LOL - take that hawkeytalkman
- vabeachbear

hahaha, he got me good

So you are asking for hockey rumor insight from a team insider of a completely separate team and you are asking him for contradictory information to what the players own agent publicly stated just 8 days ago?

Bravo
- hawkeytalkman

Pretty much. I respect JJ and he may have heard something different. Exactly why I didn't ask you, but thanks for chiming in. You just love to have your stuff read don't you?

Pretty much. I respect JJ and he may have heard something different. Exactly why I didn't ask you, but thanks for chiming in. You just love to have your stuff read don't you?
- Larsson_fan

LOL, me responding to two of your posts means I love having my stuff read?

I mean, yea, feels good not talking to a wall

LOL, me responding to two of your posts means I love having my stuff read?

I mean, yea, feels good not talking to a wall
- hawkeytalkman

Fair enough...I'll wait for JJ to respond.

Should be, guy is experinced net front presence on PP and could replace Shaw.

Stood in there and took the licks the whole time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFrE78G95dM
- hawkeytalkman

Pass.

Q would never let him out if the press box anyways. He makes Kane look like a Selke candidate.

I was looking at it as the likelihood that Forsling is sitting in Hjarlmarsson's slot in the pairs and I think once he comes back that would balance it out. I think the Hawks are going to try to keep the minutes a lot more even this year. They do want to keep Keith's minutes down.
- breadbag

It's hard to tell, Forsling played with Campbell consistently in the pre-season and Q seemed to like them together, despite Campbell playing his off-side for it to happen. And Q is going to want a primary shutdown pair, which is likely to be Keith-Hjammer like it was last year. I'll be less annoyed if that is the case than I was last year because the introduction of Campbell, Kempny, and Forsling should help with transition and driving possession that was lost some with Keith in a d-primary role.

hahaha, he got me good


- hawkeytalkman

Epic

Gif

Interesting thing to note. Marko Dano didn't make the cut in Winnipeg.
- breadbag

Is it that interesting? I believe the Jets stated last year that they didn't want to force him to his off-wing and they're decently deep on the right side (at least top 9 wise). Just seems like a smart move to have him play consistently in the AHL than 4th line minutes. He'd have likely been doing the same if he was still with the Hawks - not because his potential is lower, but because guys like Wheeler, Burmistrov, Kane, Hossa, etc are above you in the depth chart. He's got some kinks to work out for sure, though.

Calgary re-signed Gaudreau - 6 years @ $6.75 AAV

Calgary re-signed Gaudreau - 6 years @ $6.75 AAV
- DarthKane

Interesting. What sort of impact would that have on a Panarin deal?

Calgary re-signed Gaudreau - 6 years @ $6.75 AAV
- DarthKane

Wonder if he still asks for that trade...

Interesting. What sort of impact would that have on a Panarin deal?
- phantasmo

Depends on when Panarin's deal is signed imo. Also to keep in mind, Panarin is older than most of these guys signing right now - he'll be eating into more of his UFA years if he goes with a similar 6 year deal. These guys are getting the Toews/Kane type of post-ELC deals instead of typical $2-3m bridge deals.

Kucherov is expected to take a lower priced, 2-3 year bridge soon.

Hawks interested in Parenteau at all?
- Assman22

They promoted him from their farm years ago and saw he was a one way guy, so I'd say no.

He never was good at being a strong back side pressure player and you don't play for Q if you aren't

Not upset about mashinter because he didn't impress me in the preseason but I'd like more physical play on the 4th line. Hinostroza should be down maybe the hawks take a flyer on peluso for the 13th forward and rotate him with tootoo.

Not upset about mashinter because he didn't impress me in the preseason but I'd like more physical play on the 4th line. Hinostroza should be down maybe the hawks take a flyer on peluso for the 13th forward and rotate him with tootoo.
- vandymeer23

The Hawks have Hartman and Tootoo on the roster - that's as much physicality as they really need. Speed is more useful for the style of hockey the Hawks play.

No shock there....My thoughts on Dano have been consistent with what I kept hearing from those who can judge talent and not listen to the hype. He is a kid that tries but is small and fundamentally flawed.

Hawks thought the same or he would have never been included in a rent a player trade.
- Al

That Dano was behind RW's Wheeler, Stafford and LW's Ehlers, Connor and Laine is no surprise. Interesting though he didn't beat out Armia and rookie Tanev.

As far as moving a roster player for a rental the Hawks did move a solid two way bottom 6 guy in Denault, a center to boot, in the Weise-Fleishmann deal.

The games I saw the Jets last year the 21 yr old skated 3rd line and didn't look too effective. His corsi was 52 with sheltered zone starts.

That Dano was behind RW's Wheeler, Stafford and LW's Ehlers, Connor and Laine is no surprise. Interesting though he didn't beat out Armia and rookie Tanev.

As far as moving a roster player for a rental the Hawks did move a solid two way bottom 6 guy in Denault, a center to boot, in the Weise-Fleishmann deal.

The games I saw the Jets last year the 21 yr old skated 3rd line and didn't look too effective. Don't think his corsi was 52 with sheltered zone starts.
- Mr Ricochet

Wonder if Stan pursues Armia

That Dano was behind RW's Wheeler, Stafford and LW's Ehlers, Connor and Laine is no surprise. Interesting though he didn't beat out Armia and rookie Tanev.

As far as moving a roster player for a rental the Hawks did move a solid two way bottom 6 guy in Denault, a center to boot, in the Weise-Fleishmann deal.

The games I saw the Jets last year the 21 yr old skated 3rd line and didn't look too effective. Don't think his corsi was 52 with sheltered zone starts.
- Mr Ricochet

Jets don't want to play him on the left, so he wasn't really battling Tanev (though Tanev is older), and Burmistrov is also above him in the depth chart on the right. Armia gets in because he's bigger and suited more for a 4th line role (which is where he'll likely slot once Stafford is better) and, most importantly, he's no longer waiver exempt. Edit to add: Copp probably deserved to be up too, but like Dano, he's waiver exempt so they can wait with him if need me.

Dano likely needs more time in the AHL anyway, but it shouldn't be surprising that older and/or more established guys were kept over him currently, esp in the position they seem to want him to play.

Wonder if Stan pursues Armia
- ikeane

Think Armia is a RW...... I think if that were to happen it would have already, but who knows.

I watched Armia a few times and he seemed heavy legged with no burst to me, even for a power forward.

Jets don't want to play him on the left, so he wasn't really battling Tanev (though Tanev is older), and Burmistrov is also above him in the depth chart on the right. Armia gets in because he's bigger and suited more for a 4th line role (which is where he'll likely slot once Stafford is better) and he's no longer waiver exempt.

Dano likely needs more time in the AHL anyway, but it shouldn't be surprising that older more established guys were kept over him in the position they seem to want him to play.
- L_B_R

I like that Burmistrov. 200 foot guy from what I've seen and plays center too. Did not realize Tanev was 23....... Off the top of my head it looks as though Winnipeg is as deep as anyone at forward, near TB depth. They are loaded with Trouba on the block.

You have a good feel for Winnipeg, LBR. Indeed Dano has flaws but is still 21 and agree top minutes in the AHL is best for him. .....

I like that Burmistrov. 200 foot guy from what I've seen and plays center too. Did not realize Tanev was 23....... Off the top of my head it looks as though Winnipeg is as deep as anyone at forward, near TB depth. They are loaded with Trouba on the block.

You have a good feel for Winnipeg, LBR. Indeed Dano has flaws but is still 21 and agree top minutes in the AHL is best for him. .....
- Mr Ricochet

Tanev is actually turning 25 in December, so he's likely got a leg up on some of the younger prospects like Dano and Copp in terms of physical maturity. He also fits in the lower lines in terms of being good defensively, which also helps. It'll be interesting to see who sits once Stafford and Matthias are back (both missed some pre-season with injuries).

I have a soft spot for the Jets because of their Thrashers connection (my family moved from Chicago to Atlanta when I was younger). Their forwards are a bit more skilled than in year past, but they'll have kinks to work out with a lot of young or new guys without quite the established core that some other teams have. They are the team in the Central to surprise, though, as long as their D and goal tending hold up.

Depends on when Panarin's deal is signed imo. Also to keep in mind, Panarin is older than most of these guys signing right now - he'll be eating into more of his UFA years if he goes with a similar 6 year deal. These guys are getting the Toews/Kane type of post-ELC deals instead of typical $2-3m bridge deals.

Kucherov is expected to take a lower priced, 2-3 year bridge soon.
- L_B_R

Ur comment on Panarin's age is key-I'm sure his agent is smiling tonight and saying he is every bit as good or bet than Johnny Hockey-Who also does not have a long resume.

But actually there isn't a Kane in Calgary or anything remotely close to it except Gaudreau. Bowman will have look stretch Panarin out to an even longer term and for not more money, if he performs as well as last year.

That Dano was behind RW's Wheeler, Stafford and LW's Ehlers, Connor and Laine is no surprise. Interesting though he didn't beat out Armia and rookie Tanev.

As far as moving a roster player for a rental the Hawks did move a solid two way bottom 6 guy in Denault, a center to boot, in the Weise-Fleishmann deal.

The games I saw the Jets last year the 21 yr old skated 3rd line and didn't look too effective. His corsi was 52 with sheltered zone starts.
- Mr Ricochet

My guess is Denault will play in many more NHL games than Dano-He's still young but if nothing changes within a year or so_Dano could end up in Europe.

Is it that interesting? I believe the Jets stated last year that they didn't want to force him to his off-wing and they're decently deep on the right side (at least top 9 wise). Just seems like a smart move to have him play consistently in the AHL than 4th line minutes. He'd have likely been doing the same if he was still with the Hawks - not because his potential is lower, but because guys like Wheeler, Burmistrov, Kane, Hossa, etc are above you in the depth chart. He's got some kinks to work out for sure, though.
- L_B_R

Yes it is interesting. Winning games is about putting your best on the ice. It could be playing him on off wing or moving someone else around in the lineup. The fact of the matter is Dano failed to win a job at the NHL level out of camp with the Jets.

People around here like to talk about over-hype of players and so far Dano has been another example until he proves otherwise. He could pan out, but it is interesting because many thought he was the answer if he was in the Hawks lineup at RW but he still again finds himself sent to play in the AHL after being traded. He either isn't ready or never will be the player some thought he might be. Time will tell, but it is interesting to note he didn't make the team.

WOW - 4-6 weeks for Desjardins. So unless a waiver pickup or deal is made - the 13 man forward roster is set. Interesting that Schmaltz gets the nod at 4C over the more experienced Rasmussen. Seems like Q is choosing speed over "predictability".
- EbonyRaptor

I believe one reporter said Moose will go down when Desi comes back up. So Schmaltz might be your 4C for good portion of year unless he really tanks.