Offensively the Flyers really only lack a top 6 winger. They have an abundance of bottom 6 guys. I wasnt very keen on the Gordon signing (Im still not), but it seems as though his spot is pretty safe because he wins faceoffs.

If I were in charge I would probably go with this:

Schenn-G-Voracek
TK-Couts-Simmer
Laughton-Cousins-Raffl/Read
Raffl/Read-Bellemare-Weiss
- jak521

I'd have the same top 12 though with different line combos

I would trade Bellemare or try to trade Read before discussing moving Laughton. Nothing against Bellemare, but I like Laughts age and potential still. And after Bellemare's impressive tourney for team Euro he may be easy to move. Just a thought and a preference over trading Laughton.
- arichardson22

There is no reason to trade Laughton. He can be moved to the AHL

Yes, but only if you have a good amount of skill in your top-6. If we can get the offensive equivalent of Malkin and Kunitz on our second line, then you can spread the wealth around a bit. I don't think we have that luxury.
- jmatchett383

So we can't add skill unless we're already skilled? Not being a wise ass but not following the logic. I think there's room for Konecny in the middle 6...drop out Laughton/Read

get better sources
- YuenglingJagr

nah your mom is good.

From whose end? The Flyers, Dallas, or the KHL?
- jmatchett383

why would dallas do it? seems ot have higher upside to me.

nah your mom is good.
- rinaldo

There is no reason to trade Laughton. He can be moved to the AHL
- YuenglingJagr

yes there is

There is no reason to trade Laughton. He can be moved to the AHL
- YuenglingJagr

I have no desire or interest in trading Laughton, was just adding to conversation of Konecny's spot to take is Laughton's and that I rather trade another player before even discussing trading Laughton. I think some forget he's still only 22

So we can't add skill unless we're already skilled? Not being a wise ass but not following the logic. I think there's room for Konecny in the middle 6...drop out Laughton/Read
- Just5

Pittsburgh was able to roll 3, almost 4, scoring lines. They had/have an abundance of skill in the top-6 which allowed them to put Kessel and Hagelin on their 3rd line. Konecny will likely work best if he's playing with other offensively-skilled players. We don't have enough skilled players to spread across 3 lines which will likely diminish his effectiveness at 5v5 if he's playing on the 3rd line. I have no problem with spreading the wealth, assuming you have enough wealth to spread. To me, right now, the Flyers don't.

why would dallas do it? seems ot have higher upside to me.
- rinaldo

Probably something about him not being in the NHL for the next 2 years. If they think they can contend (assuming they can fix their goaltending situation), they might like a player they can use those next 2 seasons while the Flyers could be patient and hope he returns to the NHL when they are closer to competing.

I'm not in favor of trading Laughton, but if he's likely to be taken in the expansion draft, then I'd rather get some value for him.

Probably something about him not being in the NHL for the next 2 years. If they think they can contend (assuming they can fix their goaltending situation), they might like a player they can use those next 2 seasons while the Flyers could be patient and hope he returns to the NHL when they are closer to competing.
- jmatchett383

ok, what makes you think they can use laughton? does he help them in any way?

imo Laughton doesn't have as much value. if that trade was there I do it in a heartbeat.

I have no desire or interest in trading Laughton, was just adding to conversation of Konecny's spot to take is Laughton's and that I rather trade another player before even discussing trading Laughton. I think some forget he's still only 22
- arichardson22

I understand, I am just saying even if Konecny takes Laughton's spot, it doesn't mean Laughton gets traded

Pittsburgh was able to roll 3, almost 4, scoring lines. They had/have an abundance of skill in the top-6 which allowed them to put Kessel and Hagelin on their 3rd line. Konecny will likely work best if he's playing with other offensively-skilled players. We don't have enough skilled players to spread across 3 lines which will likely diminish his effectiveness at 5v5 if he's playing on the 3rd line. I have no problem with spreading the wealth, assuming you have enough wealth to spread. To me, right now, the Flyers don't.
- jmatchett383

I disagree, but my argument also rests on if Matt Read's scoring ability can be resurrected.

ok, what makes you think they can use laughton? does he help them in any way?

imo Laughton doesn't have as much value. if that trade was there I do it in a heartbeat.
- rinaldo

They'd probably prefer a 22-year-old player who will be in the NHL for the next 2 years (and, presumably, after) as opposed to a player who will be in the KHL for 2 years and who may or may not come back afterwards. Their team isn't exactly old, but it's not young, either, so their window is probably closer than the Flyers' is.

ok, what makes you think they can use laughton? does he help them in any way?

imo Laughton doesn't have as much value. if that trade was there I do it in a heartbeat.
- rinaldo

Laughton for Nichuskin?

Nah, ill pass for sure.

Laughton for Nichuskin?

Nah, ill pass for sure.
- jak521

I wouldn't, either, because you're basically just trading for his rights in hopes that you can sign him 2 years from now. But in general, a player who had a lot of hype who hasn't panned out so far. A great example, were we not life enemies, would possibly be Derrick Pouliot, as the Penguins aren't thrilled with how he's progressing, despite Ryan Wilson's hard-on for him.

has anyone ever seen Konecny play the left side at even strength

has anyone ever seen Konecny play the left side?
- YuenglingJagr

most likely, yes.

Is natural winger really a thing?
- YuenglingJagr

I think it is.

Schenn didn't really flourish at wing right away. He has become a solid winger.

Some guys just don't adapt well sometimes.

I hope he does take well to it. But if he doesn't, like everyone has said, the flyers have an abundance on guys that are bottom 6 types. Right now the hope is Laughton becomes a consistent winger which would help the bottom 6 offensively. If not than there are others close.

I wouldn't, either, because you're basically just trading for his rights in hopes that you can sign him 2 years from now. But in general, a player who had a lot of hype who hasn't panned out so far. A great example, were we not life enemies, would possibly be Derrick Pouliot, as the Penguins aren't thrilled with how he's progressing, despite Ryan Wilson's hard-on for him.
- jmatchett383

And the question was what type of value.

Nichushkin I think is a good example.

I see Tobias Rieder asked for a trade would that be a solid value? What's Mantha's value in Detroit. Seems they have been waiting on him.

I think there are plenty of teams where you could make a sold swap.

Again I hope he takes to wing because it can only help the team.

I'd have the same top 12 though with different line combos
- PhillySportsGuy

post them

post them
- Crimsoninja

*waits*

Raffl-Giroux-Simmonds
Schenn-Couturier-Voracek
Laughton-Cousins-Konecny
Read-PEB-Weise

Extras: Gordon, Russian guy

If the Russian guy could kill penalties, I would potentially play him over PEB and use Read as a C.

If Laughton doesn't perform well, I have no problem moving Weise up to the 3rd line. I'd just like to give him first shot because he has much more offensive potential.

Raffl-Giroux-Simmonds
Schenn-Couturier-Voracek
Laughton-Cousins-Konecny
Read-PEB-Weise

Extras: Gordon, Russian guy
- PhillySportsGuy

WOW!

Raffl-Giroux-Simmonds
Schenn-Couturier-Voracek
Laughton-Cousins-Konecny
Read-PEB-Weise

Extras: Gordon, Russian guy
- PhillySportsGuy

But we're giving Laughton away for peanuts because he sucks and has no value.