Putting that aside for a minute, Greiss is only making $1.5M...I don't really see any value in moving him. His play last year + the fact that moving him doesn't really equate to any savings means he's probably going to stick. I'm fine with the 3-headed goalie-monster again, it's not like it was a problem (in the standings) last season.
- eichiefs9

To me the 3 headed monster is unnecessary. We are the only team in the league that has this. IT is not good for the goalies themselves cause you will have one goalie just sitting there not playing much. Goalies need to play to stay fresh, and if Berube is just sitting there then it does nothing for his development at all. It will hurt him more then help him.

Plus Halak has already spoke about is displeasure in carrying three goalies and I dont blame him for that

Why are most eager to move Nelson? I'd move Strome before Nelson......
- Ur Not Me

agreed

Why are most eager to move Nelson? I'd move Strome before Nelson......
- Ur Not Me

Nobody is eager, it's because Staple has mentioned a few times that the Islanders might explore trading Nelson before the expansion draft.

To me the 3 headed monster is unnecessary. We are the only team in the league that has this. IT is not good for the goalies themselves cause you will have one goalie just sitting there not playing much. Goalies need to play to stay fresh, and if Berube is just sitting there then it does nothing for his development at all. It will hurt him more then help him.

Plus Halak has already spoke about is displeasure in carrying three goalies and I dont blame him for that
- kasperrko

No goalie would like that three goalie rotation.......but with Halaks injury history, i think its kind of necessary.

if you keep a third goalie you can't keep 3 extra skaters. Unless snow decides to hide extra players on IR again this year to skirt the waiver rules, Berube's going down to the ahl through waivers. If Pulock and Barzal both make the roster there simply isn't room for everyone and I'd rather lose Berube than Mayfield.
- Isles_since_6

Truthfully, I'd rather keep Berube over Mayfield. I don't value Mayfield very highly and the right side of the defense is pretty much all set with 3, 55, and 6. Additionally, Seidenberg can play both sides. I don't want to lose any asset for nothing, but if you put a gun to my head I would rather keep Berube over Mayfield. Honestly, I'm not even sure that Mayfield would get claimed if he was put on waivers.

To me the 3 headed monster is unnecessary. We are the only team in the league that has this. IT is not good for the goalies themselves cause you will have one goalie just sitting there not playing much. Goalies need to play to stay fresh, and if Berube is just sitting there then it does nothing for his development at all. It will hurt him more then help him.

Plus Halak has already spoke about is displeasure in carrying three goalies and I dont blame him for that
- kasperrko

I don't think anyone refutes all that, but the alternative is putting Berube on waivers to send him to the AHL and he'll almost certainly get scooped up.

Nobody is eager, it's because Staple has mentioned a few times that the Islanders might explore trading Nelson before the expansion draft.
- eichiefs9

Guess most follow his lead/words.....

No goalie would like that three goalie rotation.......but with Halaks injury history, i think its kind of necessary.
- kindlyrick

greiss is kept as the backup to halak and if needed will step up. Keeping a 3rd goalie just in case is a waste of a roster spot that will be needed during the year and will result in us losing mayfield if they keep berube up. It's not even a consideration for me, berube didn't show anything last year that made me think he was a capable nhl goaltender, he was okay, but nothing special. I have no issues with sending him to the ahl, if they lose him, they lose him. If halak gets hurt, greiss takes over and gibson can back up and play once a month.

Truthfully, I'd rather keep Berube over Mayfield. I don't value Mayfield very highly and the right side of the defense is pretty much all set with 3, 55, and 6. Additionally, Seidenberg can play both sides. I don't want to lose any asset for nothing, but if you put a gun to my head I would rather keep Berube over Mayfield. Honestly, I'm not even sure that Mayfield would get claimed if he was put on waivers.
- eichiefs9

I feel the same way about berube. I'm not impressed and don't see him as a key piece of the team at all. I don't think he'd be claimed but if he was I wouldn't miss him.

Why are most eager to move Nelson? I'd move Strome before Nelson......
- Ur Not Me

Mostly because I think he has more value than Strome. That's all. I could be wrong, but, who knows what will happen.

greiss is kept as the backup to halak and if needed will step up. Keeping a 3rd goalie just in case is a waste of a roster spot that will be needed during the year and will result in us losing mayfield if they keep berube up. It's not even a consideration for me, berube didn't show anything last year that made me think he was a capable nhl goaltender, he was okay, but nothing special. I have no issues with sending him to the ahl, if they lose him, they lose him. If halak gets hurt, greiss takes over and gibson can back up and play once a month.
- Isles_since_6

I hear you, but I dont think the isles wanna lose Berube for whatever reason. I didnt think he was any great shakes, but they like him. If Mayfield get sent down, he'd 100% get scooped........for phuck sakes the Jets signed Brian Strait. Mayfield is a lot better than an "8th dman". He shoulda be on the team last season over Strait or Zidlicky. For his size alone, someone would take a flyer on him...

greiss is kept as the backup to halak and if needed will step up. Keeping a 3rd goalie just in case is a waste of a roster spot that will be needed during the year and will result in us losing mayfield if they keep berube up. It's not even a consideration for me, berube didn't show anything last year that made me think he was a capable nhl goaltender, he was okay, but nothing special. I have no issues with sending him to the ahl, if they lose him, they lose him. If halak gets hurt, greiss takes over and gibson can back up and play once a month.
- Isles_since_6

Pretty sure there are more people trying to move goalies than available landing spots for them. If it comes down to it and Halak goes down with an injury, it won't be hard to find someone capable to come in and back up Greiss in exchange for like a 5th round pick or whatever. I agree with you, it's not even a question for me if it comes down to Berube vs anyone else wrt waivers.

No goalie would like that three goalie rotation.......but with Halaks injury history, i think its kind of necessary.
- kindlyrick

Halak's history is concerning but his best years are always every other year, so if history repeats itself, this is his year again, lets not forget his 1st year here......

I feel the same way about berube. I'm not impressed and don't see him as a key piece of the team at all. I don't think he'd be claimed but if he was I wouldn't miss him.
- Isles_since_6

I thought Berube played really well in limited action last year, especially for not seeing much time in goal.

I think a team like Dallas would grab him off the wire in millisecond.

Halak's history is concerning but his best years are always every other year, so if history repeats itself, this is his year again, lets not forget his 1st year here......
- Ur Not Me

He's looked pretty damn good at WC's. I just read this morning in Newsday i think, that after the stacked canadian roster, the US sh!tting the bed.....Halak has been the next big topic. If he's healthy he's absolutely the best goaltender the isles have. He's battle tested in the playoffs, and this isles team can go deep. You want him healthy for the run...

Pretty sure there are more people trying to move goalies than available landing spots for them. If it comes down to it and Halak goes down with an injury, it won't be hard to find someone capable to come in and back up Greiss in exchange for like a 5th round pick or whatever. I agree with you, it's not even a question for me if it comes down to Berube vs anyone else wrt waivers.
- UIF

There are, but most of the goalies trying to be moved are super-expensive. If Halak gets hurt, Bishop or MAF aren't fitting under our cap, even with a pro-rated cap hit.

There are, but most of the goalies trying to be moved are super-expensive. If Halak gets hurt, Bishop or MAF aren't fitting under our cap, even with a pro-rated cap hit.
- eichiefs9

I think lesser viable options are/will be available.... Those are just names known that maybe the team wants to move bc of circumstances.......

I thought Berube played really well in limited action last year, especially for not seeing much time in goal.

I think a team like Dallas would grab him off the wire in millisecond.
- eichiefs9

He was average (below average stats although small sample size). I never thought while watching him that I was watching a future starter. I don't know that mayfield ever develops into an everyday NHL defenseman, but I think it's more likely that someone takes a big right shooting defenseman than a goalie on waivers. I don't see berube as someone we need going forward. Just my opinion.

No goalie would like that three goalie rotation.......but with Halaks injury history, i think its kind of necessary.
- kindlyrick

True but still I think that this is going to hurt them more than anything else. I really dont trust Berube as I was not that impressed with him last year in the games he played. To me Halak still has to be your number one with Greiss number two. If Jackie is going to play all three it will mean essentially Halak is really not the number one goalie as they would all be playing pretty much the same. Its the only way to keep all of them fresh and to be honest that is not fair to anyone can cause some problems. To me Halak has proved he is healthy Greiss has proved he can fill in if he gets injured but Berube has proved nothing and these type of guys are a dime a dozen

He was average (below average stats although small sample size). I never thought while watching him that I was watching a future starter. I don't know that mayfield ever develops into an everyday NHL defenseman, but I think it's more likely that someone takes a big right shooting defenseman than a goalie on waivers. I don't see berube as someone we need going forward. Just my opinion.
- Isles_since_6

I think because we dont see a lot of Mayfield, we tend to get caught up in the 7th or 8th dman category. He can play man......for a big guy, he's got hands, and i never thought his skating was horrific. I know a lot on here think he's slow, but for his size he's not. I think he'd be in the lineup on most teams (excluding the super deep defensive teams).

Nobody is eager, it's because Staple has mentioned a few times that the Islanders might explore trading Nelson before the expansion draft.
- eichiefs9

I would not just give Nelson away, but would move him in a package for a needed player. I have concerns with Nelson's 2nd half drop-offs and his being a non factor in the playoffs. I know Strome had a lousy season, but I think Strome has more upside as a player.

True but still I think that this is going to hurt them more than anything else. I really dont trust Berube as I was not that impressed with him last year in the games he played. To me Halak still has to be your number one with Greiss number two. If Jackie is going to play all three it will mean essentially Halak is really not the number one goalie as they would all be playing pretty much the same. Its the only way to keep all of them fresh and to be honest that is not fair to anyone can cause some problems. To me Halak has proved he is healthy Greiss has proved he can fill in if he gets injured but Berube has proved nothing and these type of guys are a dime a dozen
- kasperrko

They're really high on Berube. He looked good last year, i'll give him that. The pre season game was just a pre season game so I cant really judge, but he did look rusty. The three goalie rotation is def not a good thing, as everyone has expressed how much they dont like it, cause lets face it, they all want the job. But for the isles purposes, it makes sense.

He was average (below average stats although small sample size). I never thought while watching him that I was watching a future starter. I don't know that mayfield ever develops into an everyday NHL defenseman, but I think it's more likely that someone takes a big right shooting defenseman than a goalie on waivers. I don't see berube as someone we need going forward. Just my opinion.
- Isles_since_6

Yeah it's a fair point of view and I'm not saying I think Berube is a future all-star or anything. Just that all things considered, we have a really deep defensive corps and I personally find Mayfield to be more expendable going forward.

There are, but most of the goalies trying to be moved are super-expensive. If Halak gets hurt, Bishop or MAF aren't fitting under our cap, even with a pro-rated cap hit.
- eichiefs9

No, but that sets the market for everyone below them, too. If Bishop can be had for less than what he's worth, then you can get a capable backup looking for some work or a goalie in a similar situation Berube was in -- ready to make the jump but stuck in a logjam -- for less than Scott Mayfield (which is potentially what we'd lose to keep Berube).

I think because we dont see a lot of Mayfield, we tend to get caught up in the 7th or 8th dman category. He can play man......for a big guy, he's got hands, and i never thought his skating was horrific. I know a lot on here think he's slow, but for his size he's not. I think he'd be in the lineup on most teams (excluding the super deep defensive teams).
- kindlyrick

I don't think he's slow, I think he gets caught flat footed at times which is why I don't think he's nhl ready for a full time job, but as an injury replacement on the third pairing for a game here or there I think he'd be fine.