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ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 7 @ 12:38 PM ET
This team can't seem to let go of the cheap scrubs they so often needed when FA's treated this destination like it was Molokai. It goes back to the early days of Garth's tenure when Wang wouldn't spend $$$—a lie they fed to us every year by saying, "If there's a way to improve this team, we WILL DO IT!"

Bridgeport is where you get players in an emergency or to fill an injury spot on the roster. Carrying signed one-way players is not the way to do it. This team is still run with a non-traditional mindset. Can't believe that Bailey still owns a roster spot. Screw his playoff goal and OT winner in pre-season. He's invisible rest of the time. Guarantee if they sent HIM to B'port, he'd clear waivers. No downside if he doesn't.

- jmo16


Bailey should have been moved to Arizona for a 5th or 6th before they started adding salary. Kulemin also should have been moved.
jmo16
New York Islanders
Location: No Whining Allowed! This is a blog. Silly Gif's only!
Joined: 02.26.2011

Oct 7 @ 12:38 PM ET
Reinhardt for barzal and beau maybe the best move of garths tenure
- Upstate_isles



and it happened by accident and by the grace of others stupidity.
It's like saying someone is smart when winning lotto because "HTey picked good numbers."
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 7 @ 1:07 PM ET


Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Oct 7 @ 1:07 PM ET
and it happened by accident and by the grace of others stupidity.
It's like saying someone is smart when winning lotto because "HTey picked good numbers."

- jmo16

Better to be lucky than good err something
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 7 @ 1:09 PM ET
Better to be lucky than good err something
- Upstate_isles

The Islanders are either bad or lucky. Good does not exist in the Islanders' world. No credit goes to anyone, just blame.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Oct 7 @ 1:10 PM ET
It happens. Luckily, they were able to correct their error big time. Wouldn't have had Barzal OR Beauvillier without that trade.
- eichiefs9


Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Oct 7 @ 1:12 PM ET



- eichiefs9


Errr...
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 7 @ 1:15 PM ET
Errr...
- Wildschwein

Did you buy your Mcsomeone who is attracted to the opposite sex jersey yet?




Sometimes I love the hockeybuzz profanity filters
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Oct 7 @ 1:18 PM ET
Did you buy your Mcsomeone who is attracted to the opposite sex jersey yet?




Sometimes I love the hockeybuzz profanity filters

- eichiefs9



I had to hit the quote button to understand what the (frank) you were talking about.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Oct 7 @ 1:18 PM ET
Bailey should have been moved to Arizona for a 5th or 6th before they started adding salary. Kulemin also should have been moved.
- ses111


I don't know what Bailey's supposed to be at this point. If someone can tell me, I'll watch him play with that in mind.

He was originally billed as a playmaking center, but, while he flashes the occasional great pass, he doesn't do it consistently enough to be a playmaker...at center or wing.

He doesn't fight on the boards enough to be a gritty winger, even though when he does decide to throw a check, he actually can knock people off the puck.

He has a decent shot, but not a top-level shot, and he doesn't take it nearly enough to be a scorer.

They say he's some sort of defensive stalwart, but there are other players on the team who do it a lot better. My guess is his "defensive" reputation, like all the other things he's supposed to be known for, comes from the occasional really nice defensive play he might have made, but that we never see consistently enough.

So...what exactly is he? Just by raw ability, I guess he can be any of the above, but he does none of those things game-in and game-out...or even close to anything that could be called remotely consistent.

kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Oct 7 @ 1:24 PM ET
I don't know what Bailey's supposed to be at this point. If someone can tell me, I'll watch him play with that in mind.

He was originally billed as a playmaking center, but, while he flashes the occasional great pass, he doesn't do it consistently enough to be a playmaker...at center or wing.

He doesn't fight on the boards enough to be a gritty winger, even though when he does decide to throw a check, he actually can knock people off the puck.

He has a decent shot, but not a top-level shot, and he doesn't take it nearly enough to be a scorer.

They say he's some sort of defensive stalwart, but there are other players on the team who do it a lot better. My guess is his "defensive" reputation, like all the other things he's supposed to be known for, comes from the occasional really nice defensive play he might have made, but that we never see consistently enough.

So...what exactly is he? Just by raw ability, I guess he can be any of the above, but he does none of those things game-in and game-out...or even close to anything that could be called remotely consistent.

- UIF


Honestly, after this offseason, when three core guys walked, this team became different. So I dont think Bailey has a free ride anymore. The days of "he's well liked in the lockeroom", isnt gonna fly anymore. He's got young talent fighting for a spot....so if he doesnt get it done, he's gonna get the boot.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Oct 7 @ 1:24 PM ET



- eichiefs9


Where do these people get this poop from?
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Oct 7 @ 1:25 PM ET



- eichiefs9



Wtf??

Not sure if angry Oilers fan, or angry Isles fan. Could go either way
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Oct 7 @ 1:27 PM ET
Generally speaking SOME teams put a fwd on the point either due to them not having a defenseman with a decent shot OR bcs that particular fwd has a helluva one timer(Stamkos comes to mind) or slapper. Neither okposo, nielsen, pap, or even Tavares has ever fit that description. Working it down low through opposing defenseman and 2 fwds to me never will make sense when you have a player like Lee in the paint. Hence why our pp is inconsistent and mediocre at best. In fact it's painful to watch more often than not.
- Cptmjl



If Ryan Pulock is not on PP1, then i give up...
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 7 @ 1:29 PM ET
This team can't seem to let go of the cheap scrubs they so often needed when FA's treated this destination like it was Molokai. It goes back to the early days of Garth's tenure when Wang wouldn't spend $$$—a lie they fed to us every year by saying, "If there's a way to improve this team, we WILL DO IT!"

Bridgeport is where you get players in an emergency or to fill an injury spot on the roster. Carrying signed one-way players is not the way to do it. This team is still run with a non-traditional mindset. Can't believe that Bailey still owns a roster spot. Screw his playoff goal and OT winner in pre-season. He's invisible rest of the time. Guarantee if they sent HIM to B'port, he'd clear waivers. No downside if he doesn't.

- jmo16

Well In fairness with the salary cap you need some cheap preferably not scrubs.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 7 @ 1:30 PM ET
If Ryan Pulock is not on PP1, then i give up...
- kindlyrick

Get ready for it.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 7 @ 1:37 PM ET


Wtf??

Not sure if angry Oilers fan, or angry Isles fan. Could go either way

- mdw7413

I went to the Isles facebook page and sure enough a few comments down from that one was him saying that "if it wasn't for attitude issues, Ho Sang would have gone 1 or 2 that year"

ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 7 @ 1:37 PM ET
I don't know what Bailey's supposed to be at this point. If someone can tell me, I'll watch him play with that in mind.

He was originally billed as a playmaking center, but, while he flashes the occasional great pass, he doesn't do it consistently enough to be a playmaker...at center or wing.

He doesn't fight on the boards enough to be a gritty winger, even though when he does decide to throw a check, he actually can knock people off the puck.

He has a decent shot, but not a top-level shot, and he doesn't take it nearly enough to be a scorer.

They say he's some sort of defensive stalwart, but there are other players on the team who do it a lot better. My guess is his "defensive" reputation, like all the other things he's supposed to be known for, comes from the occasional really nice defensive play he might have made, but that we never see consistently enough.

So...what exactly is he? Just by raw ability, I guess he can be any of the above, but he does none of those things game-in and game-out...or even close to anything that could be called remotely consistent.

- UIF



That's the thing with Bailey he shows flashes. I do think he could benefit from a change of scenery. I would have given up a 5th round pick if I'm Arizona, but I doubt Garth would have done it. His defensive reputation is the funniest thing. How many times have we seen Bailey let guys go right past him without doing anything?
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Oct 7 @ 1:38 PM ET
I went to the Isles facebook page and sure enough a few comments down from that one was him saying that "if it wasn't for attitude issues, Ho Sang would have gone 1 or 2 that year"


- eichiefs9


I'm glad to see that it isn't just Canadians who can be over the top homers.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 7 @ 1:42 PM ET
I'm glad to see that it isn't just Canadians who can be over the top homers.
- Wildschwein



I do remember reading he had the skill to go top-10, which is probably a little more in line with reality. But 1 or 2? No way.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Oct 7 @ 1:45 PM ET
I went to the Isles facebook page and sure enough a few comments down from that one was him saying that "if it wasn't for attitude issues, Ho Sang would have gone 1 or 2 that year"


- eichiefs9


Jesus. I'm mean Ho Sang could very well turn into a very good player, but how do you even compare him to McDavid.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Oct 7 @ 1:45 PM ET


I do remember reading he had the skill to go top-10, which is probably a little more in line with reality. But 1 or 2? No way.

- eichiefs9



The bottom line is if he was that skilled whereby he was taken first or second, he would have gone right to the NHL. Forget about anything else.....if his game was that good, he wouldnt have been sent to bport. He's super talented, but how anyone would say he's on the level of Connor McDavid is bananas.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Oct 7 @ 1:57 PM ET


I do remember reading he had the skill to go top-10, which is probably a little more in line with reality. But 1 or 2? No way.

- eichiefs9


There was an article a while back that had mentioned Ho Sang and McDavid played together a long time ago, and that Ho Sang stood out. My guess is that one sentence, just there to note that Ho Sang has talent, has somehow ballooned into HO SANG IS BETTER THAN MCDAVID!!!

In fact, it was pretty easy to find the article and the excerpt:

http://www.torontosun.com...l-prospect-joshua-ho-sang

Three years ago, on a gifted Marlies GTHL team, the only difference between Ho-Sang and Connor McDavid was — Ho-Sang was the more electric player. You couldn’t take your eyes off him.


Wouldn't surprise me if the telephone game took it from there and created an army of online morons.

PeteM
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 07.10.2007

Oct 7 @ 2:30 PM ET
That's the thing with Bailey he shows flashes. I do think he could benefit from a change of scenery. I would have given up a 5th round pick if I'm Arizona, but I doubt Garth would have done it. His defensive reputation is the funniest thing. How many times have we seen Bailey let guys go right past him without doing anything?
- ses111


He got his defensive reputation the same way Okposo got his power forward label. From pre-draft projections furthered by "experts" who never actually watch them play more a handful of games.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Oct 7 @ 2:40 PM ET
He got his defensive reputation the same way Okposo got his power forward label. From pre-draft projections furthered by "experts" who never actually watch them play more a handful of games.
- PeteM



Thats actually really funny (and true).
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