A couple things to catch up:

I would trade the 1st for Trouba...not much more and definitely not Nylander at all. The Leafs could only hope to get a D man as good in the draft but would have to wait 3 years for development time.

That being said our D line up would look a hell of a lot better like this:

Rielly, Trouba
Gardiner, Zaitsev
Marincin, Carrick
Hunwick, Polak


And last, good blog Lucas. Didn't hear Babcock talk about Martin and Bozak makes me rethink my line up:

JVR, Kadri, Brown
Komarov, Matthews, Nylander
Martin, Bozak, Marner
Michalek, Laich, Holland

....when we lose Michalek at the TDD bring in Sosh or Hyman.

Those forwards with that D...


- underhill14

My only problem with the forward lines is I feel Marner is getting set up to fail pretty good with Bozak and Martin

Not for the price, it will be one of those bad contracts after a couple of years.
- LeafMan

I think you underestimate Burns a little.

He's a solid player and doesn't take that many risks/is reliable enough in his own zone considering what he brings you offensively (which is basically the production of another forward).

Then again, I don't see him play as much as other players so you could very well be right... I'm mostly basing this on what I've seen last playoffs and in the World Cup.

https://t.co/m8u50yXTRn

Depends on what data you value. Obviously he's not perfect, but the fact that the puck ends up out of our zone and down in the other more than it does with anybody else on the ice shows that he's doing something right.
- lumlums

I look beyond just the stats, like the blatant giveways, bonehead passes, bad positioning, terrible pinches, things that are not measured by subjective stats.

I was right about Phaneuf and I will be proven right about Gardiner, IMO. I will hold off thinking Matthews is the next Kopitarsakic until we get a bigger sample size.
- LeafMan

You know some around here have claimed that if Matthews turns into Kopitar they will be disappointed?

Depends on what data you value. Obviously he's not perfect, but the fact that the puck ends up out of our zone and down in the other more than it does with anybody else on the ice shows that he's doing something right.
- lumlums

The Tanner corruption spreads....

https://t.co/m8u50yXTRn
- burn

"See, Matthews can't even hit the net"

- Lou

I look beyond just the stats, like the blatant giveways, bonehead passes, bad positioning, terrible pinches, things that are not measured by subjective stats.
- LeafMan

Who do you think is any good ?

https://t.co/m8u50yXTRn
- burn

Phaneuf tries every night but can't seem to do it himself

You know some around here have claimed that if Matthews turns into Kopitar they will be disappointed?
- Scabeh

I'd be OK with Modano

I look beyond just the stats, like the blatant giveways, bonehead passes, bad positioning, terrible pinches, things that are not measured by subjective stats.
- LeafMan

You can do that?

Phaneuf tries every night but can't seem to do it himself
- TheMussel

Hit the net or break the glass....?

You know some around here have claimed that if Matthews turns into Kopitar they will be disappointed?
- Scabeh

It's what I'm saying, do not overhype the guy, wait and see. I will be cautiously optimistic ™.

You can do that?
- BetterCallSaul

Jarkko..

Hit the net or break the glass....?
- bixll

Break the glass

Everybody including him knows he's not gonna hit the net

You can do that?
- BetterCallSaul

In today's NHL watching, it's a rarity.

I look beyond just the stats, like the blatant giveways, bonehead passes, bad positioning, terrible pinches, things that are not measured by subjective stats.
- LeafMan

Stats are not subjective, they are accurate depictions of events that can be measured. Interpretations can be wrong, or incomplete, but the stats are what they are.

And even if those pinches/passes/bad positioning that you describe lead to events that directly harm the Leafs (i.e. shots/goals against), his results are still overwhelmingly positive.

Break the glass

Everybody including him knows he's not gonna hit the net
- TheMussel

That's why his team mates stand in front of the net.. So, they won't get hit by a letter high clapper.

Who do you think is any good ?
- bixll

He's a huge liability against good players, he's lost defensively, he's a player, in my opinion, that stats don't tell the complete story, it's actually a falsehood.

I'm going to keep my expectations fairly low, I'm not going to overhype the guy.
- LeafMan

Said no Leaf fan ever [/img]

Stats are not subjective, they are accurate depictions of events that can be measured. Interpretations can be wrong, or incomplete, but the stats are what they are.

And even if those pinches/passes/bad positioning that you describe lead to events that directly harm the Leafs (i.e. shots/goals against), his results are still overwhelmingly positive.
- lumlums

I think he means the interpretation of stats is what's subjective.

Eg. Team A had a much higher shot attempt differential than Team B. Therefore Team A played a better game, or even Team A possessed the puck more than Team B.

He's a huge liability against good players, he's lost defensively, he's a player, in my opinion, that stats don't tell the complete story, it's actually a falsehood.
- LeafMan

That did not answer my question at all....

That's why his team mates stand in front of the net.. So, they won't get hit by a letter high clapper.
- bixll

Jarkko..
- bixll

Yes, Bix? How are you today?

Yes, Bix? How are you today?
- BetterCallSaul

All good. Drinking some Matthews Koolaid. Ya know.