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Forums :: Blog World :: Eklund: Winnipeg and Boston Talking. Trouba for Krug + picks and prospects?
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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Oct 3 @ 10:40 AM ET
Well they probably match that. 6 mil and it starts to become questionable. And it's only a second round pick more.
- prock


If trouba truly wants out, an offer sheet isa risky way to do it.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Oct 3 @ 10:42 AM ET
NO.
- glove_was_stuck


Sweeney is going all in..
IrischesGlueck
New Jersey Devils
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 08.12.2013

Oct 3 @ 10:45 AM ET
Personally, I'd look to either BUF or NJ. Shero LOVES loading up dmen and you win a trade with them. You guys don't NEED a Trouba on your team, you need stability. You're a team of the future and I would think along those lines toward continuing to build.

I'd look at NJ and try to get John Moore, a 2017 1st rounder and maybe their 1st round pick from 2016.

- Rinosaur


If Winnipeg makes it: Moore, 2017 1st (with protection for it we miss the playoffs and win the lottery), and guy with drafted with our 2014 1st round pick all for Trouba; I think we would have a deal!
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Oct 3 @ 10:47 AM ET
Doesn't a players NMC/NTC go bye-bye once they accept a trade or does it restart on the new team?
- Rinosaur



No, it's a part of the contract. They can nix any trade for the length of the contract, no matter who it's with (assuming the NTC/NMC is for the entire length of the contract).
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Oct 3 @ 10:51 AM ET
If trouba truly wants out, an offer sheet isa risky way to do it.
- Tumbleweed



Meh, he gets the salary he wants, and Winnipeg is stuck with a malcontent for one year, at which point they probably are forced to trade him.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Oct 3 @ 10:51 AM ET
If Winnipeg makes it: Moore, 2017 1st (with protection for it we miss the playoffs and win the lottery), and guy with drafted with our 2014 1st round pick all for Trouba; I think we would have a deal!
- IrischesGlueck


LOL. I don't think WPG takes that deal. Your 2014 1st isn't exactly much.

gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Oct 3 @ 10:52 AM ET
. Now I know your not playing with a full deck, cause everyone needs a Bergy.
- shoreorrpark

I know I do.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Oct 3 @ 10:52 AM ET
No, it's a part of the contract. They can nix any trade for the length of the contract, no matter who it's with (assuming the NTC/NMC is for the entire length of the contract).
- prock


Ah ok. For some reason I thought otherwise.

Either way, I don't think MAF makes sense as part of the deal.

Maatta & Fehr for Trouba makes more sense if that really makes sense at all for either side.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Oct 3 @ 10:54 AM ET
Well they probably match that. 6 mil and it starts to become questionable. And it's only a second round pick more.
- prock



not acurate, look into how the salary is broken down in an offer sheet. It is total salary dived by 5, not the length of the deal, or something like that? My point being is the compensation going back to Winnipeg would be more than what your specualting.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Oct 3 @ 10:55 AM ET
You really should keep your homoerotic fantasies out of the discussion.
- Aetherial

That eliminates 50% of the posts on Hockeybuzz.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Oct 3 @ 10:55 AM ET
Ah ok. For some reason I thought otherwise.

Either way, I don't think MAF makes sense as part of the deal.

Maatta & Fehr for Trouba makes more sense if that really makes sense at all for either side.

- Rinosaur


except the Jets cut Fehr so not sure why they would want him back, we already have plenty of competition on our bottom 6
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Oct 3 @ 10:55 AM ET
Ah ok. For some reason I thought otherwise.
- Rinosaur


Yeah I've seen others say the same thing. It's literally a clause, in a player's contract, that says they can't be traded without the players permission. When you trade for a player, the contract comes with them, in it's entirety. They're essentially taking over that contract.

I've seen people also think that a player waives his NTC, and the team can then trade them anywhere. The player has a trade proposed to them, and they can choose to excercise the clause or not. It's their choice. So they can pick and choose which trades they accept.

It gives the player a lot of power on where they play, for the entire duration of their contract.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Oct 3 @ 10:56 AM ET
not acurate, look into how the salary is broken down in an offer sheet. It is total salary dived by 5, not the length of the deal, or something like that? My point being is the compensation going back to Winnipeg would be more than what your specualting.
- Ross77



so 6 milliion at 5 years. Hell, 6 million at 6 years still falls under the 7.5 needed before it goes to more firsts.

They're still locking him up for the majority of his prime playing years, and most likely past that with extensions.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Oct 3 @ 10:58 AM ET
Yeah I've seen others say the same thing. It's literally a clause, in a player's contract, that says they can't be traded without the players permission. When you trade for a player, the contract comes with them, in it's entirety. They're essentially taking over that contract.

I've seen people also think that a player waives his NTC, and the team can then trade them anywhere. The player has a trade proposed to them, and they can choose to excercise the clause or not. It's their choice. So they can pick and choose which trades they accept.

It gives the player a lot of power on where they play, for the entire duration of their contract.

- prock


The only exception I know of is if you are traded before your ntc kicks in – the acquiring team can choose to honor the clause or not.

e.g. Nashville had the choice to honor pk subban’s trade clause or not.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Oct 3 @ 11:03 AM ET
The only exception I know of is if you are traded before your ntc kicks in – the acquiring team can choose to honor the clause or not.

e.g. Nashville had the choice to honor pk subban’s trade clause or not.

- Tumbleweed



huh? That's news to me. Have you got a source on that?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Oct 3 @ 11:08 AM ET
huh? That's news to me. Have you got a source on that?
- prock


http://www.generalfanager.com/cba

11.8 Individually Negotiated Limitations on Player Movement. (a) …. If the Player is Traded or claimed on Waivers prior to the no-Trade or no-move clause taking effect, the clause does not bind the acquiring Club. An acquiring Club may agree to continue to be bound by the no-Trade or no-move clause
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Oct 3 @ 11:10 AM ET
No, it's a part of the contract. They can nix any trade for the length of the contract, no matter who it's with (assuming the NTC/NMC is for the entire length of the contract).
- prock


NMC/NTC do not automatically transfer when a player is traded, it's up to the team aquiring the player, so usually they do not. Myers had a no move before being traded to Winnipeg, they did not carry it on when he came over
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Oct 3 @ 11:13 AM ET
so 6 milliion at 5 years. Hell, 6 million at 6 years still falls under the 7.5 needed before it goes to more firsts.

They're still locking him up for the majority of his prime playing years, and most likely past that with extensions.

- prock



and the Jets would easily match that. it's when you start doing 6.5 million for 7 or 8 years, then you get into the 4 first rounder range
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Oct 3 @ 11:28 AM ET
Sweeney is going all in..
- Tumbleweed


on your mum
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Oct 3 @ 11:31 AM ET
You got some high quality crack in Atlantipeg. Get help.
- glove_was_stuck



i did not know what crack was. After reading about it on google, it is definitely not good for you. But it appears that you must have experimented with it in the past as you have done some low quality crack? Please take care of yourself.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Oct 3 @ 11:42 AM ET
on your mum
- glove_was_stuck


she's such a whore
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Oct 3 @ 11:48 AM ET
i did not know what crack was. After reading about it on google, it is definitely not good for you. But it appears that you must have experimented with it in the past as you have done some low quality crack? Please take care of yourself.
- TheUltimateJet


glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Oct 3 @ 11:57 AM ET
she's such a whore
- Tumbleweed


glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Oct 3 @ 11:58 AM ET
i did not know what crack was. After reading about it on google, it is definitely not good for you. But it appears that you must have experimented with it in the past as you have done some low quality crack? Please take care of yourself.
- TheUltimateJet


So you're in the denial phase of your addiction. Keep at it sport.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Oct 3 @ 12:03 PM ET
on your mum
- glove_was_stuck

Sweeney/mum rumours are heating up.
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