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JR interview
http://www.101sports.com/...-who-should-not-be-named/
Go to about the 2:45 mark of the clip - Jason Millen
Two quick things:
1) Excellent point on Twitter about. Using Sobotka as an expansion draft exposed player! Best plan I've read on this guy.
2) How can anyone in their right mind listen to Bernie on the radio? I turned it off as soon as I heard the bit about the KHL retroactive contract amendment.
Thanks for this! Hopefully, we don't have to hear another word about this guy until he's drafted by the Las Vegas Knights who say Ni |
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Two quick things:
1) Excellent point on Twitter about. Using Sobotka as an expansion draft exposed player! Best plan I've read on this guy.
2) How can anyone in their right mind listen to Bernie on the radio? I turned it off as soon as I heard the bit about the KHL retroactive contract amendment.
Thanks for this! Hopefully, we don't have to hear another word about this guy until he's drafted by the Las Vegas Knights who say Ni - eggsegan
You think we would protect him?
Is he even eligible for the expansion draft?
Guess they might take him to get to the cap floor
OVerpyaing for fourth line guys |
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Two quick things:
1) Excellent point on Twitter about. Using Sobotka as an expansion draft exposed player! Best plan I've read on this guy.
2) How can anyone in their right mind listen to Bernie on the radio? I turned it off as soon as I heard the bit about the KHL retroactive contract amendment.
Thanks for this! Hopefully, we don't have to hear another word about this guy until he's drafted by the Las Vegas Knights who say Ni - eggsegan
I can no longer stand to listen to Bernie. He has some good guests at times and good contacts around the country, but he just yells incessantly to non-existent fans with perceived outlandish opinions.
I also can't stand to read what he writes any longer either. Since he's left the PD, he's not limited to column space so he rambles uncontrollably.
i switch over to my XM feed and continue listening to Mike and Mike when i'm in the car. |
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Jason Millen
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BenFred at the STLPD has it all wrong. Other than JR, the STL hockey bloggers are disappointing imho.
He seems to imply that Army could just turn his back on Sobotka and ignore the possibility of him coming back. He's bound by the arbitration award and can't spend that cap money until he knows for sure Sobotka's contract will be tolled again.
Army was in a lose, lose situation and did what he needed and should have done.
He didn't get overly excited and completely sales puff him coming back to protect against him not coming back. He also didn't downplay him coming back which would have impacted Sobotka should he have come back. He had to play the middle for the most part, assuming he was coming back. He had to do this whether he believe it or not as it was the only prudent thing to do as GM.
ETA - I should have included Tom Timmerman with JR. Oversight on my part. |
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Jason Millen
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For the good of all
Blues have 13 forwards on 1 way contracts (technically 12 but call fabrri a 1 way since he will be in the nhl)
Blues have 7 forwards on 1 way contracts (technically 6 but call parayko as 1 way since he will be in the nhl)
Blues have 2 goals on 1 way contracts
Sum of the aforementioned contracts is over 69 million. This would leave around 4 million in cap space.
If you add Sobotka to the mix, your roster is full (23 spots) and you have around 1.3 million in cap space.
If they would have signed a 2.7mm player and Sobotka came back, you likely lose MPS in order to keep at 23 contracts. If this had happened, the Blues would have been 700k over the cap.
This is why Armstrong couldn't spend those Sobotka dollars until he knew for sure what was going to happen.
This doesn't account for Rattie which might make things slightly worse. |
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sycsam
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For the good of all
Blues have 13 forwards on 1 way contracts (technically 12 but call fabrri a 1 way since he will be in the nhl)
Blues have 7 forwards on 1 way contracts (technically 6 but call parayko as 1 way since he will be in the nhl)
Blues have 2 goals on 1 way contracts
Sum of the aforementioned contracts is over 69 million. This would leave around 4 million in cap space.
If you add Sobotka to the mix, your roster is full (23 spots) and you have around 1.3 million in cap space.
If they would have signed a 2.7mm player and Sobotka came back, you likely lose MPS in order to keep at 23 contracts. If this had happened, the Blues would have been 700k over the cap.
This is why Armstrong couldn't spend those Sobotka dollars until he knew for sure what was going to happen.
This doesn't account for Rattie which might make things slightly worse. - Jason Millen
So you are saying the Roster is pretty set baring a trade and the Tryouts likely have zero chance of sticking with the big club
which we all kind of assumed anyway
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For the good of all
Blues have 13 forwards on 1 way contracts (technically 12 but call fabrri a 1 way since he will be in the nhl)
Blues have 7 forwards on 1 way contracts (technically 6 but call parayko as 1 way since he will be in the nhl)
Blues have 2 goals on 1 way contracts
Sum of the aforementioned contracts is over 69 million. This would leave around 4 million in cap space.
If you add Sobotka to the mix, your roster is full (23 spots) and you have around 1.3 million in cap space.
If they would have signed a 2.7mm player and Sobotka came back, you likely lose MPS in order to keep at 23 contracts. If this had happened, the Blues would have been 700k over the cap.
This is why Armstrong couldn't spend those Sobotka dollars until he knew for sure what was going to happen.
This doesn't account for Rattie which might make things slightly worse. - Jason Millen
I completely agree with this.
I Just read that article. Do you you think if you are going to talk on a subject with implied |
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BluemanGuruu
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Check put the graph at the bottom of the article regarding top NHL duos of forwards. |
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Jason Millen
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Check put the graph at the bottom of the article regarding top NHL duos of forwards. - BluemanGuruu
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Jason Millen
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I completely agree with this.
I Just read that article. Do you you think if you are going to talk on a subject with implied - BluemanGuruu
The thing JR brought up? Nope. The guy I used for a KHL source pretty much nailed it on twitter or at least what i surmise happened....
Aivis Kalniņš @A_Kalnins 13h13 hours ago
Sobotka couldnt get out of his deal because the buyout window was closed and won't open until December. There was no tampering with his deal
It's very possible Sobotka's camp was trying to get the Blues to pay for part of the buyout and to accept Omsk to accept less and both weren't willing to do so. It's also possible Sobotka's agent dropped the ball. If he gets fired soon, draw your own conclusions there.
Is it possible Sobotka's camp wasn't forthcoming to Armstrong? You bet. Might have thought it makes paying part of sobotka's buyout the best option left in their minds. |
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So you are saying the Roster is pretty set baring a trade and the Tryouts likely have zero chance of sticking with the big club
which we all kind of assumed anyway - sycsam
I bet you see 1 or 2 - chris butler type deals (2 way) - Maybe Galliardi, Nystrom and/or Weber. |
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The thing JR brought up? Nope. The guy I used for a KHL source pretty much nailed it on twitter or at least what i surmise happened....
Aivis Kalniņš @A_Kalnins 13h13 hours ago
Sobotka couldnt get out of his deal because the buyout window was closed and won't open until December. There was no tampering with his deal
It's very possible Sobotka's camp was trying to get the Blues to pay for part of the buyout and to accept Omsk to accept less and both weren't willing to do so. It's also possible Sobotka's agent dropped the ball. If he gets fired soon, draw your own conclusions there.
Is it possible Sobotka's camp wasn't forthcoming to Armstrong? You bet. Might have thought it makes paying part of sobotka's buyout the best option left in their minds. - Jason Millen
That is what I thught. I thought his window in the summer was much earlier.
Btw watching the World Cup for some reason.
My lord, Canadian refs are such homers.
I mean it is a joke.
Crosby could get a penalty almost every shift.
The little I watched from the last few minutes of the second on to the third the refs have been giving Canada the benefit of the doubt and calling Europe more often than not.
Amazing crapfest this tournament.
Anyone wonder, if we pretend the people of team USA had any brains, why this young team was made this year? I mean how many Americans made up that team?
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I bet you see 1 or 2 - chris butler type deals (2 way) - Maybe Galliardi, Nystrom and/or Weber. - Jason Millen
I think there is a possible place for one guy if he keeps playing well. |
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You think we would protect him?
Is he even eligible for the expansion draft?
Guess they might take him to get to the cap floor
OVerpyaing for fourth line guys - sycsam
Blues won't protect him.
Not sure why he wouldn't be eligible.
Sobotka would be valuable for his ability to play up in the line up on an expansion team.
Just look at the Lightning's expansion year roster.
http://www.hockey-referen...e.com/teams/TBL/1993.html |
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sycsam
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Going to the game in Chicago tomorrow night so hope to see some of the top guys |
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I am seeing all these articles about how great Canada is at hockey because of the world crap. Please. That was a flushable turd USA sent. The set up of the tournament benefitted them the most. So no. Hell the tournament was set up to be Canada vs USA and make no mistake about that.
It was gimmick. Whoever heard of an international tournament where the home country is reffed by their fellow countrymen and thenreplay judges are the same? |
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I am seeing all these articles about how great Canada is at hockey because of the world crap. Please. That was a flushable turd USA sent. The set up of the tournament benefitted them the most. So no. Hell the tournament was set up to be Canada vs USA and make no mistake about that.
It was gimmick. Whoever heard of an international tournament where the home country is reffed by their fellow countrymen and thenreplay judges are the same? - BluemanGuruu
Strickland hinted that there were problems in the room beyond Tortorella. Knowing that guys like Kessler, Backes, and Abdelkader are definitely not the most well liked guys around the league, it's not surprising. |
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Strickland hinted that there were problems in the room beyond Tortorella. Knowing that guys like Kessler, Backes, and Abdelkader are definitely not the most well liked guys around the league, it's not surprising. - fattyboubatty
I would guess a lot of the good players looked around the room and said sh€£. Jack Johnson???? What is this 2004? |
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So Schwartz is out at least 4 weeks and possibly further, What happened with Fabbri, was he injured also?I understand waiting a little bit of time to let swelling go down and really take a look at the injury but to wait 4 weeks seems a bit long to me. If he needs surgery shouldn't they be able to tell in a week or so?
Next year Schwartz wears a jersey that means no contact during camp. Tired of him getting hurt and missing regular season time |
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Perron looks worse than I remember.....
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Perron looks worse than I remember.....
- carcus
Maybe because he no longer has the veneer of "potential"?
In some ways, I wonder what his career would've looked like if he would've been allowed to develop more. If I recall, he was late to start hockey (didn't play until highschool?)
It says something when you can't figure out how to play with great players like Crosby, Malkin, and Getzlaf... |
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Maybe because he no longer has the veneer of "potential"?
In some ways, I wonder what his career would've looked like if he would've been allowed to develop more. If I recall, he was late to start hockey (didn't play until highschool?)
It says something when you can't figure out how to play with great players like Crosby, Malkin, and Getzlaf... - eggsegan
Exactly, yet The Blues sign him again, thought we were done with him. Playing with some of the best point producers and his numbers went down???????????? sorry I could put up better numbers playing with Malkin |
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got back from Virginia, 10-12 hour drive, that place is great from the little i saw, after the season me and my brother are heading to the west coast. Camping was GREAT. I might have caught a black bear in a picture while my brother was driving, kind of hard to tell |
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