Oooooooooooh
- eichiefs9

hahaha

Chris Nichols ‏@NicholsOnHockey 48m48 minutes ago
Dreger: #Oilers lowered asking price on Yakupov considerably leading up to the trade deadline last year. WGR

Chris Nichols ‏@NicholsOnHockey 48m48 minutes ago
Dreger/Yak: Problem has been, from #Oilers' persp, how do you trade 1st overall if you're not getting real solid return like 2nd, 3rd-rnder.

Chris Nichols ‏@NicholsOnHockey 47m47 minutes ago
Dreger/Yak: Well, they're not getting that. They couldn't get a 3rd-round draft pick. #Oilers

Chris Nichols ‏@NicholsOnHockey 47m47 minutes ago
Dreger: If Chiarelli is willing to move the player for insignificant asset, whatever that might be, then I think there'll be interest in Yak
- eichiefs9

Bailey for Yak.

Bailey for Yak.
- ses111

The isles would never trade their defensive specialist for a enigmatic Russian.

Oooooooooooh
- eichiefs9

- mdw7413

Thank you, I have been described as a stone cold fox numerous times in the past.

Thank you, I have been described as a stone cold fox numerous times in the past.
- eichiefs9

Your mom and grandma don't count.

Arthur Staple ‏@StapeNewsday 24s24 seconds ago
#Isles doing some power play work. First unit on: Ladd-Tavares-PAP-Strome-Leddy. 2nd unit on: Lee-Barzal-Beauvillier-Hamonic-Pulock.

Well Barzal is practicing with the 2nd PP unit, so maybe those line combo's don't mean all that much.

Forget about the offer......do you really think he's even first line talent?
- kindlyrick

Played well with mcdavid and while the obvious thought is well its mcdavid we have tavares so he can elevate his play as well and we know yak can comiment and elite player

Arthur Staple ‏@StapeNewsday 24s24 seconds ago
#Isles doing some power play work. First unit on: Ladd-Tavares-PAP-Strome-Leddy. 2nd unit on: Lee-Barzal-Beauvillier-Hamonic-Pulock.

Well Barzal is practicing with the 2nd PP unit, so maybe those line combo's don't mean all that much.
- eichiefs9

Just like you'll be pissed if Seidenberg takes Pulocks spot......if they phucking put another forward at the point (PA), im gonna vomit. You have a guy who's got a Shea Weber clapper, who's ready willing and able, and yet they go with a forward????

Just like you'll be pissed if Seidenberg takes Pulocks spot......if they phucking put another forward at the point (PA), im gonna vomit. You have a guy who's got a Shea Weber clapper, who's ready willing and able, and yet they go with a forward????
- kindlyrick

Pulock should be on the 1st PP.

Played well with mcdavid and while the obvious thought is well its mcdavid we have tavares so he can elevate his play as well and we know yak can comiment and elite player
- Upstate_isles

Dont mistake what im saying......im not suggesting that he would not work well with say Tavares. Im saying that given the current group.....the isles already have too many forwards. They've brought in PA to play with JT. Short of PA having a major injury.....he's playin RW with JT. Not that i love it, but thats who Snow brought in to replace KO.

Just like you'll be pissed if Seidenberg takes Pulocks spot......if they phucking put another forward at the point (PA), im gonna vomit. You have a guy who's got a Shea Weber clapper, who's ready willing and able, and yet they go with a forward????
- kindlyrick

They're probably going to put another forward at the point. A lot of teams do it so my issue isn't that they do it...it's that when it doesn't work they just continue to roll out the same thing over and over without trying to fix it.

Arthur Staple ‏@StapeNewsday 24s24 seconds ago
#Isles doing some power play work. First unit on: Ladd-Tavares-PAP-Strome-Leddy. 2nd unit on: Lee-Barzal-Beauvillier-Hamonic-Pulock.

Well Barzal is practicing with the 2nd PP unit, so maybe those line combo's don't mean all that much.
- eichiefs9

The first PP unit should be Lee (or Ladd) in front of the net, with JT on the right and Barzal on the left. Leddy and Pulock at the point.

They're probably going to put another forward at the point. A lot of teams do it so my issue isn't that they do it...it's that when it doesn't work they just continue to roll out the same thing over and over without trying to fix it.
- eichiefs9

I think teams were doing it because they were looking for "better" puck movement and offense from the backend. But, with Leddy and Pulock......you have everything you need.

The first PP unit should be Lee (or Ladd) in front of the net, with JT on the right and Barzal on the left. Leddy and Pulock at the point.
- kindlyrick

I have to agree on this unit but you dont know jack so........

I have to agree on this unit but you dont know jack so........
- Upstate_isles

The one thing that ABSOLUTELY boils my blood, is when they throw a guy on the off wing while up a man. You cant have a lefty on the right side, or conversely a righty on the left side. It completely take out the one timer, and telegraphs the play. The PK knows you cant feed a one timer to a lefty on the right side, so now they cheat.....and have an advantage. When up a man you need to have 5 options to score.

I think teams were doing it because they were looking for "better" puck movement and offense from the backend. But, with Leddy and Pulock......you have everything you need.
- kindlyrick

That's true, but you could also look at it as spreading the wealth around a bit. Personally, I agree with you. I'd rather just see Leddy and Pulock on the point on PP1, but I get what they're doing.

That said, PP2 sees little to no time ever, so it seems like a waste to put Pulock there.

That's true, but you could also look at it as spreading the wealth around a bit. Personally, I agree with you. I'd rather just see Leddy and Pulock on the point on PP1, but I get what they're doing.

That said, PP2 sees little to no time ever, so it seems like a waste to put Pulock there.
- eichiefs9

Well i mean he just wasnt effective on the power play i mean he only averaged 22 seconds thanks to captain jack

It's certainly possible. It seems as if Beauvillier has had the best camp of the four top prospects, so I don't think that it's out of the question to see him make the team over Barzal. He seems to be a much more versatile player, which may be what the team is looking for.
- eichiefs9

I'd argue the team needs offense. Another player that's versatile enough to bounce around the middle six is nice...probably even more useful for a good number of teams, but not the highest need given what the Isles already have. I think there are quite a few players who can get by in top-six roles but can be just as useful on a third and even fourth line. There aren't enough players that excel in point production.

For the Isles, Barzal should help the offense more than Beauvillier, so I'd sacrifice Beauvillier's versatility for the expected extra offense Barzal would provide. Actually, if it was up to me, I'd keep both for up to nine games. If one looks better once the real action starts, keep him and send the other down. I wouldn't hesitate to bring Ho Sang up, too, and throw him in the lineup if some of the usual suspects don't get it together offensively out of the gate.

I'd argue the team needs offense. Another player that's versatile enough to bounce around the middle six is nice...probably even more useful for a good number of teams, but not the highest need given what the Isles already have. I think there are quite a few players who can get by in top-six roles but can be just as useful on a third and even fourth line. There aren't enough players that excel in point production.

For the Isles, Barzal should help the offense more than Beauvillier, so I'd sacrifice Beauvillier's versatility for the expected extra offense Barzal would provide. Actually, if it was up to me, I'd keep both for up to nine games. If one looks better once the real action starts, keep him and send the other down. I wouldn't hesitate to bring Ho Sang up, too, and throw him in the lineup if some of the usual suspects don't get it together offensively out of the gate.
- UIF

I think (i dont even know where to look), that Beau has more pts than Barzal in the pre season.

I'd argue the team needs offense. Another player that's versatile enough to bounce around the middle six is nice...probably even more useful for a good number of teams, but not the highest need given what the Isles already have. I think there are quite a few players who can get by in top-six roles but can be just as useful on a third and even fourth line. There aren't enough players that excel in point production.

For the Isles, Barzal should help the offense more than Beauvillier, so I'd sacrifice Beauvillier's versatility for the expected extra offense Barzal would provide. Actually, if it was up to me, I'd keep both for up to nine games. If one looks better once the real action starts, keep him and send the other down. I wouldn't hesitate to bring Ho Sang up, too, and throw him in the lineup if some of the usual suspects don't get it together offensively out of the gate.
- UIF

Three rookies with zero NHL experience in the lineup would be a bit much.

I'd agree that I'd like to see them keep Barzal and Beauvillier around for 9 games and at least see what they could do. If it's not working then send one or both back to juniors and there's no real harm done.

I think (i dont even know where to look), that Beau has more pts than Barzal in the pre season.
- kindlyrick

Barzal had 5gp 1g, 3a 4pts (Ho Sang had the same stat line)
Beauvillier had 5gp 1g, 1a 2pts

I think (i dont even know where to look), that Beau has more pts than Barzal in the pre season.
- kindlyrick

But Barzal is a more offensive player -- his make-up is that of an offensive playmaker whereas Beauvillier is billed more as a jack-of-all trades. Based on the little I've seen of Barzal, I'd wager that if preseason went on for 25 games, Barzal would come out of it with not only more points, but also better point production among the players he's on the ice with.

Arthur Staple ‏@StapeNewsday 18s18 seconds ago
Mayfield cleared waivers. Headed to BPT.

Barzal had 5gp 1g, 3a 4pts (Ho Sang had the same stat line)
Beauvillier had 5gp 1g, 1a 2pts
- eichiefs9

Is that right?? I thought Beauvillier had 2 goals?