- DarthKane

Did i say that?...there's no doubting the cap has hurt us. I was just saying it as more of a bold prediction

Would to ship off Seabrook?

Massive contract, but could probably get you some good pieces...
- Hank3Henshaw

You would think he would be on the top of the list to go. Kruger's 3 mil could come back to haunt us too. Love the guy but that price is a lot

Did i say that?...there's no doubting the cap has hurt us. I was just saying it as more of a bold prediction
- hawks1921

No, I just like using this GIF whenever possible.

You would think he would be on the top of the list to go. Kruger's 3 mil could come back to haunt us too. Love the guy but that price is a lot
- hawks1921

Kruger can exposed in the expansion draft if necessary.

Panik-Toews-Kane
Panarin-Anisimov-Hossa
Motte-Kruger-Hartman
Hino-Rasmussen-Schmaltz/Ice Hog

Keith-Hammer
Kempny-Seabrook
Forsling-Campbell
TVR-Rosival
- EnzoD

Not that forth line. Rasmussen yes. The other two? I don't know man.

I've thought the same thing with the Red Wings last 5 years and every year they are around 100 points. The Hawks will be there as well, Last night they were only down by 1 goal, since the refs were so generous with the 5 on 3's, sure they were penalties but let's be honest here slashing and interference could of been called on the Blues all night long.

The Hawks won't struggle making the playoffs but they are going to struggle 5 on 5 scoring, Let's see where they are at after 10 games, my guess is 13 to 16 points
- BetweenTheDots

Kane and Panarin did not have an exceptional night last night. Left a lot of pucks to no one or behind guys.

I think if the third line can add some pop (they got an es goal with ZERO offensive zone starts) then I think that helps tremendously. It will be interesting to see how it plays out because it will take several games to know what this team actually has.

Besides Crawford ...The only redeemable factor I saw last night was the play of Kempney.

TVR was obviously not good but playing with Keith is not a blessing in disguise. Especially so when Keith was worse than average by his own standards.
TVR faces the big line for the Blues too often when playing with Keith and that isn't where he belongs.

Other possible positive is Seabrook and Keith should play less PK minutes this year than in the past..."Should" being the operative word, and if not then that would signal trouble.

JJ,

I agree with you but I would not wait any longer on pulling the trigger on a larger trade. We don't need both Crawford and Darling. We also have a surplus of D, so TVR could be part of said deal.

BTW, do you know who or what was being offered by Calgary for Crawford during the off season? The trade you reported on prior to the draft.


- gifman

I heard this afternoon:

(quotation marks are direct quotes)

"10 games" will be the deciding point. There are a lot of auditions going on. They did not end with the last preseason game.

Why wait 10 games? Because anyone with a calculator and a rudimentary understanding of the cap, the hawks roster and their talent pipeline knows a big, possibly painful and surprising trade would need to be made at that point—assuming the team is not performing significantly better than it did last night— to "right the ship" for a Cup run this year.

This team is "not in rebuild mode." 6 rookies and an aggregate performance like last night's are those of a rebuilding team.

While I did not hear this specifically today, this source has been clear this summer and fall (and usually mentions this) that Bowman has explored a lot of eventualities. Put another way, there may be some odeals of the nature described above to be made. But it will be a shock to the system for those who take the entirety of the current core for granted.

"TVR is and has been on the block," but I don't think the possible moves would end with him. Point here is that his job is there for Forsling to take, right now.

Babcock said it was the "best night I've had here(Toronto) by ten miles, not even close". My reply - you had a low bar to clear to make that statement.
- Jason Millen

The best night in Toronto is an OT loss?!?

Outmatched...yes.

And I know everybody and their dog will be throwing the young guys under the bus, then bussing them all down to Rockford. BUT......That 2nd period, where the collapse REALLY took hold was because of poor penalties taken by TCR, Toews, Anisonov and Keith.

It was a poor effort by the WHOLE team. Except perhaps "Craw", who held us in there. I am not too tore up by it. Give the team 10-12 games first.....then bring out the pitchforks!!!!

Dear Blackhawks Coaching Staff,
THIS JUST IN : Vladamir Tarasenko is a good hockey player and is destroying you.

It's honestly baffling to me that after last year's playoff series where he absolutely TORE us up that he can roam free and snipe us some more.
Get a FREAKING body on the guy already ....

I heard this afternoon:

(quotation marks are direct quotes)

"10 games" will be the deciding point. There are a lot of auditions going on. They did not end with the last preseason game.

Why wait 10 games? Because anyone with a calculator and a rudimentary understanding of the cap, the hawks roster and their talent pipeline knows a big, possibly painful and surprising trade would need to be made at that point—assuming the team is not performing significantly better than it did last night— to "right the ship" for a Cup run this year.

This team is "not in rebuild mode." 6 rookies and an aggregate performance like last night's are those of a rebuilding team.

While I did not hear this specifically today, this source has been clear this summer and fall (and usually mentions this) that Bowman has explored a lot of eventualities. Put another way, there may be some odeals of the nature described above to be made. But it will be a shock to the system for those who take the entirety of the current core for granted.

"TVR is and has been on the block," but I don't think the possible moves would end with him. Point here is that his job is there for Forsling to take, right now.
- John Jaeckel

I have said this without hearing anything but I don't think they can standpat too long if things are dicey.

First off the schedule until mid November slants toward the Hawks the next 30 days is different.

Also, Toews has brought up several times about a lack of chemistry was an issue last year because trades happened later in the year. Not sure I buy that as the reason for a 1st round loss. But Toews has made a point of saying trades came too late more than once and I'm sure the point has been made to Bowman as well.

Fact is starting off in a hole isn't a good recipe for any team. But especially so for one with a good deal of inexperience.

I don't think Bowman will have trouble dealing TVR-But if that is the guy to go, Bowman can't afford to make a mistake. As has been seen there isn't a lot of interest in the Ice Hogs who couldn't make the big club.

I heard this afternoon:

(quotation marks are direct quotes)

"10 games" will be the deciding point. There are a lot of auditions going on. They did not end with the last preseason game.

Why wait 10 games? Because anyone with a calculator and a rudimentary understanding of the cap, the hawks roster and their talent pipeline knows a big, possibly painful and surprising trade would need to be made at that point—assuming the team is not performing significantly better than it did last night— to "right the ship" for a Cup run this year.

This team is "not in rebuild mode." 6 rookies and an aggregate performance like last night's are those of a rebuilding team.

While I did not hear this specifically today, this source has been clear this summer and fall (and usually mentions this) that Bowman has explored a lot of eventualities. Put another way, there may be some odeals of the nature described above to be made. But it will be a shock to the system for those who take the entirety of the current core for granted.

"TVR is and has been on the block," but I don't think the possible moves would end with him. Point here is that his job is there for Forsling to take, right now.
- John Jaeckel

I have a name in mind which would be a shock to many but not completely surprising to me.

I heard this afternoon:

(quotation marks are direct quotes)

"10 games" will be the deciding point. There are a lot of auditions going on. They did not end with the last preseason game.

Why wait 10 games? Because anyone with a calculator and a rudimentary understanding of the cap, the hawks roster and their talent pipeline knows a big, possibly painful and surprising trade would need to be made at that point—assuming the team is not performing significantly better than it did last night— to "right the ship" for a Cup run this year.

This team is "not in rebuild mode." 6 rookies and an aggregate performance like last night's are those of a rebuilding team.

While I did not hear this specifically today, this source has been clear this summer and fall (and usually mentions this) that Bowman has explored a lot of eventualities. Put another way, there may be some odeals of the nature described above to be made. But it will be a shock to the system for those who take the entirety of the current core for granted.

"TVR is and has been on the block," but I don't think the possible moves would end with him. Point here is that his job is there for Forsling to take, right now.
- John Jaeckel

>If yesterday's play continues, you will have to question what the entire organization was doing all off-season
>Too many of the same problems
>Cannot win a PK or PP faceoff
>Cannot solve the 2-man forecheck
>Poor puck management
>Zero puck support
>Cannot hit the net with open looks

Dear Blackhawks Coaching Staff,
THIS JUST IN : Vladamir Tarasenko is a good hockey player and is destroying you.

It's honestly baffling to me that after last year's playoff series where he absolutely TORE us up that he can roam free and snipe us some more.
Get a FREAKING body on the guy already ....
- eyewtkas

Problem is his body is bigger than anyone on the Hawks. He's listed at 220lbs and he is every bit of it. I think it was TVR that just bounced off him last night and landed on his backside.

>If yesterday's play continues, you will have to question what the entire organization was doing all off-season
>Too many of the same problems
>Cannot win a PK or PP faceoff
>Cannot solve the 2-man forecheck
>Poor puck management
>Zero puck support
>Cannot hit the net with open looks
- SnapitUpstairs

Well that always goes to the: Were the Hawks so talented that their talent overcame the coaching/front office deficiencies? I think that might be a yes.

I have a name in mind which would be a shock to many but not completely surprising to me.


- RickJ

My guess is Seabs or AA

That's what I was thinking with Tootoo pop in once and a while when they need some grit.

I think a line like this would be set up better for success vs. what Q rolled out for game #1.
- TyCamScore

Q has to put him on the ice to provide grit.

Problem is his body is bigger than anyone on the Hawks. He's listed at 220lbs and he is every bit of it. I think it was TVR that just bounced off him last night and landed on his backside.
- bhawks2241

It was TVR and scary thing is Tarasenko was basically standing still.

My guess is Seabs or AA
- ikeane

I will beat the same dead horse but AA was the player I would have dealt this summer.

I will beat the same dead horse but AA was the player I would have dealt this summer.
- Al

Anisimov for Horvat!

Just saw a story about new Hawks lines..

72 19 14
64 15 88
38 16 81

Unknown on the rest.. Unless that info is now old. Thats per BR

Moose needs to be in at #4 C. Id like to see Schmaltz at wing to see what he has. I like Motte bumped up. The kid looks very confident out there and has great on ice awareness.

My guess is Seabs or AA
- ikeane

Maybe I am delusional but something going on with that guy who pulled out on Team Canada a week or two before the tournament. He might be hurt but sure isn't playing very well IMO.

I will beat the same dead horse but AA was the player I would have dealt this summer.
- Al

What would you have been looking for in return Al? The team can't score now 5 on 5, at least AA can help with some offence.

Dear Blackhawks Coaching Staff,
THIS JUST IN : Vladamir Tarasenko is a good hockey player and is destroying you.

It's honestly baffling to me that after last year's playoff series where he absolutely TORE us up that he can roam free and snipe us some more.
Get a FREAKING body on the guy already ....
- eyewtkas

The guy was 4th last year with 40 goals for a reason. If he were easy to stop, I'm sure more teams would gladly contain him.