That is why Trouba's camp will not sign an offer sheet. If the Jet's are only going to get a first and and a third, they'll match. Now if Boston offers up and it's 4 first rounders, then I think they'll sign.
- JETSWIN

If he gets a 7 year, $5.5M offer, why wouldn't he sign? It's not far off what he wanted, and what the Jets didn't want to pay. He gets his way. Even $6M is a 1st, 2nd, 3rd. It takes $9.5M to get four first rounders. To get past the compensation category of a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, it took $7.5M last year. He's not getting that.

If he gets an offer in line with what he wants, he'll certainly sign it, and the Jets are forced to take either compensation that is not very good, or pay a salary they don't want to. Explain why he wouldn't do that?

I thought Gary Lawless really exposed the agent and Trouba camp yesterday in the interview held with the agent.

Trouba's actions say to me if I were a GM:

1. I want to be given the top spot and not have to earn it.
2. I'm not willing to try and prove my coach wrong by playing so well, that he has no choice but to play me as a number 1 d-man.
3. It's my team mate's fault that my stats are what they are.
4. I'm not good enough to bump my competitor team mates from their spot on the team.
5. I'm not good enough of a player to play my opposite side. Therefore I lack versatility.
6. I am not willing to be a solid team member and respect my role on the team.
7. I'm all about me.

I thought Gary Lawless really exposed the agent and Trouba camp yesterday in the interview held with the agent.

Trouba's actions say to me if I were a GM:

1. I want to be given the top spot and not have to earn it.
2. I'm not willing to try and prove my coach wrong by playing so well, that he has no choice but to play me as a number 1 d-man.
3. It's my team mate's fault that my stats are what they are.
4. I'm not good enough to bump my competitor team mates from their spot on the team.
5. I'm not good enough of a player to play my opposite side. Therefore I lack versatility.
6. I am not willing to be a solid team member and respect my role on the team.
7. I'm all about me.
- justsaying

I think you hit all the points spot on!

If he gets a 7 year, $5.5M offer, why wouldn't he sign? It's not far off what he wanted, and what the Jets didn't want to pay. He gets his way. Even $6M is a 1st, 2nd, 3rd. It takes $9.5M to get four first rounders. To get past the compensation category of a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, it took $7.5M last year. He's not getting that.

If he gets an offer in line with what he wants, he'll certainly sign it, and the Jets are forced to take either compensation that is not very good, or pay a salary they don't want to. Explain why he wouldn't do that?
- prock

How do you know the jets don't want to pay trouba 5.5m? They never been able to offer him a contract. They have never discussed money and term, it been simply rade me.

The jets have said all along that if any team gives trouba an offer sheet, they'll match. What they dud say is that they never thought a team would offer a deal that would cost 4 firsts.

Trouba's camp doesn't sign an offer sheet, unless it's so rediculous, because it will be matched and trouba can't be traded for a year after that.

How do you know the jets don't want to pay trouba 5.5m? They never been able to offer him a contract. They have never discussed money and term, it been simply rade me.

The jets have said all along that if any team gives trouba an offer sheet, they'll match. What they dud say is that they never thought a team would offer a deal that would cost 4 firsts.

Trouba's camp doesn't sign an offer sheet, unless it's so rediculous, because it will be matched and trouba can't be traded for a year after that.
- JETSWIN

Aren't his rumoured salary demands $6M?

If he simply won't talk contract with them, he blatantly will not play there anymore, and they really shouldn't even want to keep him.

Aren't his rumoured salary demands $6M?

If he simply won't talk contract with them, he blatantly will not play there anymore, and they really shouldn't even want to keep him.
- prock

The rumour was 7m reported by the Winnipeg Free Press. There is a lot of truth with what you have to say. At the same time, you can't afford to trade away an asset and get a minimal return, which is what a first and 3rd would be.

Players ask all the time for trades, and we don't even know about it. In my opinion, he's getting dime bad advice. He could sign a bridge deal for comparble market value, play well and wait for an opprtunity to present itself in the market place.

Forcing a team's hand looks bad on the player and agent, and puts the team's gm in a surly mood. I can honestly see Chevy make trouba sit an entire year. Jets get off to a good start, trouba should be nervous.

The rumour was 7m reported by the Winnipeg Free Press. There is a lot of truth with what you have to say. At the same time, you can't afford to trade away an asset and get a minimal return, which is what a first and 3rd would be.

Players ask all the time for trades, and we don't even know about it. In my opinion, he's getting dime bad advice. He could sign a bridge deal for comparble market value, play well and wait for an opprtunity to present itself in the market place.

Forcing a team's hand looks bad on the player and agent, and puts the team's gm in a surly mood. I can honestly see Chevy make trouba sit an entire year. Jets get off to a good start, trouba should be nervous.
- JETSWIN

Great point! I say let Trouba rot.

The rumour was 7m reported by the Winnipeg Free Press. There is a lot of truth with what you have to say. At the same time, you can't afford to trade away an asset and get a minimal return, which is what a first and 3rd would be.

Players ask all the time for trades, and we don't even know about it. In my opinion, he's getting dime bad advice. He could sign a bridge deal for comparble market value, play well and wait for an opprtunity to present itself in the market place.

Forcing a team's hand looks bad on the player and agent, and puts the team's gm in a surly mood. I can honestly see Chevy make trouba sit an entire year. Jets get off to a good start, trouba should be nervous.
- JETSWIN

$7M is a first, second, and third.

You say players ask for trades all the time, and you don't know about it. How do you know he didn't ask a year ago? And is only now pushing it.

If the Jets are off to a good start, the pressure is on them to get use out of their asset, to do as well as they can. Neither side wins with him sitting on the sidelines.

I think you're missing the point that your GM has lost the ability to have any say in what salary Trouba gets at this point, and can't really "just sit him and let him rot". If he tries to "sit and let him rot", Trouba goes and signs his biggest offer. Are the Jets going to match and let a $6M salary sit on the sidelines? Of course not. The minute Trouba decides he doesn't want to sit and rot, he simply signs the biggest offer he's presented with.

Your GM doesn't hold all the cards here, at all. He holds very little, actually. This isn't the same as Drouin, who was under contract still.

If he gets a 7 year, $5.5M offer, why wouldn't he sign? It's not far off what he wanted, and what the Jets didn't want to pay. He gets his way. Even $6M is a 1st, 2nd, 3rd. It takes $9.5M to get four first rounders. To get past the compensation category of a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, it took $7.5M last year. He's not getting that.

If he gets an offer in line with what he wants, he'll certainly sign it, and the Jets are forced to take either compensation that is not very good, or pay a salary they don't want to. Explain why he wouldn't do that?
- prock

Because he said he wanted to be the guy. If Winnipeg matches (which is always better than a package of lesser value picks, see Weber offer sheet) then Trouba won't be the guy there and cannot be moved at all for one year.

Also a 7 year deal at $5.5M works out to $7.7M on the compensation chart (total money divided by years of contract to a max of 5).

$7M is a first, second, and third.

You say players ask for trades all the time, and you don't know about it. How do you know he didn't ask a year ago? And is only now pushing it.

If the Jets are off to a good start, the pressure is on them to get use out of their asset, to do as well as they can. Neither side wins with him sitting on the sidelines.

I think you're missing the point that your GM has lost the ability to have any say in what salary Trouba gets at this point, and can't really "just sit him and let him rot". If he tries to "sit and let him rot", Trouba goes and signs his biggest offer. Are the Jets going to match and let a $6M salary sit on the sidelines? Of course not. The minute Trouba decides he doesn't want to sit and rot, he simply signs the biggest offer he's presented with.

Your GM doesn't hold all the cards here, at all. He holds very little, actually. This isn't the same as Drouin, who was under contract still.
- prock

No offence but you missed the point. By letting him rot you force his hand and sign with you or sign an offer sheet and then get matched and in either case Trouba plays for Winnipeg which is what the Jets want.

While this sucks for everyone the Jets do have all the power here as Trouba doesn't want to play there but has no real options to leave.

$7M is a first, second, and third.

You say players ask for trades all the time, and you don't know about it. How do you know he didn't ask a year ago? And is only now pushing it.

If the Jets are off to a good start, the pressure is on them to get use out of their asset, to do as well as they can. Neither side wins with him sitting on the sidelines.

I think you're missing the point that your GM has lost the ability to have any say in what salary Trouba gets at this point, and can't really "just sit him and let him rot". If he tries to "sit and let him rot", Trouba goes and signs his biggest offer. Are the Jets going to match and let a $6M salary sit on the sidelines? Of course not. The minute Trouba decides he doesn't want to sit and rot, he simply signs the biggest offer he's presented with.



Your GM doesn't hold all the cards here, at all. He holds very little, actually. This isn't the same as Drouin, who was under contract still.
- prock

So, the compensation for an offer sheet is to divide the dollar amount by the number of years or by 5, which ever is lower. No one is going to offer just a four year deal, cause he goes straight to Ufa status. Teams will most likely offer 7 years and 7 m per year, using the 5 years divider because it's lower is 9.8 and that means 4 first round picks and in the neighbourhood of what Boston was thinking of doing. Jets don't match that...5@ 7, I think they still do.

Just so you know, jets hold all the power. All of it. Trouba is an rfa with no arbitration rights. If trouba doesn't sign by dec.1 he can't play for the year and his Ufa status just went from 26 to 27.

If jets decide to wait it out, and they could. Trouba will have no recourse. None. If an offer sheet was going to be offered, btw, it would have happened already. Teams gave already made their salary commitments, and most don't have an extra 7 million kicking around.

Make no mistake, the jets hold all the cards and Chevy will hold out for this price.

I thought Gary Lawless really exposed the agent and Trouba camp yesterday in the interview held with the agent.

Trouba's actions say to me if I were a GM:

1. I want to be given the top spot and not have to earn it.
2. I'm not willing to try and prove my coach wrong by playing so well, that he has no choice but to play me as a number 1 d-man.
3. It's my team mate's fault that my stats are what they are.
4. I'm not good enough to bump my competitor team mates from their spot on the team.
5. I'm not good enough of a player to play my opposite side. Therefore I lack versatility.
6. I am not willing to be a solid team member and respect my role on the team.
7. I'm all about me.
- justsaying

While this makes a lot of sense on a lot of levels on the other side there is nothing wrong with wanting to play the position you always played or wanting a bigger role to truly maximize your potential and ensure you earn the maximum salary in your career.

If Winnipeg demanded Trouba play on the 3rd line RW his demand to leave would never have made you think of those 7 points yet demanding him to play on the 2LD or 3RD instead of 1RD/2RD and everyone thinks Trouba is whining.

So, the compensation for an offer sheet is to divide the dollar amount by the number of years or by 5, which ever is lower. No one is going to offer just a four year deal, cause he goes straight to Ufa status. Teams will most likely offer 7 years and 7 m per year, using the 5 years divider because it's lower is 9.8 and that means 4 first round picks and in the neighbourhood of what Boston was thinking of doing. Jets don't match that...5@ 7, I think they still do.

Just so you know, jets hold all the power. All of it. Trouba is an rfa with no arbitration rights. If trouba doesn't sign by dec.1 he can't play for the year and his Ufa status just went from 26 to 27.

If jets decide to wait it out, and they could. Trouba will have no recourse. None. If an offer sheet was going to be offered, btw, it would have happened already. Teams gave already made their salary commitments, and most don't have an extra 7 million kicking around.

Make no mistake, the jets hold all the cards and Chevy will hold out for this price.
- JETSWIN

This in every way.

Toronto probably adds a 2017 2nd rounder as well.
- laughs2907

lets not exaggerate, the leafs don't give a 2nd unless its conditional on them winning the cup before 2060...

you really want the cast off piece from one of the worst deals Toronto ever made? kid will be lucky to be a bottom six forward... let alone a topper in a deal for Trouba... Marner, Nylander are the only additions worth adding toGardiner to make this even discuss-able.
- ChrisMS

Crack ?

While this makes a lot of sense on a lot of levels on the other side there is nothing wrong with wanting to play the position you always played or wanting a bigger role to truly maximize your potential and ensure you earn the maximum salary in your career.

If Winnipeg demanded Trouba play on the 3rd line RW his demand to leave would never have made you think of those 7 points yet demanding him to play on the 2LD or 3RD instead of 1RD/2RD and everyone thinks Trouba is whining.
- Steven_Dean

You are joking right! Trouba had the 36th most minutes played by a defenseman last year. Most of it on the right side. He played the most minutes for any player his age or younger playing defense.

The guy has been offered an opportunity to play with the Jets number 1 Defenseman in Byfuglien. The greatest defenseman of all time Bobby Orr played the right side with a left handed shot.

Trouba is nothing more than a self-entitled brat! I say let him rot and normally I am not with Chevy, but on this one I am!

You are joking right! Trouba had the 36th most minutes played by a defenseman last year. Most of it on the right side. He played the most minutes for any player his age or younger playing defense.

The guy has been offered an opportunity to play with the Jets number 1 Defenseman in Byfuglien. The greatest defenseman of all time Bobby Orr played the right side with a left handed shot.

Trouba is nothing more than a self-entitled brat! I say let him rot and normally I am not with Chevy, but on this one I am!
- TheUltimateJet

You are joking right! Trouba had the 36th most minutes played by a defenseman last year. Most of it on the right side. He played the most minutes for any player his age or younger playing defense.

The guy has been offered an opportunity to play with the Jets number 1 Defenseman in Byfuglien. The greatest defenseman of all time Bobby Orr played the right side with a left handed shot.

Trouba is nothing more than a self-entitled brat! I say let him rot and normally I am not with Chevy, but on this one I am!
- TheUltimateJet

Team Canada will win the world cup with 4 RHD's . St.Louis has Pieterangelo, Shattenkirk, and Parayko.
Coffey and Huddy
Robinson and Savard
Orr and Dallas Smith

You are joking right! Trouba had the 36th most minutes played by a defenseman last year. Most of it on the right side. He played the most minutes for any player his age or younger playing defense.

The guy has been offered an opportunity to play with the Jets number 1 Defenseman in Byfuglien. The greatest defenseman of all time Bobby Orr played the right side with a left handed shot.

Trouba is nothing more than a self-entitled brat! I say let him rot and normally I am not with Chevy, but on this one I am!
- TheUltimateJet

56th... Still good though.

While this makes a lot of sense on a lot of levels on the other side there is nothing wrong with wanting to play the position you always played or wanting a bigger role to truly maximize your potential and ensure you earn the maximum salary in your career.

If Winnipeg demanded Trouba play on the 3rd line RW his demand to leave would never have made you think of those 7 points yet demanding him to play on the 2LD or 3RD instead of 1RD/2RD and everyone thinks Trouba is whining.
- Steven_Dean

But he is being offered a number one pairing. Just on his off side. At any time Buff or Myers could get hurt.

But he is being offered a number one pairing. Just on his off side. At any time Buff or Myers could get hurt.
- justsaying

Maybe the guy just wants out of Winnipeg. Maybe he doesn't like it there.

Maybe the guy just wants out of Winnipeg. Maybe he doesn't like it there.
- prock

Considering that Trouba's agent confirmed they have not had contract discussions since the season ended....I would say that is an accurate point. I don't think that Trouba wants to play for a Canadian market in general.

Rumour has it that Trouba wants to launch an app where he would turn himself into a product and market Trouba skates, sticks, sweaters, etc.... He does not think he would successfully be able to market himself in a Canadian market.

Considering that Trouba's agent confirmed they have not had contract discussions since the season ended....I would say that is an accurate point. I don't think that Trouba wants to play for a Canadian market in general.

Rumour has it that Trouba wants to launch an app where he would turn himself into a product and market Trouba skates, sticks, sweaters, etc.... He does not think he would successfully be able to market himself in a Canadian market.
- TheUltimateJet

As ridiculous as it sounds, that's his prerogative. If he flat out doesn't want to play for Winnipeg, you might as well trade him. As much as Jets fans may get pissy about that, they're not the first to deal with professional athletes avoiding playing in small market, especially Canadian, teams.

As ridiculous as it sounds, that's his prerogative. If he flat out doesn't want to play for Winnipeg, you might as well trade him. As much as Jets fans may get pissy about that, they're not the first to deal with professional athletes avoiding playing in small market, especially Canadian, teams.
- prock

Seriously. Who the hell chooses to live in Winnipeg when they can live in Florida instead?

Seriously. Who the hell chooses to live in Winnipeg when they can live in Florida instead?
- BINGO!

When considering the Parallel Universe theory, the answer would be an infinite number of people.