Subban and Letang not on the roster is inexcusable... they would have been the best 2 d men on Canada... we agree on this
- Brianandr1

Yes and no. Depends on the style of play. And what Canada did seemed to work. If they needed offence from the back end, yes. With the team they assembled Boumeister sp?? and Vlasic were the perfect guys for that team. In the regular NHL 8 days a week I would take Subban and Letang over those two. Chemistry and RH / LH defines which Babcock swears by too hence Subban and Letang watching at home instead of playing. Either way I think they would have won anyway.

Well then we disagree, Subban and Letang had better offensive numbers last season per game. Letang is equal if not better then Doughty in his own end... does not get the credit because of who he plays with...
- Brianandr1

you are starting to sound a little bit like a fan boy brianandr. not trying to be mean

Yes and no. Depends on the style of play. And what Canada did seemed to work. If they needed offence from the back end, yes. With the team they assembled Boumeister sp?? and Vlasic were the perfect guys for that team. In the regular NHL 8 days a week I would take Subban and Letang over those two. Chemistry and RH / LH defines which Babcock swears by too hence Subban and Letang watching at home instead of playing. Either way I think they would have won anyway.
- al3535

no doubt

I Dought that
- Nucker101

Oh snap !!!


And agreed

You missed a great Coyotes game last night James. Richardson was great as always! His speed and grit led to a sweet short handed goal. Great feed from Martinook. And Doan dominated the game, scored a goal. You know the line you said was the worst in the NHL. I know you don't watch. But that's OK. stats are fun too. I can't wait to see the Leafs in the playoffs this year. This is so exciting!

you are starting to sound a little bit like a fan boy brianandr. not trying to be mean
- martox

Subban plays for Nashville and honestly your a Pens fan: Is their any d man in the league you would take over a healthy Kris Letang for 2016-7?

Subban plays for Nashville and honestly your a Pens fan: Is their any d man in the league you would take over a healthy Kris Letang for 2016-7?
- Brianandr1

over a fully healthy letang and assured he stays healthy through the whole season? no there is probably noone else I would pick. the chance of him staying healthy is low though.

In my opinion there have been two generational players, Orr and Gretzky and now it looks like McDavid will be number three. I'm a big Crosby fan but those other guys were on another level and I think McDavid will be too. Orr and Gretzky had their haters and I'm sure McDavid will too. Instead we should enjoy every minute of watching him play.

In my opinion there have been two generational players, Orr and Gretzky and now it looks like McDavid will be number three. I'm a big Crosby fan but those other guys were on another level and I think McDavid will be too. Orr and Gretzky had their haters and I'm sure McDavid will too. Instead we should enjoy every minute of watching him play.
- shack67

Mario is not generational??? 690 goals in 900 games.. 2 cups, 3, harts, 5 Ross trophies... imagine if he had been healthy... he would certainly have had more goals then Gretz and possibly more points... Missed more then a year to back issue, a year and a half to cancer and 4 years to retirement before 35! If that not generational who is? (and please don't use the injury excuse.. Orr had his fair share and he's on your list)

Most dominant and the most talented player I ve ever watched...

In my opinion there have been two generational players, Orr and Gretzky and now it looks like McDavid will be number three. I'm a big Crosby fan but those other guys were on another level and I think McDavid will be too. Orr and Gretzky had their haters and I'm sure McDavid will too. Instead we should enjoy every minute of watching him play.
- shack67

wait so you are saying gretzky and orr are generational talents (they are) but no mention of howe and mario? but you add mcdavid to that? I am sorry but that is a huge joke...

That Newsom album any good? I kind of fell off her stuff after Ys
- Crimsoninja

I like it, but it's not for everyone that's for sure.

While you are being reminded how the U.S. did at the world Cup, you should also be reminded how Canada dominated and won, despite not having Taylor Hall on the team and others you felt shouldn't be there because of what Corsi said. Thus proving that the management who put that team together somehow knew what they were doing.
- leonkennedy

. Of course they won, and they could have won with 56 different combos of players....likely they could have used an entirely different roster and still won.

The fact that they won in no proves they took the optimal lineup....

I like it, but it's not for everyone that's for sure.
- James_Tanner

ha kind of goes without saying with her

i'll give it a go

Mario is not generational??? 690 goals in 900 games.. 2 cups, 3, harts, 5 Ross trophies... imagine if he had been healthy... he would certainly have had more goals then Gretz and possibly more points... Missed more then a year to back issue, a year and a half to cancer and 4 years to retirement before 35! If that not generational who is? (and please don't use the injury excuse.. Orr had his fair share and he's on your list)

Most dominant and the most talented player I ve ever watched...
- Brianandr1

In my opinion. Didn't say it was a fact.

???? If you combined U.S.A and Russia together Canada would still win. Our B team could probably still beat the U.S.A and Russia.
- al3535

This is about making Tanner aware that the professionals in charge of these things know a hell of a lot more about putting together and running a team than he does.

. Of course they won, and they could have won with 56 different combos of players....likely they could have used an entirely different roster and still won.

The fact that they won in no proves they took the optimal lineup....
- James_Tanner

Chris Kunitz is was third (Haglein, Hornqvist) on the Pens in Corsi and one of the best in the league (according to that stat)... I like Kunitz, he a good player... but how can this stat have any meaning on a team with Crosby, Malkin, Letang et????
Drew Doughty says advanced stats are "s*%t"..

I don't doubt that they are one indictor of a good player, however it seams the advocates of this method of evaluating players have a terrible tendency to site the stats when it makes their argument and ignore them with its inconvenient... that's called "bad science" in the real world...

In my opinion. Didn't say it was a fact.
- shack67

So in your opinion Mario Lemieux is not a generational talent??? but Mc david is ? and why please if you don't mind my asking?

wait so you are saying gretzky and orr are generational talents (they are) but no mention of howe and mario? but you add mcdavid to that? I am sorry but that is a huge joke...
- martox

Howe's biggest talent was longevity. Similar numbers to Messier who I don't consider generational either. I think a generational player revolutionizes the game and to me only Gretzky and Orr have done that, not Lemieux. I wouldn't have traded Gretzky for two Marios'

. Of course they won, and they could have won with 56 different combos of players....likely they could have used an entirely different roster and still won.

The fact that they won in no proves they took the optimal lineup....
- James_Tanner

It actually proves that they did due to the fact you can in no way prove otherwise, and you are merely speculating

Howe's biggest talent was longevity. Similar numbers to Messier who I don't consider generational either. I think a generational player revolutionizes the game and to me only Gretzky and Orr have done that, not Lemieux. I wouldn't have traded Gretzky for two Marios'
- shack67

Mario was a 6'5 player in a league of 5 '11 guys... and was almost impossible to knock off the puck...He redefined the center position! How many big men have their been before and after? I don't doubt Gretz is an all time great but really??

So in your opinion Mario Lemieux is not a generational talent??? but Mc david is ? and why please if you don't mind my asking?
- Brianandr1

Maybe I'm biased because they were in the league at the same time and to me Gretzky was the better player and it wasn't even close. Gretzky was the reason the game opened up like it did and Mario was able to take advantage of it, not the other way around. As for McDavid I think he too will change the way the game is played.

Maybe I'm biased because they were in the league at the same time and to me Gretzky was the better player and it wasn't even close. Gretzky was the reason the game opened up like it did and Mario was able to take advantage of it, not the other way around. As for McDavid I think he too will change the way the game is played.
- shack67

I'm not debating Mario vs. Gretz... I'm just pointing out that Mario also changed the way the game is played... size and the left wing lock (developed by the devils to slow down Mario btw).... and WAIT!!! So Mcdavid has changed the way the game is played but Crosby hasn't? Please explain how that is?

Maybe I'm biased because they were in the league at the same time and to me Gretzky was the better player and it wasn't even close. Gretzky was the reason the game opened up like it did and Mario was able to take advantage of it, not the other way around. As for McDavid I think he too will change the way the game is played.
- shack67

I agree McDavid will change the way the game is played. I think alot of younger players that have come in to the nhl has started the change of how the game will be played (which is speed and skill) but McDavid will be the epitome of it. Mario is second in points per game and he played hurt almost all the time AND he played most of his career in the 90s and early 2000s where the league was devoid of scoring

I'm not debating Mario vs. Gretz... I'm just pointing out that Mario also changed the way the game is played... size and the left wing lock (developed by the devils to slow down Mario btw).... and WAIT!!! So Mcdavid has changed the way the game is played but Crosby hasn't? Please explain how that is?
- Brianandr1

I can't think how crosby has changed the game tbh... I know mcdavid will change it to a more speed based game.

I agree McDavid will change the way the game is played. I think alot of younger players that have come in to the nhl has started the change of how the game will be played (which is speed and skill) but McDavid will be the epitome of it. Mario is second in points per game and he played hurt almost all the time AND he played most of his career in the 90s and early 2000s where the league was devoid of scoring
- martox

Crosby is the captain and a key part of a team that just won a cup based on speed, Mcdavid has played 50 games... if speed is going to redefine the NHL in the future how is Crosby not at the top of the list if speed is the factor we re discussing?