Overpayment IMO.

I think a Gardiner/Trouba straight-up swap would be more than fair.
- Rinosaur

You could be right. The pick imo is a lower value pick more to fill in the deal and make fans feel like they got more

Our third going that way and their fourth coming back.


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Lets also be clear Trouba is a nice young player. But he doesn't have Norris written on him.

Said every team who ever had a player request a trade...
- MaximumBone

Interesting how some people don't seem to understand that.

One thing that gets lost on people is that WPG is a small market team and as such, doesn't want to start a perception around the league that if a player doesn't like being there, they can just request a trade and get out. This is a major factor in why this deal won't be rushed and why Winnipeg will either get the value they want or let Trouba sit the Year. Yes, having an asset not playing is a bad situation but even worse is the idea of players being able to dictate a way out of a small market. Wpg has to think about this with the contracts of players such as Ehlers, Laine, Connor, and Hellebuyck being in the same situation in the coming Years.
- mcjags

You are not wrong.

The flip side of that is if you treat players poorly it makes it hard to attract other new players. Players notice when a team treats a player poorly.

League source

Who's been treated poorly? He's holding out from a top 4 pairing job and last year played 22+ mins a game.

He is currently the 3rd best RHD on the blue line and is pouting.

Small market yes but we have signed players in this short history.... Kane, Bogo, Ladd, Enstrom, Little, Wheeler, Scheifele and Perrault... And we can't be that small with 2nd highest priced seats in the NHL and top 15 in Revenue with smallest building

League source


- sliprock65

What? You dont think he makes this stuff up do you?

Like Russell signing was imminent weeks ago??

Like Gaudreau was very close to being done a couple days ago??? Despite his agent saying today the two sides have not spoken since Sept 9th???


And on and on...

Who's been treated poorly? He's holding out from a top 4 pairing job and last year played 22+ mins a game.

He is currently the 3rd best RHD on the blue line and is pouting.

Small market yes but we have signed players in this short history.... Kane, Bogo, Ladd, Enstrom, Little, Wheeler, Scheifele and Perrault... And we can't be that small with 2nd highest priced seats in the NHL and top 15 in Revenue with smallest building
- jjonah

Yes I'm a leafs fan, but was excited to see you get your team back. I wasn't crapping on the team or your city. I actually think you guys should have more confidence and stop with the crazy nobody wants to play in the peg.

It was a general statement. If the a Jets don't accommodate it looks bad to other players. True in all sports

Lets also be clear Trouba is a nice young player. But he doesn't have Norris written on him.
- 50 Mission Cap

This is the main issue about overpaying. We can't say what Trouba's ceiling is just yet. Clearly he's got boatloads of talent and maybe he could be a Norris contender one day. He hasn't been given the opportunity to play in the top pairing.

But yes, you could be right, maybe he's never a Norris contender, so why overpay for him?

Personally I don't care if Trouba sits the entire year. I listened to the interview with his agent a week ago and when he was asked what trouba would do if it was getting close to december 1st and he still hadn't been traded..... Kurt said they'd deal with that then. Trouba really has very little leverage in this situation, the jets are holding the cards because they have the players who can replace him for the short term.
Jets fans don't believe that Trouba is PK or weber. The main difference right now is the teams looking for help on the right side, they're going to get a major return for a RFA trouba; signed or unsigned. Just look at what Chevy did with Evander Kane, he robbed Buffalo and dropped off 2 main pieces that had outstayed their welcome in winnipeg. Thats fine if you don't agree with me but ask yourself, what have bogo and kane done since they got to buffalo other than under perform and sit out with injuries.
If the jets get a deal of Krug and Zaboril they'd be stupid to turn that deal down. 2 lefties for an unsigned RFA; the jets win this deal short term.
Trouba hasn't had the chance to prove himself playing on the 3rd pairing, he's a great player and a team that gives him the opportunity is going to be happy that they did. the problem is that team isnt the jets now or in the future. its best they move on from him.
Chevy will be patient and I see teams overpaying to aquire Trouba's rfa rights.

Interesting how some people don't seem to understand that.
- Aetherial

so are you guys suggesting when a team has a player request a trade the GM should post a pic of him bending over with some lube and sign that says open for business?

the reason most players who request a trade, don't get traded right away is because the teams wont be taken advantage of.

it's funny how some people don't get that

This is the main issue about overpaying. We can't say what Trouba's ceiling is just yet. Clearly he's got boatloads of talent and maybe he could be a Norris contender one day. He hasn't been given the opportunity to play in the top pairing.

But yes, you could be right, maybe he's never a Norris contender, so why overpay for him?
- Rinosaur

If the world cup was any judge of where he is today he has a long long long long long way to go before Norris and trouba come any where near the same sentence. He got pulled out of his position, he chased contact, he made poor decisions on when to press, he left ghost out to try 2 on 1 repeatedly, he was soft in front his net. The Jets fans thinking they deserve the world for him are insane. Also bringing nurse and Sanheim up why would either team make that deal? Flyers have a very good defense on the rise with plenty of potentially elite d prospects. Over paying for a nhl player whose still largely potential doesn't fit with hextall values at all. Edmonton is slowly building a competitive team and have young d prospects. I would argue that nurse will eventually be a better player than trouba if he isn't already in the ballpark. I'd look at teams that are actually desperate for d. Colorado maybe ? Boston makes sense but not for Krug.

If the world cup was any judge of where he is today he has a long long long long long way to go before Norris and trouba come any where near the same sentence. He got pulled out of his position, he chased contact, he made poor decisions on when to press, he left ghost out to try 2 on 1 repeatedly, he was soft in front his net. The Jets fans thinking they deserve the world for him are insane. Also bringing nurse and Sanheim up why would either team make that deal? Flyers have a very good defense on the rise with plenty of potentially elite d prospects. Over paying for a nhl player whose still largely potential doesn't fit with hextall values at all. Edmonton is slowly building a competitive team and have young d prospects. I would argue that nurse will eventually be a better player than trouba if he isn't already in the ballpark. I'd look at teams that are actually desperate for d. Colorado maybe ? Boston makes sense but not for Krug.
- Tfaehner

Agree 100%

Colorado would be a good fit.

Dallas stars would be good. They need help on D and can trade the russian whos name i cant spell

Krug is our best D-Man... I don't think this is anything close to a legit proposal. No way they'd give up Krug, PLUS prospects, PLUS picks!?!? That's just laughable.

You can have Chara for Trouba

Krug is our best D-Man... I don't think this is anything close to a legit proposal. No way they'd give up Krug, PLUS prospects, PLUS picks!?!? That's just laughable.

You can have Chara for Trouba
- mixturebill

Seconded. Bad deal.

That trade seems counterproductive for the bruins

Agree 100%

Colorado would be a good fit.

Dallas stars would be good. They need help on D and can trade the russian whos name i cant spell
- Flexingtheshaft

No homer, but I think Maatta for Trouba is best deal they can get if somehow WPG takes some other salary back.

TO PIT: Trouba and a 3rd
TO WPG: Maatta, Fehr and a 2nd

That trade seems counterproductive for the bruins
- highstick87

Pretty much

To BOS: Jacob Trouba, Andrew Copp, 2017 6th Round Pick

To WPG: Torey Krug, Jakub Zboril, David Pastrnak, 2017 1st Round Pick


Get it done Chevy! I believe in you....

No homer, but I think Maatta for Trouba is best deal they can get if somehow WPG takes some other salary back.

TO PIT: Trouba and a 3rd
TO WPG: Maatta, Fehr and a 2nd
- Rinosaur

Only trade I see working with Pittsburgh is:

To PITT: Jacob Trouba, Ondrej Pavelec

To WPG: Olli Maata, Marc Andre Fleury

To BOS: Jacob Trouba, Andrew Copp, 2017 6th Round Pick

To WPG: Torey Krug, Jakub Zboril, David Pastrnak, 2017 1st Round Pick


Get it done Chevy! I believe in you....
- TheUltimateJet

Oh that's definitely fair /sarcasm

Back. Got whacked with the banhammer thanks to HB77. That man is a train wreck for all of us...

To BOS: Jacob Trouba, Andrew Copp, 2017 6th Round Pick

To WPG: Torey Krug, Jakub Zboril, David Pastrnak, 2017 1st Round Pick


Get it done Chevy! I believe in you....
- TheUltimateJet

I can't believe I'm gonna use these words but, that's totally retarded.
You can't be serious, are you? Maybe we can toss in Bergy for Stafford as well.

That's fair. I just think WPG shouldn't be so myopic in what they're looking for.

Yeah, Trouba for Krug makes sense on paper, but it doesn't really make sense for Boston.

Trouba for Maatta would make sense on paper, but it doesn't make sense for PIT because of money.

Trouba for Hanifin could make sense on paper, but does CAR really need to do that?

I'm throwing out arbitrary names, but you get my point. I think WPG needs to widen their scope.

Personally, I'd look to either BUF or NJ. Shero LOVES loading up dmen and you win a trade with them. You guys don't NEED a Trouba on your team, you need stability. You're a team of the future and I would think along those lines toward continuing to build.

I'd look at NJ and try to get John Moore, a 2017 1st rounder and maybe their 1st round pick from 2016.

I'd look at BUF and try and get Ennis and McCabe in return.

Again, part of what I'm suggesting is arbitrary, but I just think WPG needs to keep their minds open.
- Rinosaur

There is no way Carolina trades trouba for hanifin. No way. That makes no sense for them even on paper.

Back. Got whacked with the banhammer thanks to HB77. That man is a train wreck for all of us...
- Flamin_Irishmin

You got whacked with the ban hammer because you're a moron.

You got whacked with the ban hammer because you're a moron.
- Iggysbff

Uh oh. I'm not so sure this falls within the coc.