coverage by his teammates, a pass in the skates after a heads up play, never getting bailed out. This is a big learning game, but it still didn't feel like he played that poorly. Everything just spiraled or didn't break right.
- Mononoke


I agree. It's not like he looked overwhelmed. He had some weird things happen tonight.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 18 @ 11:15 PM ET
Honestly, it kind of feels good that he had a game like this so early on. It's how Ivan and, more importantly, the whole team responds that will provide a real insight
- Mordecai


I feel so bad for him. Ghost meanwhile was King Sloppy Turnover tonight and got off most times. Just a nightmare game where everything went wrong for him rather than him making poor decisions.

Someone needs to give him a hug. And I think it should be Gudas.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Oct 18 @ 11:15 PM ET
I agree. It's not like he looked overwhelmed. He had some weird things happen tonight.
- PhillySportsGuy


Far from your typical game tonight.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 18 @ 11:17 PM ET
I agree. It's not like he looked overwhelmed. He had some weird things happen tonight.
- PhillySportsGuy


Matt Read did some voodoo spell using a lock of Provorov's hair. There's no way he got that lucky in the same game.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Oct 18 @ 11:17 PM ET
I feel so bad for him. Ghost meanwhile was King Sloppy Turnover tonight and got off most times. Just a nightmare game where everything went wrong for him rather than him making poor decisions.

Someone needs to give him a hug. And I think it should be Gudas.

- Mononoke


There is nothing more comforting than Radko's warm embrace. That, I absolutely cannot deny.
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Oct 18 @ 11:18 PM ET
Matt Read did some voodoo spell using a lock of Provorov's hair. There's no way he got that lucky in the same game.
- Mononoke


I'm thinking maybe the Hawks did the same poop to suck the offense out of the Cubs.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 18 @ 11:19 PM ET
Matt Read did some voodoo spell using a lock of Provorov's hair. There's no way he got that lucky in the same game.
- Mononoke


After two years of tough luck, Read is going to PDO his way to 40 goals this year
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 18 @ 11:23 PM ET
There is nothing more comforting than Radko's warm embrace. That, I absolutely cannot deny.
- Mordecai


"Ivan, it's not your fault."

"I know that."

"It's not your fault. It's not your fault"

Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 18 @ 11:29 PM ET
After two years of tough luck, Read is going to PDO his way to 40 goals this year
- PhillySportsGuy


He's the best bottom 6 player, along with Raffl. And people wanted HIM to sit or be sent down so we could use Weise, Gordon, VDV, PEB, Lyubimov, or whoever. It's hilarious that they made it an initiative to improve the bottom 6, and it hasn't been at all. Just using a 3rd line of Raffl-Cousins-Read is better than any of the crap they're doing or want to do. Then Leier/Laughton-Gordon-PEB or something would've been fine. Really had nothing to do with upgrades, just properly utilizing players. They could still do that with Weise (who has looked pretty crap) in on the 4th. Potential is there for a good bottom 6 instead of this dog crap.
ChoclitLeClair
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.30.2015

Oct 18 @ 11:30 PM ET
Wow. Ivan Provorov was a hot mess tonight. People are blaming his -5 or whatever it is on every other player, but come on. Try a little objectivity. He was terrible. Bad positioning, bad decisions all night.

I'm not coming down on him. He's just a kid right now. and one day he'll be a fixture in our top four. But if he continues to have jitters, it might not hurt to put him in the press box for a couple games when Gudas returns.

I know I know. It's Mason's fault. It's Streit's fault. It's AMac's fault.

Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 18 @ 11:34 PM ET
Wow. Ivan Provorov was a hot mess tonight. People are blaming his -5 or whatever it is on every other player, but come on. Try a little objectivity. He was terrible. Bad positioning, bad decisions all night.

I'm not coming down on him. He's just a kid right now. and one day he'll be a fixture in our top four. But if he continues to have jitters, it might not hurt to put him in the press box for a couple games when Gudas returns.

I know I know. It's Mason's fault. It's Streit's fault. It's AMac's fault.

- ChoclitLeClair


First goal is Streit making 2 poor plays: 1, not playing defense leading to 2 on 1 and 2, not even covering the post when he was right there. Second goal he lost an edge, just tough. Third goal Read's fault -- that's his man who snuck in. Fourth goal a good rush idea, just passed into the skates of Coots, leads to odd man other way. Fifth the EN.

So, no, he wasn't nearly the hot mess you're making out. In fact, that's the lazy narrative tbh. Just a weird unfortunate game for him. Made his share of mistakes, but nowhere near the level -5 looks like. Just every time he got burned for them or his teammates hung him out to dry. Ghost had every bit as bad a night personally and was even.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 18 @ 11:35 PM ET
He's the best bottom 6 player, along with Raffl. And people wanted HIM to sit or be sent down so we could use Weise, Gordon, VDV, PEB, Lyubimov, or whoever. It's hilarious that they made it an initiative to improve the bottom 6, and it hasn't been at all. Just using a 3rd line of Raffl-Cousins-Read is better than any of the crap they're doing or want to do. Then Leier/Laughton-Gordon-PEB or something would've been fine. Really had nothing to do with upgrades, just properly utilizing players. They could still do that with Weise (who has looked pretty crap) in on the 4th. Potential is there for a good bottom 6 instead of this dog crap.
- Mononoke


The Cousins thing is baffling to me. They do this every (frank)ing year with someone.

Let's try a bunch of alternatives that won't work then give Cousins a chance.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 18 @ 11:41 PM ET
The Cousins thing is baffling to me. They do this every (frank)ing year with someone.

Let's try a bunch of alternatives that won't work then give Cousins a chance.

- PhillySportsGuy


PEB is a possession black hole and a scoring black hole, but wow he did good for Team Europe! Let's overwrite 2 years of NHL data for 6 games or w/e for a 31 year old import. Cousins is a 23 year old sophomore p/pg scorer in the AHL and former 100 pt junior player who showed in his 30+ games he can play center in this league. But he is the odd man out because of Hak's love affair with his 4th line from last year. Weise looks bleh so far. Basically Raffl without the 2-way play. VDV needs to get shot out of a cannon. Lyub could be OK, but he wasn't impressive tonight.

Honestly, in a weird turn of events Gordon is the one player who I'm at least mildly ok with. He hasn't been that bad. Just give him better faster wingers and he could be ok as 4C. But we upgraded our bottom 6 by getting Weise, a worse player than Read, to be 3RW, PEB a mediocre 4C to be 3C, and VDV still in. Those are upgrades? It's a joke.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 18 @ 11:45 PM ET
And for the love of Moses, why is Sean Couturier our FIFTH penalty killer?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 18 @ 11:47 PM ET
And for the love of Moses, why is Sean Couturier our FIFTH penalty killer?
- Mononoke

You know the answer to this
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Oct 18 @ 11:51 PM ET
Our #1 goalie looked great
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 18 @ 11:52 PM ET
You know the answer to this
- Giroux_Is_God


Lappy is an idiot who never fails to show it?
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 18 @ 11:53 PM ET
Our #1 goalie looked great
- YuenglingJagr


Oh, here you come trotting in after this demoralizing night making jokes like nothing happened. Provorov is getting sent back to juniors. It's not funny.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Oct 18 @ 11:54 PM ET
Oh, here you come trotting in after this demoralizing night making jokes like nothing happened. Provorov is getting sent back to juniors. It's not funny.
- Mononoke

Do I have to use another Micheal Scott GIF?
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 18 @ 11:56 PM ET
Do I have to use another Micheal Scott GIF?
- Mordecai


Yes. It better not be the "No" gif though. That's dump and chase level gif work. We want gif skills and creativity here.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Oct 19 @ 12:04 AM ET
Yes. It better not be the "No" gif though. That's dump and chase level gif work. We want gif skills and creativity here.
- Mononoke

YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Oct 19 @ 12:12 AM ET
Oh, here you come trotting in after this demoralizing night making jokes like nothing happened. Provorov is getting sent back to juniors. It's not funny.
- Mononoke


I just wanted to get my message across before provorov is traded for trouba
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 19 @ 12:16 AM ET
I just wanted to get my message across before provorov is traded for trouba
- YuenglingJagr


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