The Hawks 3rd line scored 5v5, didn't they? I think we are +1 5v5..
- breadbag

You are correct, I am in error (which even points out more how over hyped the 5v5 stat is when taken by itself). It is one data point. Not the metric to end all metrics.

Panik-Toews-Kane
Panarin-Anisimov-Hossa
Motte-Kruger-Hartman
Hino-Rasmussen-Schmaltz/Ice Hog

Keith-Hammer
Kempny-Seabrook
Forsling-Campbell
TVR-Rosival
- EnzoD

Looks like TvR will be the odd man out. I've been a TvR supporter but I believe this is the right move.

Looks like TvR will be the odd man out. I've been a TvR supporter but I believe this is the right move.
- DarthKane

Brian Hedger ‏@BrianHedger 55m55 minutes ago
Van Riemsdyk working with Rozsival as fourth pairing #Blackhawks

hearing some things about Anisimov not being on the ice today. Normal maintenance type day like hossa?

ETA Hine just said he left early as a preventative measure whatever that means

Panik-Toews-Kane
Panarin-Anisimov-Hossa
Motte-Kruger-Hartman
Hino-Rasmussen-Schmaltz/Ice Hog

Keith-Hammer
Kempny-Seabrook
Forsling-Campbell
TVR-Rosival
- EnzoD

Scott Powers ‏@ByScottPowers 16m16 minutes ago
Quenneville said he is exploring using Panarin on the top line and Motte on the second line.

hearing some things about Anisimov not being on the ice today. Normal maintenance type day like hossa?
- Jason Millen

Q said he left early and that it was "preventative and will still play"

Q said he left early and that it was "preventative and will still play"
- JRoenick97

Thanks

Scott Powers ‏@ByScottPowers 16m16 minutes ago
Quenneville said he is exploring using Panarin on the top line and Motte on the second line.
- JRoenick97

Hossa is taking a maintenance day, so the lines will look different in practice.

Although, if Q makes this move the top 3 lines would be interesting.

Panarin - Toews - Panik
Motte - Anisimov - Kane
Hartman - Kruger - Hossa

Hossa is taking a maintenance day, so the lines will look different in practice.

Although, if Q makes this move the top 3 lines would be interesting.

Panarin - Toews - Panik
Motte - Anisimov - Kane
Hartman - Kruger - Hossa
- DarthKane

They do look different because Hossa is out, but he was specifically asked about splitting them up, and that was his answer.

Practice lines today were:

Panarin-Toews-Panik
Motte-Anisimov-Kane
Rasmussen-Kruger-Hartman
Hinostroza-Schmaltz-Tootoo

Hossa not practicing but will play so I assume it will be Panarin-Toews-Hossa and Panik will replace someone on line 3 or 4

Scott Powers ‏@ByScottPowers 16m16 minutes ago
Quenneville said he is exploring using Panarin on the top line and Motte on the second line.
- JRoenick97

Motte was very impressive last night and Panik on line 3 is a better fit for his skill set(mainly his hands).

Panarin and Kane need to be separated if they want more than one scoring line.

Motte was very impressive last night and Panik on line 3 is a better fit for his skill set(mainly his hands).

Panarin and Kane need to be separated if they want more than one scoring line.
- EnzoD

Agreed. They can just shut down one line and we struggle.

Did you guys see that VAN signed Jack Skille?

I didn't watch the game last night...But I thought I read somewhere that Kruger wasn't on the ice for any PP goal...Can't really blame him for the dismal PK imo

Anyone else notice the the St. Louis defensemen are starting to play the defender who has the puck one on one like a defensive tackle in football on a pass rush. They are using their hands to engage the opponent at the shoulders and then finding the puck. With our smaller forwards the bigger defensemen are utilizing their size to their advantage

I didn't watch the game last night...But I thought I read somewhere that Kruger wasn't on the ice for any PP goal...Can't really blame him for the dismal PK imo
- captainserious

I think Kruger was on the ice for the second PP goal (5 on 3).

I think Kruger was on the ice for the second PP goal (5 on 3).
- DarthKane

First goal PP goal against 5-4 was Hossa, Motte, Keith, Campbell

Next 5-3 Kruger, Keith, Seabrook

Then AA, Hossa, Seabrook, TVR

Agreed on Rasmussen needing to be in there over one of the kids. He's more polished, bigger and actually looked good in the preseason.

I'm willing to hold off on sending Schmaltz down right now, but my patience won't last much more than a couple weeks unless his play picks up.

If he does go down and the PK continues to struggle, Lundberg is the logical choice to come up. Known as a PK specialist in Sweden and seems like he'll throw his body in front of shots.

First goal PP goal against 5-4 was Hossa, Motte, Keith, Campbell

Next 5-3 Kruger, Keith, Seabrook

Then AA, Hossa, Seabrook, TVR
- breadbag

I was getting this from the NHL game summary, which I'll admit "isn't always correct".

For example, they listed Schamltz, Hinostroza, Tootoo, Kempney and TVR are on the ice for the last goal, which is completely wrong. Keith/Kane were the ones chasing back to try and save the own goal from going in.

Agreed on Rasmussen needing to be in there over one of the kids. He's more polished, bigger and actually looked good in the preseason.

I'm willing to hold off on sending Schmaltz down right now, but my patience won't last much more than a couple weeks unless his play picks up.

If he does go down and the PK continues to struggle, Lundberg is the logical choice to come up. Known as a PK specialist in Sweden and seems like he'll throw his body in front of shots.
- TyCamScore

Hino-Rasmussen-Lundberg? until Desjardans comes back and replaces Hino

The Toews line might drive possession but they don't do much with the puck in the shape of dangerous scoring chances. That to me is the missing link. The line plays a great two-way game. Maintains possession but does not really pose an as offensive threat 5 on 5.
- bhawks2241

Toews and Hossa had the highest number of scoring chances on the team and Toews had the most high danger scoring chances. The D-men had the most scoring chances with them, with Seabrook having a high danger scoring chance. I'm honestly really confused about everyone being down on the top line, especially those two. Best possession, best shot generation, and best shot suppression, best scoring chance differential... all while taking on the 'top' line for the Blues (though arguably the PAK line took the most dangerous in Tarasenko). Panarin that was as good/better at scoring chances (individual, differential).

I was getting this from the NHL game summary, which I'll admit "isn't always correct".

For example, they listed Schamltz, Hinostroza, Tootoo, Kempney and TVR are on the ice for the last goal, which is completely wrong. Keith/Kane were the ones chasing back to try and save the own goal from going in.
- breadbag

Errors like that are going to happen. Most people have no idea how tough it is to do the players on ice stat. It's not like they have a tracking device sewn on their jersey. The info is entered into the system with a mouse click on the computer screen. That requires the stats guy to put his head down and take his eyes away from the play. And the home team guy doesn't have a spotter like the visiting team guy usually does. Tough gig for any stats off ice official having to keep track with your head down 1/2 the time.

Hino-Rasmussen-Lundberg? until Desjardans comes back and replaces Hino
- EnzoD

That's what I was thinking with Tootoo pop in once and a while when they need some grit.

I think a line like this would be set up better for success vs. what Q rolled out for game #1.

You are correct, I am in error (which even points out more how over hyped the 5v5 stat is when taken by itself). It is one data point. Not the metric to end all metrics.
- -Doh-

5v5 is the most useful situation when predicting future success because the game is primarily played at 5v5. There are several stats that can be evaluated at 5v5, so it's several metrics that wrap up into something important. I'll say that the focus on 5v5 scoring is a little too stressed at times because possession is more telling and sometimes special team time can amount to enough in a single game to skew results, but otherwise, 5v5 situation is not over hyped for it's importance.

5v5 is the most useful situation when predicting future success because the game is primarily played at 5v5. There are several stats that can be evaluated at 5v5, so it's several metrics that wrap up into something important. I'll say that the focus on 5v5 scoring is a little too stressed at times because possession is more telling and sometimes special team time can amount to enough in a single game to skew results, but otherwise, 5v5 situation is not over hyped for it's importance.
- L_B_R

And its importance increases in the Playoffs, when (a) there is no 3X3 overtime (and about 25% of the games go to OT), and (b) it seems that penalties are harder to find, resulting in fewer PP/PK situations.