Kessler was pegged as a defensive forward until he was given the opportunity to play an offensive role. You can't develop NHL offense without the time playing in that role. Of course coaches want you to be defensively responsible before getting that role but no one is questioning Bo's defensive game. The NHL now is all about scoring and the Nukcs need to develop that in their forwards.
- Nuck4U

Bo will be fine.
i'd rather he be sheltered and allow to develop all aspects of his game in time.
He's still young. 21. i looked it up.

Hey congrats on the big goal! did your fans come up with excuses as to your first 2 games?

What I first said towards JV was that he should be sent down once Rodin comes back. I thought Baer-BoHo-Rodin had some good chemistry and Van needs the offence.
- Kaynine

We don't have any clue when Rodin will be ready. The word is no timetable... he can always go on LTR retroactively too so Lt keeps their options open for now as they don't need the cap room.

We can't know where the team or JV will be by then either.

Though JV and Rodin are two very different players. In fact Canucks don't have any player like JV so why would you single him out?

Bo will be fine.
i'd rather he be sheltered and allow to develop all aspects of his game in time.
He's still young. 21. i looked it up.
- dbot

Right isn't that what the middle six role will allow for...?

Right isn't that what the middle six role will allow for...?
- Nuck4U

I'm not concerned with what number we give to the lines.
To me it's splitting hairs.
His ice-time speaks for itself.

Eklund is a bloody weasel....

Eklund is a bloody weasel....
- CanuckDon

What now?
You still on about those pop up ads that are afflicting you?

I'm not concerned with what number we give to the lines.
To me it's splitting hairs.
His ice-time speaks for itself.
- dbot

Sure... just being with certain players in certain positions generates a path of development .... e.g. you get put with checkers you wind up mostly checking

Kessler was pegged as a defensive forward until he was given the opportunity to play an offensive role. You can't develop NHL offense without the time playing in that role. Of course coaches want you to be defensively responsible before getting that role but no one is questioning Bo's defensive game. The NHL now is all about scoring and the Nukcs need to develop that in their forwards.
- Nuck4U

Kesler is a defensive forward - hence the Selke - it's his MO - defensively responsible with great secondary scoring. Bo is not pegged as a McDavid but he is pegged as a Kesler...it's why we traded a franchise, Vezina-caliber goalie for him.

For him to become a Kesler he'll need a strong offensive and defensive game and the stats are pretty clear which one of those needs work right now. Whether it's playing 16 minutes a night with Burrows and Dorsett or 15 minutes with JV or Granlund or Baerschi doesn't matter that much...

We don't have any clue when Rodin will be ready. The word is no timetable... he can always go on LTR retroactively too so Lt keeps their options open for now as they don't need the cap room.

We can't know where the team or JV will be by then either.

Though JV and Rodin are two very different players. In fact Canucks don't have any player like JV so why would you single him out?
- Nuck4U

I just feel he needs seasoning in the AHL. He will be a big part of our future and I think for his development he's better of playing in the minors. You watch his play, he looks a little lost and panickes. Besides, him playing 10min a nite is jot productive when he can be playing more minutes and in all situations.

Kesler is a defensive forward - hence the Selke - it's his MO - defensively responsible with great secondary scoring. Bo is not pegged as a McDavid but he is pegged as a Kesler...it's why we traded a franchise, Vezina-caliber goalie for him.

For him to become a Kesler he'll need a strong offensive and defensive game and the stats are pretty clear which one of those needs work right now. Whether it's playing 16 minutes a night with Burrows and Dorsett or 15 minutes with JV or Granlund or Baerschi doesn't matter that much...
- Ronning4ever

Stats...?!? Are you talking about the skewed plus minus... Let's not peg such a young talent ... Hank was pegged as a slow defensive forward for his first years ....

If he's with offensively capable players he'd still have to play defense but he won't be able to work on much offense with defensive players ....

Besides this team's greatest need is to produce offense

I just feel he needs seasoning in the AHL. He will be a big part of our future and I think for his development he's better of playing in the minors. You watch his play, he looks a little lost and panickes. Besides, him playing 10min a nite is jot productive when he can be playing more minutes and in all situations.
- Kaynine

There is that theory but the usual reason for getting sent to the AHL is you aren't ready for NHL minutes or someone else is better at what you can do ... not sure if JV fits that.... if you want him to score in the NHL he needs to play NHL minutes to do that .... more he plays NHL minutes the better he learns

Wow! General Fanager shutting it down.

Wow! General Fanager shutting it down.
- Eldebrink

lame.

it was a dumb name tho.

Great opportunity for one of us numbnuts that has way to much time on our hands to open up a new one!

Wow! General Fanager shutting it down.
- Eldebrink

No money no honey

Wow! General Fanager shutting it down.
- Eldebrink

Good hire for Vegas.

[quote=Nuck4U]There is that theory but the usual reason for getting sent to the AHL is you aren't ready for NHL minutes or someone is else is better at what you can do ... not sure if JV fits that.... if you want him to score in the NHL he needs to play NHL minutes to do that .... more he plays NHL minutes the better he learns

But that's the thing, what he can do is not something I think he is doing. Watch him closely tomorrow night. He doesn't quite know what to do with the puck and he struggles with reading and reacting to the play.

His strengths are skating, quick release and getting in on the forecheck and putting pressure on the D. With Bo and Baer he is playing the high guy to try and get off the quick release, except it isn't happening.

Look we are talking 2 games with more to come, I just feel like Rodin is a better fit and JV needs more minutes then 10 a nite.

[quote=Nuck4U]There is that theory but the usual reason for getting sent to the AHL is you aren't ready for NHL minutes or someone is else is better at what you can do ... not sure if JV fits that.... if you want him to score in the NHL he needs to play NHL minutes to do that .... more he plays NHL minutes the better he learns

But that's the thing, what he can do is not something I think he is doing. Watch him closely tomorrow night. He doesn't quite know what to do with the puck and he struggles with reading and reacting to the play.

His strengths are skating, quick release and getting in on the forecheck and putting pressure on the D. With Bo and Baer he is playing the high guy to try and get off the quick release, except it isn't happening.

Look we are talking 2 games with more to come, I just feel like Rodin is a better fit and JV needs more minutes then 10 a nite.
- Kaynine

I hear you.... time will tell... and maybe JV's game clicks like Baer and Bo's did playing NHL minitues.

Rodin isn't an option now but if he does become one... let's hope soon....wouldn't you rather see a capable JV and Rodin in the line up.... that's what this team will need to ramp it up...

lame.

it was a dumb name tho.

Great opportunity for one of us numbnuts that has way to much time on our hands to open up a new one!


- dbot

Was it NHL that shut it down?

I hear you and I understand the line of thinking…still don't think it was a smart coaching decision however. And I have backed WD since day 1 but I just can't do it here.

You don't take your most productive forward from the last half of the previous season and tell him he is playing with Burrows and Dorsett because we need to 'develop your defensive responsibilities'. Horvat's defense will improve just fine on the third line with Sven and JV (if JV is the guy). In a time where the team is just coming off one of it's lowest goal production years in team history this is not something that you do.

You don't say to Bo…hey…'we like what you bring offensively but instead of 50+ points this year (on an offence starved team) you are going to be around 20-30 pts but defensively responsible.

I get that Bo is 'buying in' to what they are trying to accomplish…what choice does he have. But with an upside of more points than Henrik in his second year you do not stall that production and upside regardless of some defensive issues. You find a way to work around it.

There are tons of 4LC's out there that can be defensively responsible and we have one in Granlund apparently. Bo is slotted to be our 3-2LC for awhile..let him develop there where he has earned it and let Gaunce 'earn' his 4th line duties like Horvat did awhile back….or give the 4th line to Granlund and let him run with it. If he beats Bo out for a 2-3LC slot then so be it. But Granlund hasn't earned what Bo has after 102 games IMO.

I'm not going to carry on the issue much more but I know a few here have backed WD on the decision…and it is not a good one. I'm sure Bo will be locked into 2-3LC in no time but that doesn't change the fact that it was a head-scratcher and a bloody wrong decision.
- LordHumungous

In his time here so far the last few seasons WD seems unusually hard on Bo for some reason none of us know.

I think youre right that other players get handed ice time and spots on the team yet Bo seems to have to jump through hoops. It could be a pushing tactic but that can backfire easily and alienate him from the team too.

Hope he treads carefully

Was it NHL that shut it down?
- VANTEL

Dunno.
First i've heard about it.

I saw that he was hired by LV, but why does that mean it has to be shut down?
Similar to the other one? capgeek. Why can they not be run by someone else?

Dunno.
First i've heard about it.

I saw that he was hired by LV, but why does that mean it has to be shut down?
Similar to the other one? capgeek. Why can they not be run by someone else?
- dbot

https://twitter.com/pater...status/788166748226789376

https://twitter.com/patersonjeff/status/788166748226789376
- VANTEL

Somehow this has got to be a conspiracy directed towards Canucks fans.
Where's that conspiracy theorist dude bettmanhatesus?
He'll tell me how this adversely affects our team!

Sounds like Blue Jays are history

Somehow this has got to be a conspiracy directed towards Canucks fans.
Where's that conspiracy theorist dude bettmanhatesus?
He'll tell me how this adversely affects our team!
- dbot

Blame Canada

Sounds like Blue Jays are history
- VANTEL

Where's the yawn emoji.