I agree, line numbers are really not relevant but its how you use them that matters. I really cant see Sutter Hansen and Gaunce outscoring Bo, Burrows and Doresett to be honest, especially if Sutter's line sees more of oppositions 2nd/3rd lines and Bo's sees more 3/4th
- WhiteLie

Burrows shouldn't be in the league let alone flanking our top young player...

Fire Willie D if he's trying to put our second best scoring centre on the 4th line with two players that can't score. What is this guy thinking???? He's been overmatched at the NHL lever as a coach and should head back to junior. Isn't this why we got Sutter to take the defensive matchups so that Horvat didn't have to take those tough matchups, then this CHL coach goes and puts him on the 4th line? In what world does playing Horvat on the 4th line as your checking centre work our for the development of Horvat or the good of the Canucks season? Maybe the Canucks are tanking by keeping W.D. for a coach because he sure hasn't done anything since he's taken over. Kind of a stupid move to hire a rookie coach when you're trying to make the playoffs. Just have no clue what he's thinking putting our future #1 centre with 2 grinders to make sure he doesn't score and putting him against other teams best scoring lines, thereby diminishing his scoring chances even more. Wasn't that the huge problem last year was Horvat having to play against the top lines? Wasn't Sutter supposed to take those assignments this year so Horvat didn't end up with the worst +/- in the NHL again this year. So by having scoring problems, the genius Willie Dejardins coaching decision is to put one of our best scorers with the two worst scorers on the team on the fourth line and put our best defensive/face off centre on the second line with our secondary scorers. I have no clue what this guy is thinking. Why not put Henrik on the fourth line to balance the lineups too. FIRE THIS GUY ASAP.

No, the way to score is by putting the puck into the opponent's net. And, that net is at the other end of the rink entirely.
- stringerbell[/quote


Willie D is still a CHL coach. Fire him before he ruins our young players.

What is hockey? Tell me more about this game master yoda.

Everytime the canucks do something that breaks the mould of the 1970s you lose your shiit.

But Max, the first line is supposed to be our best line and the fourth line is supposed to be our goon line.. How am i supposed to establish a hierarchy if we dont have concrete line combinations. Coaches never mix their lines mid-game and the team is really just a bunch of individuals all trying to score goals every shift. There are no more dynamics in the game than that and I don't want to wear some 4th liners jersey.


Fkk this site
- Max.Betts

I was born a long time after the 70s so I have no idea what that's about.

As far as I can tell most are not upset because of the line number attached, but because of what these linemates mean for Horvats role and how Willie will deploy him. We all want to see him play good offense and not be forced into a shutdown role. Hope you got all your frustrations out though

Burrows shouldn't be in the league let alone flanking our top young player...
- CanuckDon

I give this a little more of a chance if only because of the point made that Bo carries the puck a lot and creates on his own. Burrows even in his prime was never the most skilled or fastest guy on the ice, but he was smart enough to know where to get goals and that might compliment Bo's game. I dont give the experiment much of a chance of success based on Burrows' play the past few seasons, but theres a chance that Burrows can still bang in a few

Fire Willie D if he's trying to put our second best scoring centre on the 4th line with two players that can't score. What is this guy thinking???? He's been overmatched at the NHL lever as a coach and should head back to junior. Isn't this why we got Sutter to take the defensive matchups so that Horvat didn't have to take those tough matchups, then this CHL coach goes and puts him on the 4th line? In what world does playing Horvat on the 4th line as your checking centre work our for the development of Horvat or the good of the Canucks season? Maybe the Canucks are tanking by keeping W.D. for a coach because he sure hasn't done anything since he's taken over. Kind of a stupid move to hire a rookie coach when you're trying to make the playoffs. Just have no clue what he's thinking putting our future #1 centre with 2 grinders to make sure he doesn't score and putting him against other teams best scoring lines, thereby diminishing his scoring chances even more. Wasn't that the huge problem last year was Horvat having to play against the top lines? Wasn't Sutter supposed to take those assignments this year so Horvat didn't end up with the worst +/- in the NHL again this year. So by having scoring problems, the genius Willie Dejardins coaching decision is to put one of our best scorers with the two worst scorers on the team on the fourth line and put our best defensive/face off centre on the second line with our secondary scorers. I have no clue what this guy is thinking. Why not put Henrik on the fourth line to balance the lineups too. FIRE THIS GUY ASAP.
- HaidaGwaii16

Dude, please. Giant blocks of text are offensive to the eyes.

Dude, please. Giant blocks of text are offensive to the eyes.
- NorthNuck

Another new guy coming in hot with essay rants

What is hockey? Tell me more about this game master yoda.

Everytime the canucks do something that breaks the mould of the 1970s you lose your shiit.

But Max, the first line is supposed to be our best line and the fourth line is supposed to be our goon line.. How am i supposed to establish a hierarchy if we dont have concrete line combinations. Coaches never mix their lines mid-game and the team is really just a bunch of individuals all trying to score goals every shift. There are no more dynamics in the game than that and I don't want to wear some 4th liners jersey.


Fkk this site
- Max.Betts

there is more dynamics. For example we have shut down line or roles. WHen you prevent opposition scoring it wins games defensively. Forwards have defensive roles too....thats why kesler was so valuable. And sutter now.

dont see why theres all the JB hate.

Are you joking? The Canucks were a perennial powerhouse for the last 15 years. We were the best team in hockey for 2 of the 4 seasons prior to JB taking over.

And, in the two and a half years since he took over, we are now a laughing-stock. We were arguably the worst team in the entire league last year.

Think about that for a second...

We were the best team in the entire NHL in 2011/2012. In 2015/2016 we were the worst.

Best to worst in 4 years.

A lot of that was Jim Benning's doing. Not all, but a lot.

And, it's hilarious how everyone is complaining that we aren't rebuilding. We were the worst team in the league last year. And, we're not rebuilding? What does rebuilding entail if being the worst team in the league for a season isn't even close to accomplishing it? Benning dismantled the team and replaced everyone who could score with players who can't score to save their lives. He took us straight to the bottom of the NHL standings. And, everyone thinks we aren't rebuilding...

If Mike Gillis had run the team into the ground this fast, everyone would have been outside the arena with pitchforks. But, Benning always seems to get a pass.

Worst team in the league last year. And, we aren't rebuilding. Chew on that for a while...

Another new guy coming in hot with essay rants
- WhiteLie

I know I'm relatively new posting here, but I read the blogs and comments months before I joined so I kinda understood the tone, glad I didn't come in with any kind of grudge

Fire Willie D if he's trying to put our second best scoring centre on the 4th line with two players that can't score. What is this guy thinking???? He's been overmatched at the NHL lever as a coach and should head back to junior. Isn't this why we got Sutter to take the defensive matchups so that Horvat didn't have to take those tough matchups, then this CHL coach goes and puts him on the 4th line? In what world does playing Horvat on the 4th line as your checking centre work our for the development of Horvat or the good of the Canucks season? Maybe the Canucks are tanking by keeping W.D. for a coach because he sure hasn't done anything since he's taken over. Kind of a stupid move to hire a rookie coach when you're trying to make the playoffs. Just have no clue what he's thinking putting our future #1 centre with 2 grinders to make sure he doesn't score and putting him against other teams best scoring lines, thereby diminishing his scoring chances even more. Wasn't that the huge problem last year was Horvat having to play against the top lines? Wasn't Sutter supposed to take those assignments this year so Horvat didn't end up with the worst +/- in the NHL again this year. So by having scoring problems, the genius Willie Dejardins coaching decision is to put one of our best scorers with the two worst scorers on the team on the fourth line and put our best defensive/face off centre on the second line with our secondary scorers. I have no clue what this guy is thinking. Why not put Henrik on the fourth line to balance the lineups too. FIRE THIS GUY ASAP.
- HaidaGwaii16

yes he's not very bright. Not nhl level at all....obviously

yes he's not very bright. Not nhl level at all....obviously
- SMBDragon

Speaking of not very bright...

Are you joking? The Canucks were a perennial powerhouse for the last 15 years. We were the best team in hockey for 2 of the 4 seasons prior to JB taking over.

And, in the two and a half years since he took over, we are now a laughing-stock. We were arguably the worst team in the entire league last year.

Think about that for a second...

We were the best team in the entire NHL in 2011/2012. In 2015/2016 we were the worst.

Best to worst in 4 years.

A lot of that was Jim Benning's doing. Not all, but a lot.

And, it's hilarious how everyone is complaining that we aren't rebuilding. We were the worst team in the league last year. And, we're not rebuilding? What does rebuilding entail if being the worst team in the league for a season isn't even close to accomplishing it? Benning dismantled the team and replaced everyone who could score with players who can't score to save their lives. He took us straight to the bottom of the NHL standings. And, everyone thinks we aren't rebuilding...

If Mike Gillis had run the team into the ground this fast, everyone would have been outside the arena with pitchforks. But, Benning always seems to get a pass.

Worst team in the league last year. And, we aren't rebuilding. Chew on that for a while...
- stringerbell

well we are seeing a lack of drafting during that gillis AND nonis period. It took a few years to see effect. And will take a few to see JBs work too. Chill on that, JBs restocking

Are you joking? The Canucks were a perennial powerhouse for the last 15 years. We were the best team in hockey for 2 of the 4 seasons prior to JB taking over.

And, in the two and a half years since he took over, we are now a laughing-stock. We were arguably the worst team in the entire league last year.

Think about that for a second...

We were the best team in the entire NHL in 2011/2012. In 2015/2016 we were the worst.

Best to worst in 4 years.

A lot of that was Jim Benning's doing. Not all, but a lot.

And, it's hilarious how everyone is complaining that we aren't rebuilding. We were the worst team in the league last year. And, we're not rebuilding? What does rebuilding entail if being the worst team in the league for a season isn't even close to accomplishing it? Benning dismantled the team and replaced everyone who could score with players who can't score to save their lives. He took us straight to the bottom of the NHL standings. And, everyone thinks we aren't rebuilding...

If Mike Gillis had run the team into the ground this fast, everyone would have been outside the arena with pitchforks. But, Benning always seems to get a pass.

Worst team in the league last year. And, we aren't rebuilding. Chew on that for a while...
- stringerbell

A lil bit of knowledge is dangerous.
JB inherited an old team past their prime.
He can draft & Gillis could not.
Thats why we r where we r.

Get over it

Are you joking? The Canucks were a perennial powerhouse for the last 15 years. We were the best team in hockey for 2 of the 4 seasons prior to JB taking over.

And, in the two and a half years since he took over, we are now a laughing-stock. We were arguably the worst team in the entire league last year.

Think about that for a second...

We were the best team in the entire NHL in 2011/2012. In 2015/2016 we were the worst.

Best to worst in 4 years.

A lot of that was Jim Benning's doing. Not all, but a lot.

And, it's hilarious how everyone is complaining that we aren't rebuilding. We were the worst team in the league last year. And, we're not rebuilding? What does rebuilding entail if being the worst team in the league for a season isn't even close to accomplishing it? Benning dismantled the team and replaced everyone who could score with players who can't score to save their lives. He took us straight to the bottom of the NHL standings. And, everyone thinks we aren't rebuilding...

If Mike Gillis had run the team into the ground this fast, everyone would have been outside the arena with pitchforks. But, Benning always seems to get a pass.

Worst team in the league last year. And, we aren't rebuilding. Chew on that for a while...
- stringerbell

It's been nice an peaceful around here since your last post two months ago. If you hate the team so much cheer for Austin Matthews. I have a sneaking suspicion you are Gillis wife or mistress. Good day madam

You know... they do have suppositories to help get that stick out of your ass, might help with the irritable bowel syndrome.
- DariusKnight

lol

I know I'm relatively new posting here, but I read the blogs and comments months before I joined so I kinda understood the tone, glad I didn't come in with any kind of grudge
- NorthNuck

You're annoying. Please go back to reading and not writing.

Sincerely,

Everyone here.

Well have brought this up in the last three threads. Especially the fact he's had since end of preseason Horvat playing a 4th line cheking role with Burr. But he had Granlund with Sutter. WD is more obsessed about who he has as the fourth line center then generating scoring lines.

Seems WD doesn't think Sutter is burly enough to take on big centers in a checking role. He sees him as a shooter and has been consistently scoring. So he gets PP1 minutes too. Horvatt isn't pressed for offense and is left to play like in his rookie year.

With Rodin out WD is like shying away from all skill lines. Well except for twins but he thinks with LE they are two way enough anyway.

The "second" line with Baertchi will have a lot of pressure on it now. Granlund and JV haven't proven their scoring and Baer just is getting started. So a Sutter or Horvat with some proven NHL scoring should be a better center, right?

The Sutter line with Hanson and Gaunce just looks like more of a grinding line like Horvatt with Burr & DD. There is potential for popping a goal or having a counter but they won't be generating any offensive skill.

Conclusion, seems like WD wants to slow the game down and play a grinding defensive first style to limit goals and hope that one or two goals are enough to win a game.

You're annoying. Please go back to reading and not writing.

Sincerely,

Everyone here.
- dshiddy

Striker - eat a Richard emo.....

Youre such a whiner....

You're annoying. Please go back to reading and not writing.

Sincerely,

Everyone here.
- dshiddy

Are you joking? The Canucks were a perennial powerhouse for the last 15 years. We were the best team in hockey for 2 of the 4 seasons prior to JB taking over.

And, in the two and a half years since he took over, we are now a laughing-stock. We were arguably the worst team in the entire league last year.

Think about that for a second...

We were the best team in the entire NHL in 2011/2012. In 2015/2016 we were the worst.

Best to worst in 4 years.

A lot of that was Jim Benning's doing. Not all, but a lot.

And, it's hilarious how everyone is complaining that we aren't rebuilding. We were the worst team in the league last year. And, we're not rebuilding? What does rebuilding entail if being the worst team in the league for a season isn't even close to accomplishing it? Benning dismantled the team and replaced everyone who could score with players who can't score to save their lives. He took us straight to the bottom of the NHL standings. And, everyone thinks we aren't rebuilding...

If Mike Gillis had run the team into the ground this fast, everyone would have been outside the arena with pitchforks. But, Benning always seems to get a pass.

Worst team in the league last year. And, we aren't rebuilding. Chew on that for a while...
- stringerbell

I've got a few extra $$$'s if you'd like to buy a clue......

Striker - eat a Richard emo.....

Youre such a whiner....
- chompsey

Starting off the season w scrambled lines is bizarre...if this was game ten it would be acceptable
- CanuckDon

By whose account? Yours? Jesus.......much ado about nothing here....

- CanuckDon

Sorry Don, I'm extra surly today....